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Default FS: Sony ICF-6800W AM/FM/SW Radio exc. cond! (Orange Version)

On Apr 12, 4:01*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Apr 12, 10:11*am, Drifter wrote:





On 4/12/2010 11:05 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:


On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:38:47 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen
wrote:


On Apr 11, 8:32 pm, wrote:
On Apr 11, 10:31 pm, wrote:


That is one sharp looking radio, if it receives as well as it looks -
I would wonder why someone would sell it.


I think the short answer is, He's not a Radio Buff - or else he has
too many or needs the money. My big question is, Is the price tag
(which somebody will probably pay) for actual performance or just for
cachet? It's real pretty, and it's a SONY, but is it as good as other
$400 radios?


Bruce


I think you've hit the real issue. Sony has always made some
interesting, if not particularly grand, radios. Performance is good in
their class, but there are usually better radios in those classes. What
Sony is good at is selling the cachet. Lots of eye appeal, large feature
set, decent audio,...some much better than others..., even the Sony
name, but in the end you have to look at the class the radio performs in.


You can get much better performance...sensitivity, selectivity, overload
immunity, noise floor, or even audio performance...in other radios, for
the same money. Not as flashy. Not as recognizable, but solid
performers, for the same money you'd spend on the veneer of Sony.


There are those here who've lauded and magnified the name of Grundig to
the high peaks of Olympus by their experience with Sat 800. "The Finest
Shortwave Radio in the World."


Ahem. Yes, well....


Put them in front of an R75 and, first, they'll question it's lineage..
Some who've lauded Grundig have never worked a radio out of the consumer
portatop class. They don't have an antenna capable of getting the most
out of R75. So, they don't see the intrinsic value of a radio in the R75
class. And for them, R75 has nowhere near the cachet of a Grundig. Or a
Sony. So, what they buy is the cachet. And in that mindset, not knowing
what better performance in a radio can be, 6800 Orange is a pinnacle
receiver. While you, yourself, work your R75, with better results and
greater satisfaction, based in a broader understanding of the fundaments
of radio.


Or to frame it differently, you define acceptable performance and select
a receiver that meets your needs, regardless of the veneer, while they
buy a receiver from a brand they know, with the veneer they like, and
let the manufacturer define acceptable performance.


Someone will definitely pay the $400 for the radio. But the
knowledgeable ones will spend that same money on a better, or higher
performance, receiver.


Peter hit it right on the money. it's a nice receiver, fair performer.
it's a classic, and very collectible. i have an "orange", in my
collection. i wouldn't want to even try to DX with it. but it is a
keeper. if i remember right, Mike, the radio expert, or what ever
he calls himself now, had 4 of these. vary nice to look at. some one
will snap that up at that price, and show it off at the office, den,
whatever. i hope he sells it fast, if i think about it too much,
i'll want it.


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You could have mine. *For the price, I'd rather get an HQ-145, HQ-180
or Collins. *Big, ugly, and superb radios.

Bruce- Hide quoted text -

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Yep Bruce, I have the 140X - haven't had it aligned recently - I'm
sure I'll add a freq to it though. I never used the 145 but I did test
drive the 180 for four days. I don't know, even though I have read the
reviews and specs it just seemed (at least to me) that I could get
more out of the 129X.shrug Maybe because I've had years behind her
controls. {?}
 
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