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Wexford wrote:
On Apr 24, 1:02 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
Anyone waving a placard or voicing dissent against the Obama
administration dare not protest too loudly. President Bill Clinton has
reignited the incendiary rhetoric of April 19, 1995.


Hahahahahaha! You people are a helluva hoot. Clinton incendiary???
When you have Limbaugh, Coulter, Savage, Morris, Hannity, O'Reilley,
Beck -- the whole bloody menagerie is YOURS!!! Stop it! Yer killin'
me! Hahahahahaha! Moron.

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Do you think that a President that ordered the mass murder of children
in Waco, Texas isn't incendiary? It was incendiary for Timothy McVeigh,
was it not? You think a Coulter or a Hannity would illicit the same
response that Clinton caused by his actions on that fateful day.

Bill Clinton has yet to be tried for that crime, and history will show
that America failed itself in those dark days.
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On 4/24/2010 4:54 PM, Cicero Venatio wrote:

Bill Clinton has yet to be tried for that crime [Waco], and history will show
that America failed itself in those dark days.


Maybe they will try Clinton for that as soon as they try
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz for lying us into two fake wars. History
will show that Bush et al failed America in those dark days.

I understand your feelings for the scores killed at Waco. Now if only
you could work up some sympathy for the *thousands* of American troops
and *tens of thousands* of civilians maimed and killed by W's folly.

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Maybe they will try Clinton for that as soon as they try
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz for lying us into two fake wars. History
will show that Bush et al failed America in those dark days.

I understand your feelings for the scores killed at Waco. Now if only
you could work up some sympathy for the *thousands* of American troops
and *tens of thousands* of civilians maimed and killed by W's folly.

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Bush fought for oil, Clinton executed the Davidians simply because they
absolutely refused to kneel before him.
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Maybe they will try Clinton for that as soon as they try
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz for lying us into two fake wars.
History will show that Bush et al failed America in those dark days.

I understand your feelings for the scores killed at Waco. Now if only
you could work up some sympathy for the *thousands* of American troops
and *tens of thousands* of civilians maimed and killed by W's folly.


On 4/24/2010 6:51 PM, Cicero Venatio wrote:

Bush fought for oil, Clinton executed the Davidians simply because they
absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Bush fought for oil??? You may be right, that -may- have been the real
reason, but as far as I know, that was NEVER publicly admitted to by the
Bush administration -- essentially the American public was lied into two
phony wars (that we are STILL paying the price for).

Anyway, even if Bush did do it "for oil", are you implying that Bush
gets a free pass to kill thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of
innocent civilians just because it was "for oil"? Does oil justify that?

...absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Well, I'm not sure about that. It may have had more to do with the
Davidians having illegal weapons. The fire appeared to be
accidental/unintentional. I don't think the ATF or Bill Clinton overtly
planned on having a fire. The government probably would have been
perfectly happy if the Davidians honored the ATF legal search warrant.

Finally, let's be pragmatic...

Yes, the 86 bogus Waco deaths were sad, even though accidental and not
specifically planned.

However, Bush DID overtly plan the two bogus wars.

86 accidental deaths versus tens of thousands of deaths that we the
people were lied into. So, you tell me, who is the bigger criminal,
Clinton or Bush?

If you think Clinton should be tried for those 86 deaths, well, fair
enough. But then I'm contending that Bush should be tried for the tens
of thousands of deaths he lied us into.



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Bush fought for oil, Clinton executed the Davidians simply because they
absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Bush fought for oil??? You may be right, that -may- have been the real
reason, but as far as I know, that was NEVER publicly admitted to by the
Bush administration -- essentially the American public was lied into two
phony wars (that we are STILL paying the price for).

Anyway, even if Bush did do it "for oil", are you implying that Bush
gets a free pass to kill thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of
innocent civilians just because it was "for oil"? Does oil justify that?

...absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Well, I'm not sure about that. It may have had more to do with the
Davidians having illegal weapons. The fire appeared to be
accidental/unintentional. I don't think the ATF or Bill Clinton overtly
planned on having a fire. The government probably would have been
perfectly happy if the Davidians honored the ATF legal search warrant.

Finally, let's be pragmatic...

Yes, the 86 bogus Waco deaths were sad, even though accidental and not
specifically planned.

However, Bush DID overtly plan the two bogus wars.

86 accidental deaths versus tens of thousands of deaths that we the
people were lied into. So, you tell me, who is the bigger criminal,
Clinton or Bush?

If you think Clinton should be tried for those 86 deaths, well, fair
enough. But then I'm contending that Bush should be tried for the tens
of thousands of deaths he lied us into.

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Men have been warring over scarce natural resources, ever since the
caveman learned how to use a club. Sounds like you're trying to reverse
50,000 years of history. Bush fought for oil, so you can cart your lazy
ass in a 2000 pound metal box to the liquor store on a Saturday night.
Maybe if you learned to ride a bicycle, or walk, Bush wouldn't have had
to fight for your slacker ass. Clinton's crime had nothing to do with
acquiring scare resources for a slacker populace, but it had everything
to do with tyranny, and that's what is criminal.
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The democraps and libturds,,, they are Anti-America!
cuhulin

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Cicero Venatio wrote:

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Men have been warring over scarce natural resources, ever since the
caveman learned how to use a club. Sounds like you're trying to reverse
50,000 years of history.


Don't lump the last 8,000 failed years in with the rest of human history.

Civilization? My ass!
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Joe from Kokomo wrote:


Bush fought for oil??? You may be right, that -may- have been the real
reason, but as far as I know, that was NEVER publicly admitted to by the
Bush administration -- essentially the American public was lied into two
phony wars (that we are STILL paying the price for).


Everything since the Great Depression has been about oil.
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"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message
...

Maybe they will try Clinton for that as soon as they try
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz for lying us into two fake wars.
History will show that Bush et al failed America in those dark days.

I understand your feelings for the scores killed at Waco. Now if only
you could work up some sympathy for the *thousands* of American troops
and *tens of thousands* of civilians maimed and killed by W's folly.


On 4/24/2010 6:51 PM, Cicero Venatio wrote:

Bush fought for oil, Clinton executed the Davidians simply because they
absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Bush fought for oil??? You may be right, that -may- have been the real
reason, but as far as I know, that was NEVER publicly admitted to by the
Bush administration -- essentially the American public was lied into two
phony wars (that we are STILL paying the price for).

Anyway, even if Bush did do it "for oil", are you implying that Bush gets
a free pass to kill thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of
innocent civilians just because it was "for oil"? Does oil justify that?

...absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Well, I'm not sure about that. It may have had more to do with the
Davidians having illegal weapons. The fire appeared to be
accidental/unintentional. I don't think the ATF or Bill Clinton overtly
planned on having a fire. The government probably would have been
perfectly happy if the Davidians honored the ATF legal search warrant.

Finally, let's be pragmatic...

Yes, the 86 bogus Waco deaths were sad, even though accidental and not
specifically planned.

However, Bush DID overtly plan the two bogus wars.

86 accidental deaths versus tens of thousands of deaths that we the people
were lied into. So, you tell me, who is the bigger criminal, Clinton or
Bush?

If you think Clinton should be tried for those 86 deaths, well, fair
enough. But then I'm contending that Bush should be tried for the tens of
thousands of deaths he lied us into.


Good post.




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