On 5/19/2010 3:23 PM, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On May 19, 7:51 am, Drifter wrote:
On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:





Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.
It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.
Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.
away from the house.
OK - here is the question. With the GE and even the 398 I suppose. I
ran a length of 12 gauge to my AD DX Sloper with a alligator clip and
ran it back to the GE. My thinking was that I could couple that to
both of my radios that way, which I did with the GE already- along
with having my loop out there. Will this work? I noticed a big
difference out there, but I was only out there for maybe 45 minutes
and it was around 5pm - so I don't know if the radio came alive just
because I was away from everything or because I hooked up to the
antenna. Any comments would be appreciated.
Antenna overload will be your enemy. Figure a way to couple the energy
to the receivers without swamping the front-ends.
Gregg. I have to go with Dave on this. the 398 has a lose front-end, and
almost any bit of wire over 20 ft. will give you trouble. i would
say the less hash is your big winner. that sloper is a real keeper, but
I would try your set-up on a few desk tops. I believe you will see a
bigger difference, from the house out there. it's like going from a
random long wire, to a good loop. you really don't receive more, you
just "hear" more. a lot of those low signals have always been there,
but now they kind of jump out at you. sounds like a cool set up. is
your barn dry? if you keep your receivers there, ya gotta watch the
humidity. and don't forget the winter cold, ya don't want to kill
a good receiver. have fun.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have used my DX-398 (Radiolabs mods) with my Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
and a 60-foot wire outside, with lots of MW blowtorches nearby (like 2
- 50 kW stations within 2 miles on salt flats and another 5 miles away
or so, plus several others not far), and on SW anyway, it is no worse
than any other radio. They all get some level of images below 3.5
MHz, bit nothing serious above. If I got even ten miles away from
this crummy place, most of that would cease too.

The 398, for real signals, leaps ahead dramatically with an external
wire or active antenna. The built-in whip is too weak - because, as I
understand it, Sangean places a resistor either in series with the
darn thing, or across to the ground, either of which is a dumb idea
and both of which are bypassed by the external antenna socket(s) :-/

Bruce
Is that the Sangean ATS909? It has a real front end.

Dave, i believe he has the super 398. I'm not sure what all the mods
are from radiolabs. but, Bruce is not the first person to state this.
i guess they do something on the front end of this port. if it behaves
on the DX-ultra, it's doing great. i have one here in a tight inverted
V , and it works super.

Drifter...

On May 19, 3:38*pm, Drifter wrote:
On 5/19/2010 3:23 PM, dave wrote:





bpnjensen wrote:
On May 19, 7:51 am, Drifter wrote:
On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.
It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.
Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.

On May 19, 3:38*pm, Drifter wrote:
On 5/19/2010 3:23 PM, dave wrote:





bpnjensen wrote:
On May 19, 7:51 am, Drifter wrote:
On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.
It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.
Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.

Be sure to keep a couple of rat traps in your barn/shed.
cuhulin

On May 19, 10:55*pm, wrote:
Be sure to keep a couple of rat traps in your barn/shed.
cuhulin

Ha! It's cool Cuh, not that there aren't critters around (because
there are) but I've never seen a rat in my area before. Lots of
coons / bunny wabbits / squirrels / some kittie cats. But I have to
say, the barn/shed was built like freeking Noah's Ark, if you can
overdo a small area like that....IMO it was overdone and I literally
paid for it $$$ - but that's cool. I'll measure it today so you guys
have a better idea, it's not a big space, but it was built like a mini
barn - but not as big as a barn - follow me? But definitely more than
enough room to store my extra kitchen set / ladders/shovels etc. stuff
like that.

Gregg wrote:
On May 19, 10:55 pm, wrote:
Be sure to keep a couple of rat traps in your barn/shed.
cuhulin

Ha! It's cool Cuh, not that there aren't critters around (because
there are) but I've never seen a rat in my area before. Lots of
coons / bunny wabbits / squirrels / some kittie cats. But I have to
say, the barn/shed was built like freeking Noah's Ark, if you can
overdo a small area like that....IMO it was overdone and I literally
paid for it $$$ - but that's cool. I'll measure it today so you guys
have a better idea, it's not a big space, but it was built like a mini
barn - but not as big as a barn - follow me? But definitely more than
enough room to store my extra kitchen set / ladders/shovels etc. stuff
like that.

Nice shed

On May 20, 10:31*am, dave wrote:
Gregg wrote:
On May 19, 10:55 pm, wrote:
Be sure to keep a couple of rat traps in your barn/shed.
cuhulin

Ha! It's cool Cuh, not that there aren't critters around (because
there are) but I've never seen a rat in my area before. Lots of
coons / bunny wabbits / squirrels / some kittie cats. But I have to
say, the barn/shed was built like freeking Noah's Ark, if you can
overdo a small area like that....IMO it was overdone and I literally
paid for it $$$ - but that's cool. I'll measure it today so you guys
have a better idea, it's not a big space, but it was built like a mini
barn - but not as big as a barn - follow me? But definitely more than
enough room to store my extra kitchen set / ladders/shovels etc. stuff
like that.

Nice shed- Hide quoted text -

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OK - I went out there in the freeking dark and measured my "shed."

I was close in what I was thinking , but off pretty much in the
height. The "Heavyweight Champ Of Sheds"heh comes in peaked at
"exactly" eleven and a quarter X eleven and a quarter X nineteen and
three quarter. The height of nineteen and three quarter though....
that is at the tallest part, the rooftop is like a house, follow me?
That is where I measured, but the slant coming down isn't dramatic -
it's pretty gradual. I'm 6ft.2" and have no problem at all in there
with room or fear of bumping into anything and once I put four more
shelves in there with the two already there - - I can move some more
fun stuff in there. If only I had electricity in there, I could put in
a window (it's windowless) and a little AC unit and a little heater
for the winter. It wouldn't take much IMO to cool or heat a little
area like that.

But I have a spot where I can put things above me, but once I do, I
can't see them which kind of sucks, but I just use my little wooden
six step ladder to take a peak up there. The walls were made ( I'm not
too technical here so I don't know how to phrase it in building lingo)
with the outside wall and then the spray foam insulation and then
another wall to cover it up, still with me? The floor is just your
typical floor, it creaks in a couple spots, I would say the floor is
the worst in terms of stability but in my "not really knowing how to
build a shed mind" .....it would be the easiest to replace - I hope.

But after I measured it I had to walk into the hallowed
area...lol...pretty cool to see that wire clipped to the AD dissapear
into the shed and there she stood when I opened that heavy ass door
start the baptist church choir music my lazy susan with the Vaunted
GE P-780 sitting proudly on top of her. Pathetically I felt somewhat
aroused snicker so I HAD TO sit in my very comfy rocking chair where
I then turned on the GE.

I have to say.....HUGE difference with the wire to the AD. Every
little turn of the dial produced something I could work with in
turning the table to bring in the signal or peaking or nulling with
the loop. So I'm very pleased, it's one of those things I always
wanted to do but just never got around to doing it. So I have to get
another set of fresh D cells for my other 780 because I don't want to
miss having one in the house. Now knowing the dimensions and how it
was built, does it sound safe enough to keep it out there all the
time? Drifter, if you're reading this - let me know your opinion.

Gregg wrote:
On May 20, 10:31 am, wrote:
Gregg wrote:
On May 19, 10:55 pm, wrote:
Be sure to keep a couple of rat traps in your barn/shed.
cuhulin

Ha! It's cool Cuh, not that there aren't critters around (because
there are) but I've never seen a rat in my area before. Lots of
coons / bunny wabbits / squirrels / some kittie cats. But I have to
say, the barn/shed was built like freeking Noah's Ark, if you can
overdo a small area like that....IMO it was overdone and I literally
paid for it $$$ - but that's cool. I'll measure it today so you guys
have a better idea, it's not a big space, but it was built like a mini
barn - but not as big as a barn - follow me? But definitely more than
enough room to store my extra kitchen set / ladders/shovels etc. stuff
like that.

Nice shed- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK - I went out there in the freeking dark and measured my "shed."

I was close in what I was thinking , but off pretty much in the
height. The "Heavyweight Champ Of Sheds"heh comes in peaked at
"exactly" eleven and a quarter X eleven and a quarter X nineteen and
three quarter. The height of nineteen and three quarter though....
that is at the tallest part, the rooftop is like a house, follow me?
That is where I measured, but the slant coming down isn't dramatic -
it's pretty gradual. I'm 6ft.2" and have no problem at all in there
with room or fear of bumping into anything and once I put four more
shelves in there with the two already there - - I can move some more
fun stuff in there. If only I had electricity in there, I could put in
a window (it's windowless) and a little AC unit and a little heater
for the winter. It wouldn't take much IMO to cool or heat a little
area like that.

But I have a spot where I can put things above me, but once I do, I
can't see them which kind of sucks, but I just use my little wooden
six step ladder to take a peak up there. The walls were made ( I'm not
too technical here so I don't know how to phrase it in building lingo)
with the outside wall and then the spray foam insulation and then
another wall to cover it up, still with me? The floor is just your
typical floor, it creaks in a couple spots, I would say the floor is
the worst in terms of stability but in my "not really knowing how to
build a shed mind" .....it would be the easiest to replace - I hope.

But after I measured it I had to walk into the hallowed
area...lol...pretty cool to see that wire clipped to the AD dissapear
into the shed and there she stood when I opened that heavy ass door
start the baptist church choir music my lazy susan with the Vaunted
GE P-780 sitting proudly on top of her. Pathetically I felt somewhat
arousedsnicker so I HAD TO sit in my very comfy rocking chair where
I then turned on the GE.

I have to say.....HUGE difference with the wire to the AD. Every
little turn of the dial produced something I could work with in
turning the table to bring in the signal or peaking or nulling with
the loop. So I'm very pleased, it's one of those things I always
wanted to do but just never got around to doing it. So I have to get
another set of fresh D cells for my other 780 because I don't want to
miss having one in the house. Now knowing the dimensions and how it
was built, does it sound safe enough to keep it out there all the
time? Drifter, if you're reading this - let me know your opinion.


A radio shack? You'll need a fan in the winter to bring the warm air down.

On May 19, 4:40*pm, Gregg wrote:
On May 19, 3:38*pm, Drifter wrote:





On 5/19/2010 3:23 PM, dave wrote:

bpnjensen wrote:
On May 19, 7:51 am, Drifter wrote:
On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.
It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.
Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.
away from the house.
OK - here is the question. With the GE and even the 398 I suppose.. I
ran a length of 12 gauge to my AD DX Sloper with a alligator clip and
ran it back to the GE. My thinking was that I could couple that to
both of my radios that way, which I did with the GE already- along
with having my loop out there. Will this work? I noticed a big
difference out there, but I was only out there for maybe 45 minutes
and it was around 5pm - so I don't know if the radio came alive just
because I was away from everything or because I hooked up to the
antenna. Any comments would be appreciated.
Antenna overload will be your enemy. Figure a way to couple the energy
to the receivers without swamping the front-ends.
Gregg. I have to go with Dave on this. the 398 has a lose front-end, and
almost any bit of wire over 20 ft. will give you trouble. i would
say the less hash is your big winner. that sloper is a real keeper, but
I would try your set-up on a few desk tops. I believe you will see a
bigger difference, from the house out there. it's like going from a
random long wire, to a good loop. you really don't receive more, you
just "hear" more. a lot of those low signals have always been there,
but now they kind of jump out at you. sounds like a cool set up. is
your barn dry? if you keep your receivers there, ya gotta watch the
humidity. and don't forget the winter cold, ya don't want to kill
a good receiver. have fun.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have used my DX-398 (Radiolabs mods) with my Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
and a 60-foot wire outside, with lots of MW blowtorches nearby (like 2
- 50 kW stations within 2 miles on salt flats and another 5 miles away
or so, plus several others not far), and on SW anyway, it is no worse
than any other radio. They all get some level of images below 3.5
MHz, bit nothing serious above. If I got even ten miles away from
this crummy place, most of that would cease too.

The 398, for real signals, leaps ahead dramatically with an external
wire or active antenna. The built-in whip is too weak - because, as I
understand it, Sangean places a resistor either in series with the
darn thing, or across to the ground, either of which is a dumb idea
and both of which are bypassed by the external antenna socket(s) :-/

Bruce
Is that the Sangean ATS909? It has a real front end.

Dave, i believe he has the super 398. I'm not sure what all the mods
are from radiolabs. but, Bruce is not the first person to state this.
i guess they do something on the front end of this port. if it behaves
on the DX-ultra, it's doing great. i have one here in a tight inverted
V , and it works super.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's right Drifter. Here is the site and specs.http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php

Yepp, they gave mine that treatment too. Very nice :-) The sound and
sensitivity and selectivity are all significantly improved, has a real
RF Gain control and well-chosen narrow/wide filters. Me like!

Bruce

On May 19, 11:05*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On May 19, 4:40*pm, Gregg wrote:





On May 19, 3:38*pm, Drifter wrote:

On 5/19/2010 3:23 PM, dave wrote:

bpnjensen wrote:
On May 19, 7:51 am, Drifter wrote:
On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.
It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.
Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.
away from the house.
OK - here is the question. With the GE and even the 398 I suppose. I
ran a length of 12 gauge to my AD DX Sloper with a alligator clip and
ran it back to the GE. My thinking was that I could couple that to
both of my radios that way, which I did with the GE already- along
with having my loop out there. Will this work? I noticed a big
difference out there, but I was only out there for maybe 45 minutes
and it was around 5pm - so I don't know if the radio came alive just
because I was away from everything or because I hooked up to the
antenna. Any comments would be appreciated.
Antenna overload will be your enemy. Figure a way to couple the energy
to the receivers without swamping the front-ends.
Gregg. I have to go with Dave on this. the 398 has a lose front-end, and
almost any bit of wire over 20 ft. will give you trouble. i would
say the less hash is your big winner. that sloper is a real keeper, but
I would try your set-up on a few desk tops. I believe you will see a
bigger difference, from the house out there. it's like going from a
random long wire, to a good loop. you really don't receive more, you
just "hear" more. a lot of those low signals have always been there,
but now they kind of jump out at you. sounds like a cool set up. is
your barn dry? if you keep your receivers there, ya gotta watch the
humidity. and don't forget the winter cold, ya don't want to kill
a good receiver. have fun.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have used my DX-398 (Radiolabs mods) with my Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
and a 60-foot wire outside, with lots of MW blowtorches nearby (like 2
- 50 kW stations within 2 miles on salt flats and another 5 miles away
or so, plus several others not far), and on SW anyway, it is no worse
than any other radio. They all get some level of images below 3.5
MHz, bit nothing serious above. If I got even ten miles away from
this crummy place, most of that would cease too.

The 398, for real signals, leaps ahead dramatically with an external
wire or active antenna. The built-in whip is too weak - because, as I
understand it, Sangean places a resistor either in series with the
darn thing, or across to the ground, either of which is a dumb idea
and both of which are bypassed by the external antenna socket(s) :-/

Bruce
Is that the Sangean ATS909? It has a real front end.

Dave, i believe he has the super 398. I'm not sure what all the mods
are from radiolabs. but, Bruce is not the first person to state this.
i guess they do something on the front end of this port. if it behaves
on the DX-ultra, it's doing great. i have one here in a tight inverted
V , and it works super.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's right Drifter. Here is the site and specs.http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php

Yepp, they gave mine that treatment too. *Very nice :-) *The sound and
sensitivity and selectivity are all significantly improved, has a real
RF Gain control and well-chosen narrow/wide filters. *Me like!

Bruce- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No doubt Bruce. I did my own little mod myself after they returned it.
On the tuning knob, I used the cap of some tuner cleaner I had - and
it fit "perfectly" over the tuning knob.

At least for me, the tuning knob was a little small - not that big a
deal - but I wanted something bigger.

It ( the cap mod) looks like it was made with it. I used three of
those little square shaped sticky things, they're yellow in color,
they were made to stick things to whatever....they're like little
squares of chewing gum. The mod has never come off on it's own, maybe
a year ago I took it off to see how easy it would pull off and I
wanted to clean the mod cap because it's white in color. But it
definitely makes it easier to spin the dial. :-)