D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 7/13/10 07:54 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:


Finally, please realize that Dole or no Dole, Hawaii has virtually no
natural resources and that they have to bring in EVERY DROP of oil to
make the electricity to run the municipal water processing plants



Interesting point, given that, being a volcanic archipeligo, geothermal
energy is readily available, and easily tapped, as a source for power
generation in virtually unlimited supply.



Don't the pipes deteriorate rapidly? Isn't there a lot Hydrogen Sulfide
pollution?

The sun provides all the energy we need, free for the taking.

In article , Then-Destroy-
says...
On 7/13/2010 11:19 AM, BDK wrote:
In article ,
says...
On 7/13/2010 1:55 AM, BDK wrote:

It's sad when people are so desperate to say something bad about
Obama that they have to stoop to claiming he's responsible for making
showerheads "low flow". That's been happening, like you said, since
REAGAN was in office.

Congratulations! You've just discovered another characteristic of these
knee-jerk, racist morons -- they have a *very* short memory.


I've known that for a long time. It just seems that they've gotten worse
about it over the last 25 years or so.

Pitiful.

What a coincidence, that's how long Socialists have been pushing hard at
getting rid of our freedom. Everything you push has the bonus that it
takes away freedom and capitalism and creates more Socialism.

And it's Socialism and the Eco-Socialists that created the atmosphere
that passed laws for water saver shower heads and other fixtures that
are "water saver" rated and the idea to FORCE their use by law.

And yes Obama is one of those omnipotent Progressive-Socialists that
presumes that he knows what is best for all humanity.... much like he
is the "Lord thy God" who knows what is best for all. Typical
Narcissist Socialist isn't he.

I need to have my raving kook to English dictionary updated with the
latest firmware.
--
BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!

On 07/13/2010 01:41 AM, Christopher Helms wrote:
Was it "Fascism" in Hawaii when the state demanded public water use
restrictions because the Dole plant was using huge amounts of water to
process pineapples?

Er...huh?

Bad day on the pineapple express there, stoner?

On 7/13/2010 12:24 PM, dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:


What's more is that to save that little bit of water in the flush, they
force you to use the New toilets and they never updated the Waste lines
and many older homes couldn't have pipes upgraded anyways. But that
lower amount of water with each flush(and the 1/8 drop per foot) will
create many more stoppages.... Stoppages mean a plumber being called
and that costs many times the water and gas and money......



My American Standard golf ball eater works great. I've never had to
flush twice.

Good for you. I worked in plumbing for a while and you're the lucky one.

You also missed the point that the sewer lines in existing houses and
toilets were a *matched system......* more /or/ less water needs
different pitch and height and diameter on the lines that the water/crap
travels through.

Why not install a maceration unit and make it all a slurry and flush 1/2
gal of water? or use a storage tank/maceration and a pump to push the
sewage rather than allowing "gravity and water" to drag the sh!t to the
sewer?

Fluid dynamics and gravity..... most people call the plumber more
often thanks to incompetent government regulations. If all it took was
placing a brick in any 3gal toilet why did the government need to
regulate new toilets? 3gal toilets need 3 gal and sewer lines need
enough water to flow correctly also.

Instead of "user" efficiency the government seeks some imaginary water
efficiency....

On Jul 13, 12:06*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 7/13/2010 12:24 PM, dave wrote:

My American Standard golf ball eater works great. I've never had to
flush twice.

Well, you -should- flush twice anyway -- it's a long way to Washington,
DC. *:-D



Ah, so THAT'S where all these $hitty politicians come from!

On 7/13/2010 12:50 PM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

Why not install a maceration unit and make it all a slurry and flush
1/2 gal of water? or use a storage tank/maceration and a pump to push
the sewage rather than allowing "gravity and water" to drag the sh!t
to the sewer?

Why not install a maceration unit?

Probably because gravity is a lot cheaper than the electricity required
to run tens of millions maceration units.

Furthermore, in a previous post about the government requiring the use
of 1 gallon flush toilets, you (Beam Me Up Scotty) said of the government:

That's Fascism/Socialism..... Thank you Leftists, for micromanaging
my life.

Let me see if I've got this right...

If the government says use a 1 gallon flush toilet, "That's
Fascism/Socialism".

If BMU Scotty (or the government) dictates a maceration unit, then
that's OK? Pot/Kettle/Black it would seem.

Bwahahahaha...

On Jul 13, 5:51*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 7/13/2010 1:55 AM, BDK wrote:

It's sad when people are so desperate to say something bad about
Obama that they have to stoop to claiming he's responsible for making
showerheads "low flow". That's been happening, like you said, since
REAGAN was in office.

- Congratulations!
- You've just discovered another characteristic
- of these knee-jerk, racist morons --
- they have a *very* short memory.

JfK -So let me see here . . .

Anyone that you do not agree with is a 'racist moron'

Anyone that does not agree with you is a 'racist moron'

.. . . wait a minute . . . my knee just jerked . . .

Now where was I ? hummm... seams I forgot * * *

Speaking of Kokomo : How "The Joe" Are You ! ~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qReKppA71DE

On Jul 13, 7:45Â*am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 7/13/2010 4:41 AM, Christopher Helms wrote:



On Jul 12, 5:58 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
… In the name of conservation, a federal law limits the amount of
water that can pass through a nozzle to 2.5 gallons per minute. The
law was designed to limit both water and energy use related to pumping
the water.

Until recently, a loophole that allowed multi-nozzled showerheads
(with each individual nozzle meeting the flow-capacity limit) put this
personal choice where it belongs: in the hands of consumers.
Showerheads with three or even eight nozzles could be purchased by
homebuilders to equip luxury bathrooms as long as the per-nozzle water-
flow limit was followed. Regrettably, the DOE decided that
alternatives to the standard showerhead could no longer be allowed
and, in May, sought to close the legal gap. A redefinition of
showerheads is expected.

Dictating the amount of water that is to be used in a shower has
little bearing on energy policy and opens the door to far more
invasive measures. If the DOE can limit the energy used in showering,
it could just as easily involve itself in legislating how much energy
any appliance can use, how long it can be used each day, or what kind
of electronics can be sold.

[...]

In involving itself so closely in the American household, the DOE has
overstepped its bounds. Showerheads simply don’t fit under
electricity, fuel, or energy on a national scale. Which showerhead to
use should be a personal choice made by individual households, not by
a commission or national organization.

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....will-be-the-sh....

That's Fascism!

You do know the government has Banned your old 3 gallon flush toilets
didn't you.....

What's more is that to save that little bit of water in the flush, they
force you to use the New toilets and they never updated the Waste lines
and many older homes couldn't have pipes upgraded anyways. But that
lower amount of water with each flush(and the 1/8 drop per foot) will
create many more stoppages.... Â*Stoppages mean a plumber being called
and that costs many times the water and gas and money......

When computing the water saved, the cost is NOT just a new toilet with
1.5gal flush.

That's Fascism/Socialism..... Â*Thank you Leftists, for micromanaging my
life.

Next they will be smuggling 5-Gal Toilets
across the Border like Freon
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/11/10/us...pagewanted=all


Putting the Low-Flush Toilets Water Tank on/in
the Wall with a 4~6 Foot Drop can make for a
very effective Flushing Action.
http://starcraftcustombuilders.com/i...TankToilet.jpg

A Gallon of Water that only Drops a Foot has very
little Energy {Mechanical Force} : Where as that
same Gallon of Water that now Drops a 4 Feet has
4 Times the Energy and 4 Times the Mechanical
Force to completely Flush the Toilet.

Installing a Urinal with a Pint-Size Flushing Action
can reduce the overall amount of Water used to
Flush Toilets by ~25%.
http://www.zurn.com/operations/ecova...pages/home.asp

Dual Flush Toilets are another alternative
that uses the existing space and hook-up.
http://home.howstuffworks.com/dual-flush-toilet.htm

On Jul 13, 9:24*am, dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:



What's more is that to save that little bit of water in the flush, they
force you to use the New toilets and they never updated the Waste lines
and many older homes couldn't have pipes upgraded anyways. But that
lower amount of water with each flush(and the 1/8 drop per foot) will
create many more stoppages.... *Stoppages mean a plumber being called
and that costs many times the water and gas and money......

- My American Standard golf ball eater works great.
-*I've never had to flush twice.

Dave ? golf ball eater ? - gigo ~ RHF

On Jul 13, 8:53*am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 7/13/2010 12:24 PM, dave wrote:

Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

What's more is that to save that little bit of water in the flush, they
force you to use the New toilets and they never updated the Waste lines
and many older homes couldn't have pipes upgraded anyways. But that
lower amount of water with each flush(and the 1/8 drop per foot) will
create many more stoppages.... *Stoppages mean a plumber being called
and that costs many times the water and gas and money......

My American Standard golf ball eater works great. *I've never had to
flush twice.

Good for you. *I worked in plumbing for a while and you're the luck one..

Some where at some time I heard that they
were installing Flow Restrictors at the Wall :
So that the User would have to Wait a few
minutes for the Tank to Fill for a 2nd Flush;
and therefore you would leave and not make
the 2nd Flush.
-but- then along comes the next User and
they see the partially un-flushed Toilet Bowel
and they Flush-It before they use-it.

thou shall not flush a 2nd time ~ RHF
.. . . u n l e s s . . .

You are singing the Praises of/to The Obama song :
# 1 - praise the obama,
--- pulling your chain and Flush-Ing
#2 - Praise The Obama.
--- pulling your button and Flush-Ing
#3 - PRAISE THE OBAMA !
--- and one more time we are Flush-Ing

-note- the spirit of the obama made me do it

Praise Be The Obama ! - my prez-a-duntz ~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17kA50c1zs
All Hail to Our Lord and Savior Prez Obama !
http://votingfemale.files.wordpress....a-i-am-god.jpg