On 8/18/2010 12:44 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 8/18/10 14:29 , Lamont Cranston wrote:
On 8/17/2010 6:19 PM, Chas. Chan wrote:

"Liberal Fascist" is an oxymoron. Fascism is at the extreme right of the
political spectrum.

"...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism..." --
Benito Mussolini, the Father of Fascism


Fascism: a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation
with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and in which a
mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy,
but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic
liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or
legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.


-- Robert O. Paxton.



So, Obama is a Conservative?

Your definition just confirmed that he's a center-left liberal.

On 8/19/2010 11:39 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

George Bush started two illegal, murderous wars against countries that
never harmed the United States in any way.

Sad but absolutely true...

Obama, whose name ought to be changed to Barack Hussein Fetchit in honor
of how obedient he is to his masters...

First, all the recent presidents have had "masters". Just ask JFK what
happened to him when he wouldn't play ball with "them" [HIS "masters"].

...[Obama] has continued and even escalated
those wars.

Huh? Escalated?

Just last night (8/18), he took *tens of thousands* of troops *OUT* of
Iraq. Call that an "escalation" if you wish.

Finally, please remember that W Bush painted us into a total,
non-winnable corner; Republican or Democrat, stay or leave -- no matter
what any president of any party does, there will be bad consequences in
Afghanistan and Iraq.

With all good wishes,

Joe

Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

One of the big "change" promises made by Fetchit was ending the wars,
beginning with the day he took office. The Iraq war continues to be
bloody and destructive, the Afghanistan war is much larger and now
includes Pakistan (illegally and grossly immorally, I might add), and
the insane Hate Iran (and Hate Russia) campaigns are in fuller flower
than they were under the neocons and may well lead to another war of
aggression.



"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values
or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized
violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."

- Samuel P. Huntington




mike

Chas. Chan wrote:

On Aug 18, 2:29 pm, Lamont Cranston
wrote:
On 8/17/2010 6:19 PM, Chas. Chan wrote:

"Liberal Fascist" is an oxymoron. Fascism is at the extreme right of
the political spectrum.

"...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism..." --
Benito Mussolini, the Father of Fascism

Another Liberal ignorant of historical facts.
Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself or are you really ignorant?


Benito Mussolini is unaware of the meaning of Fascism? I think not. He
also stated that it could be more appropriately called 'Corporatism".



mike

On Aug 21, 8:06*pm, m II wrote:
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
One of the big "change" promises made by Fetchit was ending the wars,
beginning with the day he took office. The Iraq war continues to be
bloody and destructive, the Afghanistan war is much larger and now
includes Pakistan (illegally and grossly immorally, I might add), and
the insane Hate Iran (and Hate Russia) campaigns are in fuller flower
than they were under the neocons and may well lead to another war of
aggression.

- "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or
values
- or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized
- violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never
do."
-
- - Samuel P. Huntington
-
- mike

Mike [M II],

The first three : Ideas, Values and Religion and the
Freedom there-of; were the basis of the Superiority
in the Tools {Weapons} and the Focus {Leadership}
to do the latter 'Applied Organized Violence' more
commonly know as "WAR" in the Self-Defense of
Western Ideas; Western Values; and Western
Religion.

mike would you rather choose to being conquered,
forced submission, total subjugation, and death or
conversion . . . to the nazis, communists and/or
the islam-o-fascists - pal ~ RHF

On Aug 21, 8:12*pm, m II wrote:
Chas. Chan wrote:
On Aug 18, 2:29 pm, Lamont Cranston
wrote:
On 8/17/2010 6:19 PM, Chas. Chan wrote:

"Liberal Fascist" is an oxymoron. *Fascism is at the extreme right of
the political spectrum.

"...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism..." --
Benito Mussolini, the Father of Fascism

Another Liberal ignorant of historical facts.
Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself or are you really ignorant?

- Benito Mussolini is unaware of the meaning of Fascism? I think not.
He
- also stated that it could be more appropriately called
'Corporatism".
-
- mike

Corporate 'Collective' ? -or- Soviet 'Collective' ?
To those Forced into Submission and Total
Subjugation by the 'Collective' {Party Leadership} :
DOES IT MATTER !

RHF wrote:


The first three : Ideas, Values and Religion and the
Freedom there-of; were the basis of the Superiority
in the Tools {Weapons} and the Focus {Leadership}
to do the latter 'Applied Organized Violence' more
commonly know as "WAR" in the Self-Defense of
Western Ideas; Western Values; and Western
Religion.


Then you go on to destroy your own argument by mentioning twentieth
century Germans and how all of the above can be abused to wicked ends.
Without religion war is impossible. That makes religion evil.

On Aug 22, 1:51*pm, dave wrote:


[...]



Without religion war is impossible.


Now THAT has to be one of the dumbest statements I ever heard. History
is full of wars and tribal conflicts that had nothing to do with
religion.

On Aug 22, 12:04*pm, DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Aug 22, 1:51*pm, dave wrote:



[...]



Without religion war is impossible.

- Now THAT has to be one of the dumbest
- statements I ever heard.
- History is full of wars and tribal conflicts
- that had nothing to do with religion.

Ug They Got Food - Ug We Want Food :
Kill Them ! Take Food.

Ug They Got Water - Ug We Want Water :
Kill Them ! Take Water.

Ug They Got Fire - Ug We Want Fire :
Kill Them ! Take Fire.

Ug They Got Women - Ug We Want Women :
Kill Them ! Take Women.

proving once again one 'ug' leads to another . . .

uga uga chew chew ~ RHF