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On Sep 16, 4:40*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/16/2010 4:18 PM, CaltechPhD wrote: * ... That is not what I wrote. *I stated that it took a lot less time to get a PhD in science and engineering (true 20 years ago, and probably still true). *I drew the conclusion that it is easier to get a doctorate in a technical field. *I did not write anyting abot IQ. Don't make me responsible for anything you write or don't. *Don't question if I care what you write, or what you don't; *I won't and I don't. My previous post states what I find the facts you state prove ... but, let me make it clearer. *There are far more damn idiots in the arts, music, philosophy, etc. *These are NOT exact sciences; much is left open to "interpretation." *It is only logical that a phd in such fields would not be such a task as would exist in the exact sciences; *However, this is off balanced by the lower IQs which these individuals pursuing these fields tend to display ... so, simply put, it takes the dummies longer! * ROFLOL Regards, JS Is there a 'possibility' that an IQ Test is good at measuring those Brain Functions and Abilities that make a good Engineers and does not do as good a job measuring what it takes to be a good artist or musician . . . |
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On Sep 17, 12:12*am, RHF wrote:
On Sep 16, 4:40*pm, John Smith wrote: On 9/16/2010 4:18 PM, CaltechPhD wrote: * ... That is not what I wrote. *I stated that it took a lot less time to get a PhD in science and engineering (true 20 years ago, and probably still true). *I drew the conclusion that it is easier to get a doctorate in a technical field. *I did not write anyting abot IQ. Don't make me responsible for anything you write or don't. *Don't question if I care what you write, or what you don't; *I won't and I don't. My previous post states what I find the facts you state prove ... but, let me make it clearer. *There are far more damn idiots in the arts, music, philosophy, etc. *These are NOT exact sciences; much is left open to "interpretation." *It is only logical that a phd in such fields would not be such a task as would exist in the exact sciences; *However, this is off balanced by the lower IQs which these individuals pursuing these fields tend to display ... so, simply put, it takes the dummies longer! * ROFLOL Regards, JS Is there a 'possibility' that an IQ Test is good at measuring those Brain Functions and Abilities that make a good Engineers and does not do as good a job measuring what it takes to be a good artist or musician . . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sounds plausible. Having said that, there are plenty of studues that have provided good statistical correlation between musical skill and high levels of math and science comprehension and ability. Does this mean that the two skillsets are intercheangeable? Almost certainly not - but it suggests that the brain recognizes the similarities and overlaps. Alberts Einstein and Schweitzer were both fine musicians. Schweitzer was a genius on the organ. Bruce Jensen |
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On 9/17/10 09:35 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 17, 12:12 am, wrote: On Sep 16, 4:40 pm, John wrote: On 9/16/2010 4:18 PM, CaltechPhD wrote: ... That is not what I wrote. I stated that it took a lot less time to get a PhD in science and engineering (true 20 years ago, and probably still true). I drew the conclusion that it is easier to get a doctorate in a technical field. I did not write anyting abot IQ. Don't make me responsible for anything you write or don't. Don't question if I care what you write, or what you don't; I won't and I don't. My previous post states what I find the facts you state prove ... but, let me make it clearer. There are far more damn idiots in the arts, music, philosophy, etc. These are NOT exact sciences; much is left open to "interpretation." It is only logical that a phd in such fields would not be such a task as would exist in the exact sciences; However, this is off balanced by the lower IQs which these individuals pursuing these fields tend to display ... so, simply put, it takes the dummies longer! ROFLOL Regards, JS Is there a 'possibility' that an IQ Test is good at measuring those Brain Functions and Abilities that make a good Engineers and does not do as good a job measuring what it takes to be a good artist or musician . . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sounds plausible. Having said that, there are plenty of studues that have provided good statistical correlation between musical skill and high levels of math and science comprehension and ability. Does this mean that the two skillsets are intercheangeable? Almost certainly not - but it suggests that the brain recognizes the similarities and overlaps. Alberts Einstein and Schweitzer were both fine musicians. Schweitzer was a genius on the organ. Pretty fair pedal-pianist, as well. His interpretations of Bach on piano are believed to be significant inspiration for some of Casals interpretations of Bach's Concerti. Bruce Jensen |
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On Sep 17, 8:10*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 9/17/10 09:35 , bpnjensen wrote: On Sep 17, 12:12 am, *wrote: On Sep 16, 4:40 pm, John *wrote: On 9/16/2010 4:18 PM, CaltechPhD wrote: * *... That is not what I wrote. *I stated that it took a lot less time to get a PhD in science and engineering (true 20 years ago, and probably still true). *I drew the conclusion that it is easier to get a doctorate in a technical field. *I did not write anyting abot IQ. Don't make me responsible for anything you write or don't. *Don't question if I care what you write, or what you don't; *I won't and I don't. My previous post states what I find the facts you state prove ... but, let me make it clearer. *There are far more damn idiots in the arts, music, philosophy, etc. *These are NOT exact sciences; much is left open to "interpretation." *It is only logical that a phd in such fields would not be such a task as would exist in the exact sciences; *However, this is off balanced by the lower IQs which these individuals pursuing these fields tend to display ... so, simply put, it takes the dummies longer! * *ROFLOL Regards, JS Is there a 'possibility' that an IQ Test is good at measuring those Brain Functions and Abilities that make a good Engineers and does not do as good a job measuring what it takes to be a good artist or musician . . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sounds plausible. *Having said that, there are plenty of studues that have provided good statistical correlation between musical skill and high levels of math and science comprehension and ability. *Does this mean that the two skillsets are intercheangeable? *Almost certainly not - but it suggests that the brain recognizes the similarities and overlaps. Alberts Einstein and Schweitzer were both fine musicians. *Schweitzer was a genius on the organ. * *Pretty fair pedal-pianist, as well. His interpretations of Bach on piano are believed to be significant inspiration for some of Casals interpretations of Bach's Concerti. OK - I am not surprised. His Bach organ recordings on EMI, as old as they are, are gorgeous. |
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On 9/17/10 10:50 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 17, 8:10 am, "D. Peter wrote: On 9/17/10 09:35 , bpnjensen wrote: On Sep 17, 12:12 am, wrote: On Sep 16, 4:40 pm, John wrote: On 9/16/2010 4:18 PM, CaltechPhD wrote: ... That is not what I wrote. I stated that it took a lot less time to get a PhD in science and engineering (true 20 years ago, and probably still true). I drew the conclusion that it is easier to get a doctorate in a technical field. I did not write anyting abot IQ. Don't make me responsible for anything you write or don't. Don't question if I care what you write, or what you don't; I won't and I don't. My previous post states what I find the facts you state prove ... but, let me make it clearer. There are far more damn idiots in the arts, music, philosophy, etc. These are NOT exact sciences; much is left open to "interpretation." It is only logical that a phd in such fields would not be such a task as would exist in the exact sciences; However, this is off balanced by the lower IQs which these individuals pursuing these fields tend to display ... so, simply put, it takes the dummies longer! ROFLOL Regards, JS Is there a 'possibility' that an IQ Test is good at measuring those Brain Functions and Abilities that make a good Engineers and does not do as good a job measuring what it takes to be a good artist or musician . . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sounds plausible. Having said that, there are plenty of studues that have provided good statistical correlation between musical skill and high levels of math and science comprehension and ability. Does this mean that the two skillsets are intercheangeable? Almost certainly not - but it suggests that the brain recognizes the similarities and overlaps. Alberts Einstein and Schweitzer were both fine musicians. Schweitzer was a genius on the organ. Pretty fair pedal-pianist, as well. His interpretations of Bach on piano are believed to be significant inspiration for some of Casals interpretations of Bach's Concerti. OK - I am not surprised. His Bach organ recordings on EMI, as old as they are, are gorgeous. Indeed they are. |
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