On Sep 17, 9:46*pm, wrote:
On Sep 17, 6:57*pm, John Smith wrote:

On 9/17/2010 4:45 PM, dave wrote:

...
LEDs don't seem very cost effective, and the energy usage seems
comparable to CFLs.

When LEDs come into mass production, to the extent of CFLs, that will
fix the cost effectiveness ... a good LED consumes 50% the power of a
CFL, or better ... this efficiency is not as advanced as it will be in
the future.

Regards,
JS

- There seems to be a surge in LED usage lately, mostly in cars and
- traffic lights. I do like LEDs. They literally stay cool. *But
- expensive,for now.

Saves in the size of the Copper Wiring and
Reduces the Weight of the Car/Truck :
Because the LED uses less Current for
the same 12 VDC then the equivalent
Lumen's Rated Incandescent Bulbs.

On Sep 17, 10:01Â*pm, wrote:
On Sep 17, 11:30Â*pm, bpnjensen wrote:



On Sep 17, 5:54Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:

On Sep 17, 5:11Â*pm, John Smith wrote:

On 9/17/2010 1:00 PM, wrote:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

Really, it is time to go LED ... if we ever need them, we can bring back
incandescent ...

Regards,
JS

So, we need to outlaw incandescents because you say so?
Would it not be wise to err on the side of free choice?

LIBERAL FASCISTS can't, won't stop with just incandescent bulbs...

Assistant Secretary of Energy Cathy [www.masterbationtoday.com] Zoi
said Thursday that the U.S. Department of Energy has a “mandate� to
issue regulations to determine what household appliances are available
to Americans in the future.

Speaking at the inaugural meeting of the recently reestablished
Secretary of Energy Advisory Board (SEAB), Zoi pointed to four tactics
the Obama administration intended use to advance the “deployment of
clean energy.� The first three were government subsidies for private-
sector green energy projects, special tax incentives for green energy
projects and low-interest government-backed loans for green energy
projects.

“The fourth one, which the secretary and I love,� said Zoi, “is where
we have a mandate. Where we can actually just issue regulations and do
market transformation.�

[...]

Before becoming President Barack Obama’s assistant secretary of energy
for energy efficiency and renewable energy, Zoi served as
environmental adviser to President Bill Clinton and the founding CEO
of former Vice President Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection.

Zoi said that stricter federal energy efficiency standards will “drive
innovation� and are “cost effective.�

“As the secretary [Chu] says, ‘We’re going to MAKE [by Liberal Fascist
force] people save money for themselves,’� Zoi said. “They haven’t
dumped the dollar bills on the ground yet.�

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75469

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- His real name must be Rush Limbaugh
- or Glenn Beck. Â*Another escapee.

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HELLO ! - My name is 'Wilson' . . .
and I am your new next-door neighbor

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Hi Again , , , Say Do You Listen to 'Rush' ?
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wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:00 pm, wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

Just make sure they are manufactured here and not in the Peoples
Republic. Last time I checked they still used a red banner. Guess some
people never had the 'privilege' of living under a complete
dictatoprship...

Most light bulbs are made in Eastern Europe. Do they even make medium
Edison base bulbs in N. America?

On 9/17/2010 10:19 PM, dave wrote:

**** GE

....or at least Neutron Jack Welch (and his evil architect Noel Tichy).

On Sep 17, 4:00*pm, wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

I'll burn hot incandescent light bulbs till they pull my cold dead
hands from them.

On Sep 18, 7:26*am, NX211 wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:00*pm, wrote:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

- I'll burn hot incandescent light bulbs till they
- pull my cold dead hands from them.

-wrt- Heating a Room with a 100 Watt Light Bulb
http://www.earthmountainview.com/domes/domehomefnt.jpg
IIRC somewhere sometime read something about
some of the Concrete/Stucco Geodesic Dome
http://www.earthmountainview.com/domes/domehomefnt.jpg
Homes that in the right climate a 100 Watt Light
http://www.homeownernut.com/uploaded.../dome_home.jpg
Bulb would keep a Room Warm in the Winter ?NITT?

On Sep 17, 5:18*pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 17, 3:11*pm, John Smith wrote:

On 9/17/2010 1:00 PM, wrote:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can..
cuhulin

Really, it is time to go LED ... if we ever need them, we can bring back
incandescent ...

Regards,
JS

- I have had 20+ LED Lights for 120-VAC
- with the Standard USA E27-Base.
-
- Only 4~6 have lasted more than a Year
- with out going blank or loosing half the
- individual LEDs in the Bulbs.
-
- Some of these LEDs cost in the $20~$30
-
- IMHO - LEDs are still : Not Ready for Prime Time.

But then again I have had some real good success
with some LEDs : Have 4 Outside Yellow LED Bug
& Security Lites for the Detached Garage that are
now 7 Years Old and run Nightly from D2D.
-use-only- 2 Watts Each -v- 13W

Recently bought a few LED Nite-Lite Bulbs that
actually are as Bright as a 7 Watt Incandescent
Light Bulb. -use-only- 2 Watts Each
-source- SuperBrightLEDs.Com
Model # E-12 WHP3
These were the first that were not too 'dim' to
actually use as a replacement for the older
7 Watt Incandescent Nite-Lite Bulbs
-note- the older 4 Watt Nite-Lite Incandescent
Bulbs were not 'bright' enough either.

- These Mushroom CFLs rated at 120 Watts Light
- http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/289..._anion_CFL.jpg
- Output {=Lumens} and use only 30 Watts of Power
- are Good for Reading Lights {Daylight} and Shine
- http://cgi.ebay.com/370294601763
- Well in most places a 100 Watt Incandescent Bulb
- was used before.http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001A0GFCG/
- .
- .

Also have some other Outside Cold Cathode CFLs
[CCFLs or C2FLs] that are now 3 Years Old and
run Nightly from D2D {Yellow Colored used as Bug
& Porch Lites} -use-only- 8 Watts Each -v-13W

Twain Harte, CA = Hot in the Summer and Icy
Cold in the Winter Snow . ~ RHF

On Sep 18, 1:02*pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 18, 12:19*pm, bpnjensen wrote:





On Sep 18, 8:05*am, RHF wrote:

On Sep 18, 7:26*am, NX211 wrote:

On Sep 17, 4:00*pm, wrote:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

- I'll burn hot incandescent light bulbs till they
- pull my cold dead hands from them.

-wrt- Heating a Room with a 100 Watt Light Bulbhttp://www.earthmountainview.com/domes/domehomefnt.jpg
IIRC somewhere sometime read something about
some of the Concrete/Stucco Geodesic Domehttp://www.earthmountainview..com/domes/domehomefnt.jpg
Homes that in the right climate a 100 Watt Lighthttp://www.homeownernut.com/uploadedfiles/2010/05/dome_home.jpg
Bulb would keep a Room Warm in the Winter ?NITT?
*.
FWIW - Many people who ha old Tube type TV Sets
in their Bedrooms had to add a small electric Room
Heater when they up-graded to a new LCD HD-TV.
-yes- the old TV Sets did put out that much Heat*
hour-after-hour as you watched TV hour-after-hour.
* That's 'Toasty' TV Watching :-}

~ RHF
*.

- 'tis true - old technology was really good
- at heating your house in winter :-)

Hey a new Home Energy Plan :

Hot Incandescent Light Bulbs in the Winter

Cool CFLs/LEDs Light Bulbs in the Summer

brilliant ! ~ RHF
*.

I will share the credit for this idea only if you give me your E1 ;-)

On Sep 17, 10:30Â*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 17, 5:54Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:





On Sep 17, 5:11Â*pm, John Smith wrote:

On 9/17/2010 1:00 PM, wrote:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

Really, it is time to go LED ... if we ever need them, we can bring back
incandescent ...

Regards,
JS

So, we need to outlaw incandescents because you say so?
Would it not be wise to err on the side of free choice?

LIBERAL FASCISTS can't, won't stop with just incandescent bulbs...

Assistant Secretary of Energy Cathy [www.masterbationtoday.com] Zoi
said Thursday that the U.S. Department of Energy has a “mandate� to
issue regulations to determine what household appliances are available
to Americans in the future.

Speaking at the inaugural meeting of the recently reestablished
Secretary of Energy Advisory Board (SEAB), Zoi pointed to four tactics
the Obama administration intended use to advance the “deployment of
clean energy.� The first three were government subsidies for private-
sector green energy projects, special tax incentives for green energy
projects and low-interest government-backed loans for green energy
projects.

“The fourth one, which the secretary and I love,� said Zoi, “is where
we have a mandate. Where we can actually just issue regulations and do
market transformation.�

[...]

Before becoming President Barack Obama’s assistant secretary of energy
for energy efficiency and renewable energy, Zoi served as
environmental adviser to President Bill Clinton and the founding CEO
of former Vice President Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection.

Zoi said that stricter federal energy efficiency standards will “drive
innovation� and are “cost effective.�

“As the secretary [Chu] says, ‘We’re going to MAKE [by Liberal Fascist
force] people save money for themselves,’� Zoi said. “They haven’t
dumped the dollar bills on the ground yet.�

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75469

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Oooo, we have another government mule working OT for the 0baMa0
Liberal Fascists

DENVER -- Sen. Barack Obama's campaign organized its supporters
Wednesday night to confront Tribune-owned WGN-AM in Chicago for having
a critic of the Illinois Democrat on its air.

"WGN radio is giving right-wing hatchet man Stanley Kurtz a forum to
air his baseless, fear-mongering terrorist smears," Obama's campaign
wrote in an e-mail to supporters. "He's currently scheduled to spend a
solid two-hour block from 9:00 to 11:00 p.m. pushing lies,
distortions, and manipulations about Barack and University of Illinois
professor William Ayers."

Kurtz, a conservative writer, recently wrote an article for the
National Review that looked at Obama's ties to Ayers, a former 1960s
radical who later emerged as a school reform advocate in Chicago.

The magazine had been blocked in its initial attempts to obtain
records from the University of Illinois at Chicago regarding a school
reform initiative called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Obama
chaired and Ayers co-founded.

Obama critics were quick to suggest that political clout could be
involved in seeking to protect Obama from embarrassment. The school
later reserved its position and made the records available Tuesday.

On Wednesday evening, Obama's campaign urged supporters to call the
radio station to complain.

"Tell WGN that by providing Kurtz with airtime, they are legitimizing
baseless attacks from a smear-merchant and lowering the standards of
political discourse," the note said.

"It is absolutely unacceptable that WGN would give a slimy character
assassin like Kurtz time for his divisive, destructive ranting on our
public airwaves," the note continued. "At the very least, they should
offer sane, honest rebuttal to every one of Kurtz's lies."

Zack Christenson, executive producer of "Extension 720 with Milt
Rosenburg," said the response was strong.

"I would say this is the biggest response we've ever got from a
campaign or a candidate," he said. "This is really unprecedented with
the show, the way that people are flooding the calls and our email
boxes."

Christenson said the Obama campaign was asked to have someone appear
on the show and declined the request.

"He got into the files just yesterday, so we wanted to have him on to
find out what he found. And, if at all possible, we wanted to get the
Obama campaign, to get their side of the story," Christenson said.
"That's why the uproar is kind of amazing, because we wanted the Obama
campaign's take as well."

The show's producer said the calls dropped off after the show's first
hour. He did not have a count of calls, but said it was "non-stop."

Obama's campaign has launched similar offensives against stations that
have run campaign ads that it did not like.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po...nts_wgn_r.html

On Sep 19, 8:54Â*am, "Chas. Chan" wrote:
On Sep 18, 12:01Â*am, wrote:

On Sep 17, 11:30Â*pm, bpnjensen wrote:

On Sep 17, 5:54Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:

On Sep 17, 5:11Â*pm, John Smith wrote:

On 9/17/2010 1:00 PM, wrote:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

Really, it is time to go LED ... if we ever need them, we can bring back
incandescent ...

Regards,
JS

So, we need to outlaw incandescents because you say so?
Would it not be wise to err on the side of free choice?

LIBERAL FASCISTS can't, won't stop with just incandescent bulbs...

Assistant Secretary of Energy Cathy [www.masterbationtoday.com] Zoi
said Thursday that the U.S. Department of Energy has a “mandate� to
issue regulations to determine what household appliances are available
to Americans in the future.

Speaking at the inaugural meeting of the recently reestablished
Secretary of Energy Advisory Board (SEAB), Zoi pointed to four tactics
the Obama administration intended use to advance the “deployment of
clean energy.� The first three were government subsidies for private-
sector green energy projects, special tax incentives for green energy
projects and low-interest government-backed loans for green energy
projects.

“The fourth one, which the secretary and I love,� said Zoi, “is where
we have a mandate. Where we can actually just issue regulations and do
market transformation.�

[...]

Before becoming President Barack Obama’s assistant secretary of energy
for energy efficiency and renewable energy, Zoi served as
environmental adviser to President Bill Clinton and the founding CEO
of former Vice President Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection.

Zoi said that stricter federal energy efficiency standards will “drive
innovation� and are “cost effective.�

“As the secretary [Chu] says, ‘We’re going to MAKE [by Liberal Fascist
force] people save money for themselves,’� Zoi said.. “They haven’t
dumped the dollar bills on the ground yet.�

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75469

WTF!

Are you always this psychotic, or just a really bad actor?- Hide quoted text -

His real name must be Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck. Â*Another escapee.- Hide quoted text -

YOUR real name must be Adolf!


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