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D. Peter Maus[_2_] January 3rd 11 06:37 PM

Republicans put car thief in charge of investigating Obama
 
On 1/3/11 12:36 , China Blue Ribbon wrote:

When someone claims the most corrupt adminstration, they don't get the benefit
of the doubt.



Thank God you're not an officer of the Court.



Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 3rd 11 06:38 PM

Common-Sense-R-Us : Bring Fairness and Balance {Conservative-Equal-Air-Time}To NPR (CPB) In The 'Public Interest'
 
On 1/2/2011 11:25 AM, RHF wrote:
On Jan 1, 3:18 pm, dave wrote:
Your idea of "fairness" and "justice" is to IMPOSE YOUR idea of
"fairness" and "justice" by way of Liberal fascist government control
instead of the populace choosing what they wish to watch or listen via
the free and unfettered marketplace.


Do what you want on cable or satellite. The PUBLIC AIRWAVES belong to
everyone and it is ANTI-AMERICAN to allow them to be dominated by one
point of view. To me,



Where in the constitution is there something that says "equal press"
or "equal speech" when you find that just post it here and I will agree
with you. Until then, you are ****ing up a rope.

You and I have "free speech" and if you want to use it on any media, all
it takes is money. If you want free speech that costs zero then get soap
box and stand in the town square. The Air waves don't belong to this
Nation any more than Germany owns the airwaves, does the government also
own all the limited light waves?


Can the Government force you to turn off your lights, or force you to
share your light with someone that has no light?





D. Peter Maus[_2_] January 3rd 11 06:54 PM

Common-Sense-R-Us : Bring Fairness and Balance {Conservative-Equal-Air-Time}To NPR (CPB) In The 'Public Interest'
 
On 1/3/11 12:38 , Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

{preceding points stipulated}

Can the Government force you to turn off your lights, or force you to
share your light with someone that has no light?



Well, it's interesting you bring that up. The answer, is "yes."

Is it Constitutional, no. But they can do it.


Examples.

In Palm Beach, there are local ordinances with fines and other
penalties attached requiring ocean front property owners to turn
their lights off, and block indoor light from reaching outside the
building, to prevent turtle hatchlings from being attracted to away
from the sea to their deaths on land.

In the area where I live, ordinances, with fines and other
penalties attached, mandate that lights falling outside the property
line, security lights, coachlights, even your auto's headlights
while the vehicle is on the property, must be turned off.

On the other hand, in the event of a power failure, a local
community has an HOA that requires by covenant, with fines attached,
that homeowners, renters, or guests who are generator equipped must
share a minimum of 30% of their total continuous generating capacity
with homeowners, renters or guests, who are not generator equipped,
whether the owner of the generator can meet his/her own needs while
sharing, or not.

Your point about the Constitutional guarantee of Free Speech, and
the nature of Free Speech, is well made.

But, governments, local and otherwise, have few limits should
they desire to escape them.














[email protected] January 3rd 11 07:03 PM

Common-Sense-R-Us : Bring Fairness and Balance{Conservative-Eq...
 
You beat me to that one, D. Peter Maus.I was going to say, The fed govt
can do any damn thing they please, and they are getting away with it
too!

Mostly so, anyway.

The Russian Ten Planks.
cuhulin


[email protected] January 3rd 11 07:20 PM

Common-Sense-R-Us : Bring Fairness and Balance{Conservative-Eq...
 
You said it is snowing? Oh, dooooooo tellllll.
(she don't know anything) He looked outside, snowing EVERYWHERE!

Currently, 51 degrees inside my flowerbox on doggy's front porch, and
LOTS of Luverly SUNSHINE.

It's such a beautiful day todayyyyy,,,, look at the SUNSHINE,,,,,,,

Say cuzz, where is Devilfinder's (the search engine company) home base,
physical location? Only mildly wondering.

We got Close Encounters of the Third Kind crankin up right now on the
EDRA channel.
cuhulin


[email protected] January 3rd 11 07:39 PM

Common-Sense-R-Us : Bring Fairness and Balance{Conservative-Eq...
 
What Ayn Rand said.

http://www.devilfinder.com
There has never been a philosophy Ayn Rand

Also, devilfinder.com
Will Rogers Quotes
cuhulin


MnMikew January 3rd 11 07:55 PM

Republicans put car thief in charge of investigating Obama
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
On 01/04/2011 02:37 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 1/3/11 12:36 , China Blue Ribbon wrote:

When someone claims the most corrupt adminstration, they don't get the
benefit
of the doubt.



Thank God you're not an officer of the Court.



There is no God. If there was we'd be nuclear glass.

Where is Issa's brother? Is he being held incommunicado like Dan Quayle's
pot connection?


He's probably in jail.....for stealing cars....



[email protected] January 3rd 11 08:15 PM

Republicans put car thief in charge of investigating Obama
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
Dan Quayle didn't know how to spell Potato.

I spell it Potato, always have.
cuhulin


[email protected] January 3rd 11 09:42 PM

Republicans put car thief in charge of investigating Obama
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
Damaged Gulf Stream Affects Jet Stream

http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html

Gulf Stream is BROKEN!
cuhulin


D Peter Maus[_2_] January 3rd 11 10:46 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/3/11 16:26 , wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, wrote:

There is no scarcity of light. The radio spectrum is part of the
commons, same as the air and the sidewalks downtown.


"WE' own that spectrum, and WE have determined that using OUR
"spectrum" for promotion of lies, distortion, slander and political
ignorance MUST be regulated.


If those are your criteria, then no political speech of any kind
would be permitted.

Here's the razor: The Constitutional guarantee of free speech is
specifically intended to protect speech which is not popular and/or is
critical of the leaders or political entities in or out of power.

This speech is guaranteed protection precisely BECAUSE it's not
popular, and/or critical of the political entities in or out of power.
Popular speech and/or supportive speech of those in power needs no
protection. Because it's popular. Because it's supportive of Power. And
the founding fathers, having escaped from a land where any speech on a
whim could be made a criminal offense, specifically sought to protect
the freedom by each citizen to speak his/her mind without fear of
retribution in both public or private venues.

To silence speech, for any political reason, is contrary to this
Constitutional guarantee.

Even if it's "promotion of lies, distortion, slander and political
ignorance."



dave January 3rd 11 11:22 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 01/03/2011 02:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, wrote:

There is no scarcity of light. The radio spectrum is part of the
commons, same as the air and the sidewalks downtown.


"WE' own that spectrum, and WE have determined that using OUR
"spectrum" for promotion of lies, distortion, slander and political
ignorance MUST be regulated.


I call that "self defense"!

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 3rd 11 11:29 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/3/2011 6:22 PM, dave wrote:
On 01/03/2011 02:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, wrote:

There is no scarcity of light. The radio spectrum is part of the
commons, same as the air and the sidewalks downtown.


"WE' own that spectrum, and WE have determined that using OUR
"spectrum" for promotion of lies, distortion, slander and political
ignorance MUST be regulated.


I call that "self defense"!



I call it infringing on my right to listen to what ever I want, now will
you also demand that an auditorium filled with people allow equal
heckling when one side heckles more than the other....?

RHF January 3rd 11 11:37 PM

Fairness-and-Balance-R-Us : Demands "Equal-Air-Time" For ConservativeVoices On NPR 'Affiliated' Public Radio Stations
 
On Jan 2, 1:46*pm, dave wrote:

- - On 01/03/2011 12:28 PM, RHF wrote:
- - Just keeping everything fair and balanced with
- - their being Six (6) times as many NPR FM
- - Radio Stations as AM Talk Radio Stations.

- There are 273 NPR stations in the USA.
- EIB alone has twice as many affiliates, dumbass.
-
- http://www.cephas-library.moc/nwo_re...odcasting.html

'Special-Dave' There Are "NO" National Public Radio
[NPR] Stations in the USA. NPR Owns "NO" Radio
Stations : The 'Local' Public Radio Stations that
'choose' to Affiliate with NPR and Broadcast NPR
Programming {Pure 100% Liberal Propaganda} are
in the Many Many Hundreds {Thousands?}.

'Special-Dave' : Keep Pumping Out the Liberal Lies.

The FCC Numbers Don't Lie : There are Six (6) Times
as many NPR 'Affiliated' FM Public Radio Stations
as AM Talk Radio Stations.

[email protected] January 3rd 11 11:38 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
The Origin of Dogs Biogenetic Engineering New Dawn Magazine

Building Codes?
cuhulin


[email protected] January 3rd 11 11:51 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
http://www.twainquotes.com

Somebody in the rec.tech.autos newsgroup posted that one.
cuhulin


Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 4th 11 12:25 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/3/2011 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, dave wrote:

There is no scarcity of light.


Sure there is, I have light in my yard and the neighbors and if I place
a light that shines on them that they don't want then those waves must
be regulated by the FCC and we also have light waves that transmit
digital information in their light pulse, so we could transmit
information and receive information over the light directed at the
neighbor and the neighbors lights or others lights could interfere with
light transmission of information on or across my property.


The FCC will need to regulate the lights on your property. And they
will also need to regulate content of information transmitted so that it
is all equal and NOT one sided.





Clave[_3_] January 4th 11 12:32 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 

"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...
On 1/3/2011 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, dave wrote:

There is no scarcity of light.


Sure there is, I have light in my yard and the neighbors and if I place
a light that shines on them that they don't want then those waves must
be regulated by the FCC and we also have light waves that transmit
digital information in their light pulse, so we could transmit
information and receive information over the light directed at the
neighbor and the neighbors lights or others lights could interfere with
light transmission of information on or across my property.


The FCC will need to regulate the lights on your property. And they
will also need to regulate content of information transmitted so that it
is all equal and NOT one sided.


Wow.

There really is *no* issue that you can't reduce to the least common stupid.



Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 4th 11 12:45 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/2/2011 10:57 PM, dave wrote:
On 01/04/2011 02:38 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

You and I have "free speech" and if you want to use it on any media, all
it takes is money. If you want free speech that costs zero then get soap
box and stand in the town square. The Air waves don't belong to this
Nation any more than Germany owns the airwaves, does the government also
own all the limited light waves?

You said you can have all the free speech you can afford; that's nuts.
AM and FM radio are the soap box and the town square of today.


NO the soap box is still the soap box of today and Radio is a commercial
enterprise discovered and invented by private persons.
Government didn't have a clue radio waves were even useful.

The 14th
Amendment of the Constitution guarantees equal access to that town
square. The oligarchs must control all thought to prevail. You are
helping them.


That isn't a town square and the 14 says equal under the law.... there
is no power given to congress to make any law and therefore no 14th
amendment applied to radio waves.

There is no scarcity of light. The radio spectrum is part of the
commons, same as the air and the sidewalks downtown.


Light spectrum is scarce, if I use infrared on my property for one thing
then it could easily interfere with security or infrared cameras and
sensors elsewhere. lasers will transmit infrared for a long ways and
some lasers can burn and do damage to eyes and other things like CCDs.





dave January 4th 11 01:23 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 01/05/2011 12:32 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:


Submission to tyranny as inevitable is as much a crime as the tyranny,
itself.

Citadel Broadcasting has shrunk your brain to the size of a walnut.

The only tyranny threatening the USA is the unregulated corporation
nonster tyranny.

"The other part of the story is the development of corporations, which
is an interesting story in itself. Adam Smith didn't say much about
them, but he did criticize the early stages of them. Jefferson lived
long enough to see the beginnings, and he was very strongly opposed to
them. But the development of corporations really took place in the early
twentieth century and very late in the nineteenth century. Originally,
corporations existed as a public service. People would get together to
build a bridge and they would be incorporated for that purpose by the
state. They built the bridge and that's it. They were supposed to have a
public interest function. Well into the 1870s, states were removing
corporate charters. They were granted by the state. They didn't have any
other authority. They were fictions. They were removing corporate
charters because they weren't serving a public function. But then you
get into the period of the trusts and various efforts to consolidate
power that were beginning to be made in the late nineteenth century.
It's interesting to look at the literature. The courts didn't really
accept it. There were some hints about it. It wasn't until the early
twentieth century that courts and lawyers designed a new socioeconomic
system. It was never done by legislation. It was done mostly by courts
and lawyers and the power they could exercise over individual states.
New Jersey was the first state to offer corporations any right they
wanted. Of course, all the capital in the country suddenly started to
flow to New Jersey, for obvious reasons. Then the other states had to do
the same thing just to defend themselves or be wiped out. It's kind of a
small-scale globalization. Then the courts and the corporate lawyers
came along and created a whole new body of doctrine which gave
corporations authority and power that they never had before. If you look
at the background of it, it's the same background that led to fascism
and Bolshevism. A lot of it was supported by people called progressives,
for these reasons: They said, individual rights are gone. We are in a
period of corporatization of power, consolidation of power,
centralization. That's supposed to be good if you're a progressive, like
a Marxist-Leninist. Out of that same background came three major things:
fascism, Bolshevism, and corporate tyranny. They all grew out of the
same more or less Hegelian roots. It's fairly recent. We think of
corporations as immutable, but they were designed. It was a conscious
design which worked as Adam Smith said: the principal architects of
policy consolidate state power and use it for their interests. It was
certainly not popular will. It's basically court decisions and lawyers'
decisions, which created a form of private tyranny which is now more
massive in many ways than even state tyranny was. These are major parts
of modern twentieth century history. The classical liberals would be
horrified. They didn't even imagine this. But the smaller things that
they saw, they were already horrified about. This would have totally
scandalized Adam Smith or Jefferson or anyone like that...."
-noam chomsky

dave January 4th 11 01:27 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 01/05/2011 01:03 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
On 1/4/2011 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:09:36 -0600, "D. Peter Maus"


Again, if those are your criteria, then no political speech of
any kind would be permitted.


How is that consistent with accepted law?

You don't have the right to broadcast things that could cause panic
(yell "fire" in a theater), that's a regulated activity


But pulling the fire alarm is OK......


The courts say broadcasters have the right to lie to you. That is
something that screams for a common sense legislative remedy, as part of
a bigger effort to make the radio airwaves more responsive to the needs
of their listeners.

D. Peter Maus[_2_] January 4th 11 05:09 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/3/11 22:33 , wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:46:34 -0600, D Peter
wrote:

On 1/3/11 16:26 ,
wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, wrote:

There is no scarcity of light. The radio spectrum is part of the
commons, same as the air and the sidewalks downtown.

"WE' own that spectrum, and WE have determined that using OUR
"spectrum" for promotion of lies, distortion, slander and political
ignorance MUST be regulated.


If those are your criteria, then no political speech of any kind
would be permitted.


"we" do that by a rule of law

There is NO "absolute right" to anything


Again, if those are your criteria, then no political speech of
any kind would be permitted.

Kind of self defeating.


Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 4th 11 06:06 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/3/2011 11:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 19:25:22 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

On 1/3/2011 5:26 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, dave wrote:

There is no scarcity of light.


Sure there is, I have light in my yard


A red light, no doubt


There are poor kids with no light in their back yards, should you pass a
law to make it equal....?

[email protected] January 4th 11 06:09 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
Orpah's OWN
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=300898
cuhulin


Clave[_3_] January 4th 11 06:15 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 

"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...
On 1/3/2011 11:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 19:25:22 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

On 1/3/2011 5:26 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, dave wrote:

There is no scarcity of light.

Sure there is, I have light in my yard


A red light, no doubt


There are poor kids with no light in their back yards, should you pass a
law to make it equal....?


You've got no light in your empty god-damned head. No law will help that.

--
"Lie some more, ****head
I do it all the time"
-- Beldin the Obvious



RHF January 4th 11 06:48 AM

Making National Public Radio [NPR] Accountable To All The People :Not Just A 'Liberal' Bullhorn !
 
On Jan 3, 1:29*am, dave wrote:
On 01/04/2011 07:29 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:



On 1/3/2011 6:22 PM, dave wrote:
On 01/03/2011 02:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, * wrote:


There is no scarcity of light. The radio spectrum is part of the
commons, same as the air and the sidewalks downtown.


"WE' own that spectrum, and WE have determined that using OUR
"spectrum" for promotion of lies, distortion, slander and political
ignorance MUST be regulated.


I call that "self defense"!


I call it infringing on my right to listen to what ever I want, now will
you also demand that an auditorium filled with people allow equal
heckling when one side heckles more than the other....?


- There is no shortage of right wing reactionary opinion on the radio.

'Special-Dave' -the-other-half-of-the-story-
There is no shortage of Left Wing Radical Opinion
on NPR 'Public' Radio.

- There are entire states without progressive radio.

'Special-Dave' -the-other-half-of-the-story-
There are entire States without Conservative Radio.

- How does this serve the people?

'Special-Dave' -the-other-half-of-the-story-
How Does NPR Serve All The People?
* Including Conservatives.

- Is everyone in Texas a Republican?

'Special-Dave' -the-other-half-of-the-story-
Is everyone in CA; NY; MA; CT; NJ etc a Liberal ?

- The public airwaves belong to all the people,

'Special-Dave' -the-other-half-of-the-story-
The Public NPR Air-Waves Belong To All The People,
* Not Just Pure 100% Liberal Propaganda 24/7.

- not just Clear Channel and Citadel's friends.

'Special-Dave' -the-other-half-of-the-story-
Not Just NPR [CPB] and Liberal Elitists Oligarchs

RHF January 4th 11 07:14 AM

Bring Down The National Public Radio [NPR] Liberal-Progressive'Elitist' Oligarchy
 
On Jan 3, 1:35*am, dave wrote:
On 01/04/2011 07:37 AM, RHF wrote:



- There are 273 NPR stations in the USA.
- EIB alone has twice as many affiliates, dumbass.
-
-http://www.cephas-library.moc/nwo_religious_braodcasting.html


The FCC Numbers Don't Lie : There are Six (6) Times
as many NPR 'Affiliated' FM Public Radio Stations
as AM Talk Radio Stations.
* .


- Show me where this is written.
- Most NCE licenses are for religious broadcasters
- and their network of satellite fed "translators".
- They far outnumber NPR stations.

'Special-Dave' one National 'Public' Radio [NPR]
Radio Station That Is NOT Fair and Balanced :
Is One Too Many [.]

'Special-Dave' first you Attack AM Talk Radio Broadcasters.
-when- The Issue Is Fairness and Balance At NPR !
* National 'Public' Radio [NPR] should Serve All The
'Public' -not-just- Liberals, Progressives & Elitists.
Give Conservative Voices Equal Time At NPR !

Now 'Special-Dave' you try to deflect to NCE Religious
Radio Stations and attempt to Blame [GOD] Them.
-when- The Issue Is Fairness and Balance At NPR* !
* National Public Radio {Tax Payer} should Serve All
The Public -not-just- Liberals, Progressives & Elitists.

'Special-Dave' -back-to-the-issue-
Making National Public Radio [NPR] Accountable
To All The People : Not Just A 'Liberal' Bullhorn !
of the Elitist Oligarchy of Progressive Oppressors.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f991a128bef242
NPR : DO IT NOW !
WHEN DO WE WANT IT ! =NOW=
WHAT DO WE WANT . . . FAIRNESS ! {Both Sides}
WHAT DO WE WANT . . . BALANCE ! {The Conservative View-Point}
WHAT DO WE WANT . . . EQUAL AIR-TIME !
WHAT DO WE WANT . . . CONSERVATIVE VOICES !
WHEN DO WE WANT THEM ? =NOW=
-end-the-liberal-monopoly-at-npr-now-

RHF January 4th 11 07:22 AM

Slanted-R-Us : Liberal Lies and Half-Truths {Omissions} . . . Plus'The Facts' According To Liberals !
 
On Jan 3, 7:34*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 1/2/2011 5:00 PM, dave wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...6/25/ISSA.TMP&....


- - He also has a history of steroid use and
- - crying in public. Him and the Boner should
- - get along real well.

- What a total Bull **** post ...
- he was charged and never prosecuted,
- charges dropped ... what crap ...

-remember- 'Special-Dave' -believes-
"Facts Have A Liberal Bias"
-therefore-it-goes-to-say-
Liberals Have A Right To 'Bias' The Facts.

Liberal Lies and Half-Truths {Omissions} . . .
Plus 'The Facts' According To Liberals !

MnMikew January 4th 11 05:10 PM

Republicans put car thief in charge of investigating Obama
 

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 1/2/2011 5:00 PM, dave wrote:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...SSA.TMP&ao=all

He also has a history of steroid use and crying in public. Him and the
Boner should get along real well.


What a total Bull **** post ... he was charged and never prosecuted,
charges dropped ... what crap ...

So, you don't like Issa and are desperate for chit to throw at him, huh?

ROFLOL

Just goes to show you, some morons don't read the links before posting
chit ... or responding to BS posts ...

Regards,
JS

Davey takes his marching orders directly from DailyKOS



MnMikew January 4th 11 05:10 PM

Republicans put car thief in charge of investigating Obama
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
On 01/04/2011 11:34 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 1/2/2011 5:00 PM, dave wrote:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...SSA.TMP&ao=all


He also has a history of steroid use and crying in public. Him and the
Boner should get along real well.


What a total Bull **** post ... he was charged and never prosecuted,
charges dropped ... what crap ...

So, you don't like Issa and are desperate for chit to throw at him, huh?

ROFLOL

Just goes to show you, some morons don't read the links before posting
chit ... or responding to BS posts ...

Regards,
JS


I can tell a crook by looking at a man's face. Issa is a turd.


Best not look in a mirror.



John Smith January 4th 11 05:21 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/3/2011 1:44 PM, dave wrote:

...
I am the friggin' Creator! I have all the rights I choose to fight for.
And it's ****ing "UNalienable rights"!


In your case, it is UNintelligent ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith January 4th 11 05:24 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/3/2011 4:42 PM, dave wrote:

...
LMAO!!!


Wrong on every account ... only fools make such a mockery of themselves
and work to completely destroy their credibility ... good job moron.

Regards,
JS

John Smith January 4th 11 05:32 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/2011 8:27 AM, wrote:

...
And nothing in the constitution supports a claim that "rights" are
absolute.


You are one amazingly stupid dunce ... ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

John Smith January 4th 11 05:34 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/2011 9:03 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

...
You don't have the right to broadcast things that could cause panic
(yell "fire" in a theater), that's a regulated activity


But pulling the fire alarm is OK......


Dunce, you ABSOLUTELY have a right to YELL FIRE in a theater, if there
REALLY IS A FIRE! Informing the public, telling the truth, attempting
to save life, etc. is totally legal ... falsely calling fire is a crime!

Regards,
JS

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 4th 11 05:43 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/3/2011 5:55 AM, dave wrote:
On 01/04/2011 09:58 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:


Where is that "right to know when they're hearing lies"?


It must have been deleted from my copy of the constitution, please
post it.


Why didn't Obama have a subtitles for all his speeches explaining that
these were just politician's lies.


Are you saying we have no rights except those in the Constitution?
That's not what the Constitution says.



I'm saying that "ALL" powers the government has come from the
constitution and ALL laws come from the powers given in the constitution
so the government has no power to create rights.... rights are created
with the constitution not with extra constitutional laws derived from
judges interpreting laws.

The only constitutional process, is to change the Constitution to add
powers to the Federal government. Any power given to the Federal
Government is a power/right taken from the people since "all" powers NOT
given to the Federal government already belongs to the States or the People.





Our form of government can't work without healthy public discussion of
the issues of the day,


Is that why we weren't allowed to read the Health care laws and all 2000
pages of unconstitutional laws.


free from the distortion of moneyed interests
buying favor.


What is wrong with people with money being interested.....


That is why media monopolies offend people who care about
our form of government.


The reason media Monopolies are offensive is that they try to suppress
their competition.... The Liberals had a monopoly on the media NETWORKS
for decades. And they wrote laws to keep others from access to other
media. The problem arises when we have corrupt politicians.

Business is supposed to try to grow and stay strong, government is NOT
supposed to be connected to the business or money from private industry.

People should be exposed to opposing viewpoints,


NO.... people should be able to seek or write and speak opposing view
points with their own money.

regardless of the bubble they are comfortable in. We are a society, not
a collection of individuals. Ayn Rand is dead.


We are "NOT all Married" to each other or to the government.

So "what yours is mine, and what's mine is mine" does NOT extend to
society even though it is a tenet of Marriage.


[email protected] January 4th 11 05:54 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
And don't holler MAYDAY! unless it is the real deal.
cuhulin


Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 4th 11 05:57 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/3/2011 8:27 PM, dave wrote:
On 01/05/2011 01:03 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
On 1/4/2011 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:09:36 -0600, "D. Peter Maus"


Again, if those are your criteria, then no political speech of
any kind would be permitted.

How is that consistent with accepted law?

You don't have the right to broadcast things that could cause panic
(yell "fire" in a theater), that's a regulated activity


But pulling the fire alarm is OK......


The courts say broadcasters have the right to lie to you. That is
something that screams for a common sense legislative remedy, as part of
a bigger effort to make the radio airwaves more responsive to the needs
of their listeners.


You have learned NOTHING from your Liberal Masters "Grasshopper" the
children can *NOT* be stopped from having sex, and broadcasters can
*NOT* be stopped from lying. You give the children condoms in school
rather than trying to pass Legislation to stop them from having sex.

You need to give the children of the radio-waves their condoms because
they will have sex no matter what you do.


Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still.


Grasshopper, it will be time for you leave us when you can snatch these
concepts from the cosmos....








John Smith January 4th 11 05:59 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/2011 9:43 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

...
I'm saying that "ALL" powers the government has come from the
constitution and ALL laws come from the powers given in the constitution
so the government has no power to create rights.... rights are created
with the constitution not with extra constitutional laws derived from
judges interpreting laws.

The only constitutional process, is to change the Constitution to add
powers to the Federal government. Any power given to the Federal
Government is a power/right taken from the people since "all" powers NOT
given to the Federal government already belongs to the States or the People.
...


ALL of governments powers come from the people, who grant them the
authority in order to fulfill the peoples wishes. The Constitution is
the document which allows this to occur.

If either the peoples granting of power or the Constitution is missing,
the government IMMEDIATELY becomes an illegal government ... at this
point the solution is simply, remove the
criminally-treasonous-public-servants from the offices they are
illegally occupying and restore the people right of self-governance.

Regards,
JS

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 4th 11 06:02 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/3/2011 8:27 PM, dave wrote:
On 01/05/2011 01:03 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
On 1/4/2011 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:09:36 -0600, "D. Peter Maus"


Again, if those are your criteria, then no political speech of
any kind would be permitted.

How is that consistent with accepted law?

You don't have the right to broadcast things that could cause panic
(yell "fire" in a theater), that's a regulated activity


But pulling the fire alarm is OK......


The courts say broadcasters have the right to lie to you.


The constitution says they have that right.....


The courts have no power over the constitution.


That is
something that screams for a common sense legislative remedy,


You can't legislate Morality, that's why you Liberals don't stop kids
from having sex with "Legislation" but instead give them condoms.


as part of
a bigger effort to make the radio airwaves more responsive to the needs
of their listeners.


Their listeners have dials and knobs to do that. You can't get more
responsive than the listener tuning you out or turning you off.




D Peter Maus[_2_] January 4th 11 06:16 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/11 11:59 , John Smith wrote:
On 1/4/2011 9:43 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

...
I'm saying that "ALL" powers the government has come from the
constitution and ALL laws come from the powers given in the constitution
so the government has no power to create rights.... rights are created
with the constitution not with extra constitutional laws derived from
judges interpreting laws.

The only constitutional process, is to change the Constitution to add
powers to the Federal government. Any power given to the Federal
Government is a power/right taken from the people since "all" powers NOT
given to the Federal government already belongs to the States or the
People.
...


ALL of governments powers come from the people, who grant them the
authority in order to fulfill the peoples wishes. The Constitution is
the document which allows this to occur.\


The Constitution allows the government to exist. A better way to make
your point is to say the Constitution acknowledges that government
powers come from the people, and that the Constitution protects the
rights of the people from usurpation of this power.




If either the peoples granting of power or the Constitution is missing,
the government IMMEDIATELY becomes an illegal government ... at this
point the solution is simply, remove the
criminally-treasonous-public-servants from the offices they are
illegally occupying and restore the people right of self-governance.

Regards,
JS



John Smith January 4th 11 06:21 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/2011 10:16 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:

...
ALL of governments powers come from the people, who grant them the
authority in order to fulfill the peoples wishes. The Constitution is
the document which allows this to occur.\


The Constitution allows the government to exist. A better way to make
your point is to say the Constitution acknowledges that government
powers come from the people, and that the Constitution protects the
rights of the people from usurpation of this power.
...


Write it anyway you wish, or repeat what others have already written ...
that is the way it is ... guns, gold, God, food, shelter, medicine, etc.
and an insistence to be free! It all comes down to, "Are you a man or
are you a mouse?"

Regards,
JS


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