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MnMikew January 4th 11 07:33 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 

"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...

Their listeners have dials and knobs to do that. You can't get more
responsive than the listener tuning you out or turning you off.


Liberals want speech shut down they don't like. Period.



[email protected] January 4th 11 08:17 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
We got a whole lot of Our Gang movies crankin up this evening at 7:00
PM, TCM channel.All the way to around 6:30 PM tomorrow evening.
Spanky and the Gang.
HOG Heaven!

Alfalfa had somehow swallowed some soap, he was singing, Believe me if
all these enduring young charms, and a Frog in his pocket was going
crazy.
Believe Me If All Thease Enduring Young Charms.
http://www.contemplator.com/ireland/believe.html
http://www.contemplator.com/midimusic/charms.mid

It is Piano too.
cuhulin


RHF January 4th 11 08:40 PM

Republicans To Being Investigating Obama Regime Corruption : Insider
 
On Jan 3, 1:34*pm, dave wrote:
On 01/04/2011 11:34 AM, John Smith wrote:



On 1/2/2011 5:00 PM, dave wrote:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...6/25/ISSA.TMP&....


He also has a history of steroid use and crying in public. Him and the
Boner should get along real well.


What a total Bull **** post ... he was charged and never prosecuted,
charges dropped ... what crap ...


So, you don't like Issa and are desperate for chit to throw at him, huh?


ROFLOL


Just goes to show you, some morons don't read the links before posting
chit ... or responding to BS posts ...


Regards,
JS


- I can tell a crook by looking at a man's face.
- Issa is a turd.

'Special-Dave' : Hey that's sort of like...
Looking in a Mirror for 'You' ;;-}} ~ RHF

RHF January 4th 11 09:41 PM

The US Constitution a Blueprint of US Rights and Building Code for US Laws
 
On Jan 3, 1:44*pm, dave wrote:
On 01/04/2011 12:48 PM, John Smith wrote:

On 1/3/2011 8:33 PM, wrote:


...
There is NO "absolute right" to anything


"As Hamilton stated, under the American philosophy and system of
constitutionally limited government, "the people surrender nothing;"
instead, they merely delegate to government--to public servants as
public trustees--limited powers and therefore, he added, "they have no
need of particular reservations" (in a Bill of Rights). This is the
basic reason why the Framing Convention omitted from the Constitution
anything in the nature of a separate Bill of Rights, as being unnecessary."


FROM HE
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/Am...stick/pr3.html


The above goes into a lot more detail, the whole page(s) should be read..


Preamble to the Declaration of Independence:
"When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people
to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,
and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal
station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a
decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should
declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
2.1 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable
rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.."


FROM HE
http://www.wfu.edu/~zulick/340/Declaration.html


Indeed we DO possess inalienable rights ... and you are a fool ... what
rock to do such moronic idiots and imbeciles, such as yourself, crawl
out from under?


- Hamilton was the first republican asshole
- (or was it Adams?).

'Special-Dave' ! "asshole" !
-remember- Every 'Body' Needs One !
-and- The 'Body-Politics' Is No Exception !
Democrats & Republicans; etc etc etc
Liberals & Conservatives; etc etc etc
Deep-Thinkers & Know-Nothings; etc etc etc

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 4th 11 09:53 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/2011 3:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:03:31 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

You don't have the right to broadcast things that could cause panic
(yell "fire" in a theater), that's a regulated activity


But pulling the fire alarm is OK......


No--not when there isn't a fire

Limpballs peddles fear, greed, corrupted history, and stupidity to a
segment of society least capable of using their intellect.

Hitler appealed to those kind---and innovated the means of selling it
to them

Just like Limpballs.


Hitler had power, Limbaugh has no power.

Apples and Oranges.



If you want to look at two in the same seat look at Hitler and Obama.

Obama loves and believes in Redistribution, Hitler loved and believed in
redistribution.

Obama takes from Capitalists and gives to his Socialist pals, Hitler
would take from the Jews and give to the Aryans who were his pals.

Obama wants to say who gets health care and who dies and Hitler liked
saying who got health care and who he herded into gas chambers.

Obama and his ilk believe power comes from the barrel of a gun and
Hitler believed that power came from the barrel of his guns.




RHF January 4th 11 10:02 PM

Bring Down The National Public Radio [NPR] Liberal-Progressive'Elitist' Oligarchy
 
On Jan 3, 1:54*pm, dave wrote:
On 01/04/2011 02:48 PM, RHF wrote:

* - There is no shortage of right wing reactionary opinion on the radio.
*
* 'Special-Dave' -the-other-half-of-the-story-
* There is no shortage of Left Wing Radical Opinion
* on NPR 'Public' Radio.
*
* - There are entire states without progressive radio.
*
* 'Special-Dave' -the-other-half-of-the-story-
* There are entire States without Conservative Radio.
*


- A couple of problems here.
- Roy assumes we accept that NPR
- is some kind of liberal advocate,
- yet cannot, in over 3 years of asserting so,
- produce any example of this.

'Special-Dave',

All The Proof There Is : Is In The Listening :
To Those With An Open Mind*

* Un-Tinted By Liberal Propaganda
-aka- Un-Biased By Liberalism & Progressivism {Elitism}
-wrt- Un-Altered By National Public Radio [NPR] Indoctrination
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e920a863b7cab3

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 4th 11 10:02 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/2011 3:03 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 09:32:28 -0800, John Smith
wrote:

On 1/4/2011 8:27 AM,
wrote:

...
And nothing in the constitution supports a claim that "rights" are
absolute.


You are one amazingly stupid dunce ... ROFLOL


Go yell "fire" in a theater---then get back to me.


You can yell "fire" when there is a fire... and if you cause death with
a prank, it's not the free speech that is illegal it's the motive of the
speech that was intended to hurt people that is illegal.

Guns are legal, you still can't kill people randomly.... so you can say
what you want up until you use it to infringe on someone else's rights
by causing their death.

You can't tell a blind person that there is no bus coming and kill them
by lying and doing it to murder them....

But the words themselves are NOT and never will be illegal. Just your
motive when you used them. Just like using your guns.





dxAce January 4th 11 10:30 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 


MNMikew wrote:

"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...

Their listeners have dials and knobs to do that. You can't get more
responsive than the listener tuning you out or turning you off.


Liberals want speech shut down they don't like. Period.


And if the Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists don't like it here, they can go
to CanaDuh, and suck off that teat till it runs dry.



[email protected] January 4th 11 10:54 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
A brand new Disney Cruise Ship arrived at Port Canaveral,Florida
today/last night.Good old Capitalism.
It is, or used to be, the only Ships built in Russia were Military
Ships.
Stephanie Bell Flynt and Barbie Bassett were just now talking about
Pismo Beach erosion, WLBT 3 tee vee 4:30 PM news.
cuhulin


[email protected] January 4th 11 10:59 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
Pismo Beach erosion

Where in California is Pismo Beach? I am too Lazy to dig out my Rand
McNally.
cuhulin


[email protected] January 4th 11 11:12 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
Watching 5:00 PM WLBT 3 tee vee news.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Smith County,Mississippi has the highest risk of tornados than any other
Counties in the United States

That is what Bert Case said, he didn't say devilfinder.com though.

The three deadliest tornados in recorded history happened in
Mississippi.

Dixie Alley? First time I have heard of that before.I reckon they had to
tack some kind of a name on that.Smith County isn't far South of doggy's
couch.
cuhulin


dave January 5th 11 12:42 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 01/04/2011 01:26 PM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 1/4/11 14:57 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 1/4/11 10:19 , wrote:

Sorry, but it's a philosophical statement. Federalist papers are not
law


On 1/4/2011 11:22 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:

The Constitution, however, is.


And as George W. Bush so famously put it, the Constitution is...nothing
more than a piece of paper.

Heck of a statement, Georgie!


Actually, that story was debunked years ago.

When? Where?

[email protected] January 5th 11 12:47 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
G.W.Bush said something to the affect/effect, Stop waving that piece of
paper in front of me!
cuhulin


dave January 5th 11 12:47 AM

The US Constitution a Blueprint of US Rights and Building Codefor US Laws
 
On 01/04/2011 01:41 PM, RHF wrote:
-aka- The Grand Exalted AssHole [@] of the Posteri Maximus !


It's a total 180 from the DOC to the Constitution. From self-evident and
unalienable to "here's a list of some apparently not so self-evident
rights which aren't all of them."

[email protected] January 5th 11 01:00 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin271.htm

http://www.devilfinder.com
What did G.W.Bush say about the United States Constitution?

G.W.Bush is NOT a Republican, Certainly NOT a Real Republican.He is a
Damn liberal.

I can tape a Republican card to my dog's dog collar.Would that mean she
is a card carrying Republican?
I don't think dogs think about that.
cuhulin


[email protected] January 5th 11 01:51 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
Fatty, proposing to Miss Crabtree ~ Our Gang on TCM.Fatty is a
smooooooth operator.
cuhulin


Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 5th 11 02:40 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/2011 9:37 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:53:19 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

On 1/4/2011 3:05 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:03:31 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

You don't have the right to broadcast things that could cause panic
(yell "fire" in a theater), that's a regulated activity

But pulling the fire alarm is OK......

No--not when there isn't a fire

Limpballs peddles fear, greed, corrupted history, and stupidity to a
segment of society least capable of using their intellect.

Hitler appealed to those kind---and innovated the means of selling it
to them

Just like Limpballs.


Hitler had power, Limbaugh has no power.


He's got the same mush-brained army of dolts that Hitler had in the
late 20's



Every day you call them stupid Limbaugh misfits, but today they are an
army that equals the one that almost took the world.....

D Peter Maus[_2_] January 5th 11 03:22 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/11 20:38 , wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:26:02 -0600, D Peter
wrote:

On 1/4/11 14:57 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 1/4/11 10:19 ,
wrote:

Sorry, but it's a philosophical statement. Federalist papers are not
law

On 1/4/2011 11:22 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:

The Constitution, however, is.

And as George W. Bush so famously put it, the Constitution is...nothing
more than a piece of paper.

Heck of a statement, Georgie!


Actually, that story was debunked years ago.


No---I don't think so



Yes, it was. Often. Even Mathews reported that it wasn't true. And he
was one of Bush's most outspoken opponents.



D Peter Maus[_2_] January 5th 11 03:24 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/11 20:42 , wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:33:07 -0600, "D. Peter Maus"
wrote:

Read it. Read the Federalist Papers, while you're at it.

THe constittution is a rule of law.



The Constitution is a rule of law. That law limits the power of
Government, and specifically guarantees the rights of the people.


The constitution is the framework of our republic, predicated on a set
of philosophical foundations, and establishes a consistent rule of
law.

The interpretation of it related
to enacted or codified law has allowed those "right" to be terminated,
modified, or regulated.


Interpretation allows its intent to be ignored.


The belief of an interpretation like that is to deny the foundation of
the constitution and 300 Yrs of established law.



Interpretation presupposes that an intent other than the text of the
document is required.

By definition, an interpretation is an inaccurate understanding, and
allows the intent of the text to be ignored.




Submission to tyranny as inevitable is as much a crime as the
tyranny, itself.

The federalist papers are not law--they carry NO legal weight


The Supremes disagree.


There is no USSC decision that any federalist paper provides legal
foundation to.


They were cited in the recent 2nd Amendment decision.


[email protected] January 5th 11 03:27 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
Electromagnetic Test Soviet Test 184
cuhulin


[email protected] January 5th 11 03:36 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
MFJ Wi Fi Antenna rec.radio.shortwave

(March 19, 2009)

I did say I don't know why I ordered that antenna.Something to spend my
money on, I reckon.
cuhulin


dave January 5th 11 05:32 AM

George W. Bush is an aristocrat dunce
 
On 01/05/2011 11:28 PM, MNMikew wrote:
wrote in message



Actually, that story was debunked years ago.

When? Where?


http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...itution_a.html



"unlikely" hardly screams that it's false. I say it's 50/50. Neither
bunked nor debunked.

dave January 5th 11 05:34 AM

Never get caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy
 
On 01/06/2011 12:03 AM, wrote:
Looks like Fatty Arbuckle in some of the Our Gang/Little Rascals old
movies on TCM.

I bet y'all never heard of him before.I remember back in the 1940's when
I lived in Carthage,Missy Sippi, some people were talking about Fatty
Arbuckle.

One time about eleven years ago, I asked that married Irish woman
wayyyyyyy over yonder across the big pond if she has ever heard of Fatty
Arbuckle.She said, Of course I have!
cuhulin


..

[email protected] January 5th 11 06:45 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On Jan 4, 4:53*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 1/4/2011 3:05 PM, wrote:





On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:03:31 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


You don't have the right to broadcast things that could cause panic
(yell "fire" in a theater), that's a regulated activity


But pulling the fire alarm is OK......


No--not when there isn't a fire


Limpballs peddles fear, greed, corrupted history, and stupidity to a
segment of society least capable of using their intellect.


Hitler appealed to those kind---and innovated the means of selling it
to them


Just like Limpballs.


Hitler had power, Limbaugh has no power.

Apples and Oranges.

If you want to look at two in the same seat look at Hitler and Obama.

Obama loves and believes in Redistribution, Hitler loved and believed in
redistribution.

Obama takes from Capitalists and gives to his Socialist pals, Hitler
would take from the Jews and give to the Aryans who were his pals.

Obama wants to say who gets health care and who dies and Hitler liked
saying who got health care and who he herded into gas chambers.

Obama and his ilk believe power comes from the barrel of a gun and
Hitler believed that power came from the barrel of his guns.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


How did we forget Bismark? If it wasn't for him, Germany couldn't
become the first country with universal health system. And
Schicklegruber just came at the right place and at the right time.
BTW, very few of his 'pals' were officially determined to qualify as
'Aryans'...How about Erhard Mich ? Even Manstein's original name was
von Lewinski ...

[email protected] January 5th 11 06:59 AM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On Jan 4, 5:54*pm, wrote:
A brand new Disney Cruise Ship arrived at Port Canaveral,Florida
today/last night.Good old Capitalism.
It is, or used to be, the only Ships built in Russia were Military
Ships.
Stephanie Bell Flynt and Barbie Bassett were just now talking about
Pismo Beach erosion, WLBT 3 tee vee 4:30 PM news.
cuhulin


During the Cuban missile crisis they used regular merchant marine
cargo and even passenger ships to 'deliver' their 'goods'. I think
that's what I heard.

RHF January 5th 11 07:32 AM

Just Holding Prez Obama To The Same Standards of Personal Attack andDestruction of Presidency as The Liberals Held Prez Bush Too
 
On Jan 4, 7:22*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 1/4/11 20:38 , wrote:



On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:26:02 -0600, D Peter
wrote:


On 1/4/11 14:57 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:


On 1/4/11 10:19 , wrote:


Sorry, but it's a philosophical statement. Federalist papers are not
law


On 1/4/2011 11:22 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:


The Constitution, however, is.


And as George W. Bush so famously put it, the Constitution is...nothing
more than a piece of paper.


Heck of a statement, Georgie!


* *Actually, that story was debunked years ago.


No---I don't think so


- Yes, it was.
-Often.
- Even Mathews reported that it wasn't true.
- And he was one of Bush's most outspoken opponents.

DPM,

Actually I never took it as something GWB said.

The import {meaning} that got from the 'claimed'
statement by GWB :
"George W. Bush so famously put it, the Constitution
is...nothing more than a piece of paper."
=WAS=
# 1 - GWB Was To 'Dumb' To Read It.
# 2 - GWB Was To 'Stupid' To Understand It.
# 3 - To GWB Any 'Paper' With Writing On It
-was- "nothing more than a piece of paper"
based on # 1 & # 2.

The 'Claim' Was To Add Insult To GWB [The Man]
and To Injury GWB [The President] : In An Effort To
Diminish GWB 'The Man' and Destroy GWB 'The
President'.

Now Apply The Same To Prez Obama :
To Add Insult To BHO [The Man] and To Injury BHO
[The President] : In An Effort To Diminish BHO 'The
Man' and Destroy BHO 'The President'.

MnMikew January 5th 11 03:28 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
On 01/04/2011 01:26 PM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 1/4/11 14:57 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 1/4/11 10:19 , wrote:

Sorry, but it's a philosophical statement. Federalist papers are not
law

On 1/4/2011 11:22 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:

The Constitution, however, is.

And as George W. Bush so famously put it, the Constitution is...nothing
more than a piece of paper.

Heck of a statement, Georgie!


Actually, that story was debunked years ago.

When? Where?


http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...itution_a.html



MnMikew January 5th 11 03:29 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
On 1/4/11 20:38 , wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:26:02 -0600, D Peter
wrote:

On 1/4/11 14:57 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 1/4/11 10:19 ,
wrote:

Sorry, but it's a philosophical statement. Federalist papers are not
law

On 1/4/2011 11:22 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:

The Constitution, however, is.

And as George W. Bush so famously put it, the Constitution is...nothing
more than a piece of paper.

Heck of a statement, Georgie!


Actually, that story was debunked years ago.


No---I don't think so



Yes, it was. Often. Even Mathews reported that it wasn't true. And he
was one of Bush's most outspoken opponents.


http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...itution_a.html



D Peter Maus[_2_] January 5th 11 03:46 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/5/11 09:11 , wrote:

What you're really describing---is a tendency to assign falsity to
anything you don't agree with---.



As are you. What's your point.


[email protected] January 5th 11 04:03 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
Looks like Fatty Arbuckle in some of the Our Gang/Little Rascals old
movies on TCM.

I bet y'all never heard of him before.I remember back in the 1940's when
I lived in Carthage,Missy Sippi, some people were talking about Fatty
Arbuckle.

One time about eleven years ago, I asked that married Irish woman
wayyyyyyy over yonder across the big pond if she has ever heard of Fatty
Arbuckle.She said, Of course I have!
cuhulin


Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] January 5th 11 05:49 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/4/2011 9:42 PM, wrote:


Interpretation allows its intent to be ignored.


The belief of an interpretation like that is to deny the foundation of
the constitution and 300 Yrs of established law.


Judges interpreting laws and case law has been a new development of the
last 100 years.

Coincidentally the Progressives have been active in colleges and
politics in America the last 100 years.


And how about those Progressives that gave us the progressive income tax
and the IRS and the Federal Reserve. Then they gave us Prohibition.




D. Peter Maus[_2_] January 5th 11 06:38 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/5/11 12:18 , wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:46:31 -0600, D Peter
wrote:

On 1/5/11 09:11 ,
wrote:

What you're really describing---is a tendency to assign falsity to
anything you don't agree with---.



As are you. What's your point.


I'm not the one claiming any interpretaton of law other than what you
agree with is correct

You are.



I see. So, a tendency to assign falsity to anything disagreed
with is only a flaw when YOU aren't doing it.

Interesting.





D. Peter Maus[_2_] January 5th 11 06:39 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/5/11 12:18 , wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:46:31 -0600, D Peter
wrote:

On 1/5/11 09:11 ,
wrote:

What you're really describing---is a tendency to assign falsity to
anything you don't agree with---.



As are you. What's your point.


I'm not the one claiming any interpretaton of law other than what you
agree with is correct

You are.


I'm not the one claiming any interpretation of law other than
what you agree with is incorrect.

You are.


What's your point?


D. Peter Maus[_2_] January 5th 11 06:47 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/5/11 12:20 , wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:49:50 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

On 1/4/2011 9:42 PM,
wrote:


Interpretation allows its intent to be ignored.


The belief of an interpretation like that is to deny the foundation of
the constitution and 300 Yrs of established law.


Judges interpreting laws and case law has been a new development of the
last 100 years.


Then you haven't read Marbury v Madison



One of the singular most insidious power grabs in the history of
the Union. Acting on a significantly broad gloss on the terms of the
Constitution, it is the first example of the Justices legislating
from the bench.

Marbury v Madison created what Jefferson, himself, called 'the
despotism of an oligarchy.'

Marbury v Madison was an example of interpretation diverting from
both the text and the spirit of law to empower the court to act
beyond jurisdiction.

Thank you for the example.






[email protected] January 5th 11 06:58 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
Locations That Have Dead Birds And Fish
http://www.standeyo.com

There still are Birds flying around here.I put some more Bird food in my
Bird feeder.
cuhulin


dave January 5th 11 09:35 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 01/06/2011 01:49 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
On 1/4/2011 9:42 PM, wrote:


Interpretation allows its intent to be ignored.


The belief of an interpretation like that is to deny the foundation of
the constitution and 300 Yrs of established law.


Judges interpreting laws and case law has been a new development of the
last 100 years.

Coincidentally the Progressives have been active in colleges and
politics in America the last 100 years.


And how about those Progressives that gave us the progressive income tax
and the IRS and the Federal Reserve. Then they gave us Prohibition.


Wrong!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._Madison

Don't confuse the Progressive Movement with today's liberals; two
different animals sharing the same root word.

What happened in 1710 of such legal import that you keep referring to it?

When discussing "original intent" please remember the Founders were
middle class farmers who tended toward liberal democracy. The
Federalists were the liberals. The antifederalists were the
conservatives. None of the founders was rich by today's standards.

Therefore when an elite Supreme Court justice like Nino Scalia, who
routinely hangs out with powerful captains of industry, attempts to
divine "original intent" I want to puke.

dave January 5th 11 09:39 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 01/06/2011 02:47 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 1/5/11 12:20 , wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:49:50 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

On 1/4/2011 9:42 PM,
wrote:


Interpretation allows its intent to be ignored.

The belief of an interpretation like that is to deny the foundation of
the constitution and 300 Yrs of established law.

Judges interpreting laws and case law has been a new development of the
last 100 years.


Then you haven't read Marbury v Madison



One of the singular most insidious power grabs in the history of the
Union. Acting on a significantly broad gloss on the terms of the
Constitution, it is the first example of the Justices legislating from
the bench.

Marbury v Madison created what Jefferson, himself, called 'the despotism
of an oligarchy.'

He was talking about the Roberts court, the most corrupt and damaging in
history.

dave January 5th 11 09:40 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 01/06/2011 04:27 AM, wrote:


But once again, you're countering with a rebuttal based on dislike of
the ruling---not in the efficacy of the ruling itself---accepted a
legal doctrine for nearly 300 yrs.


208?

D. Peter Maus[_2_] January 5th 11 09:44 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/5/11 14:27 , wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:47:20 -0600, "D. Peter Maus"
wrote:

On 1/5/11 12:20 ,
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:49:50 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

On 1/4/2011 9:42 PM,
wrote:


Interpretation allows its intent to be ignored.

The belief of an interpretation like that is to deny the foundation of
the constitution and 300 Yrs of established law.

Judges interpreting laws and case law has been a new development of the
last 100 years.

Then you haven't read Marbury v Madison



One of the singular most insidious power grabs in the history of
the Union.


That's what Judge Roy Moore believes(d)

How'd that work out for him?

But once again, you're countering with a rebuttal based on dislike of
the ruling---


Nothing different than anything you're doing. Interesting that
you don't like it.




D. Peter Maus[_2_] January 5th 11 09:45 PM

The Constitution is a building code, not a blueprint
 
On 1/5/11 14:27 , wrote:

But once again, you're countering with a rebuttal based on dislike of
the ruling---not in the efficacy of the ruling itself-



I'm sure it's not occurred to you that the two are related.



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