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m II February 24th 11 05:43 PM

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 


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On 11-02-23 11:37 PM, wrote:

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MEANED ?



Sure...he meant to say trillion, not billion, so, in effect, he
'demeaned' the billion. Conversely, that would imply he 'meaned' the
trillion.



mike
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What an idiot I am!

Billion has no clear definition except in the USA. The rest of the world has
a different counting system even though the US's conceit thinks everybody...

should be just like them.



mike (the reeled one)


Joe from Kokomo[_2_] February 24th 11 06:05 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 

On 02/23/2011 10:43 PM, wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:20 pm, wrote:
The guy at the AT&T store said if I get on AT&T U-Verse, I can watch
live Ireland and Scotland TV, if I have an HDTV set.I will buy an HDTV
set in about a month or two.He said they can set up the installatiion
(AT&T U-Verse) for me on March 2nd.Can't do it on that date, doggy has a
dental apointment at Animal Medical Center on March 2nd, my little couch
buddy doggy comes First!

I will be at that store again this afternoon, I will let them set it up
for a later date.There is a wireless ATRIX keyboard and some other ATRIX
accessories available too.I am interested in that wireless ATRIX
keyboard.Metinks I Likes that.

I am going to find out if I can keep my AT&T land line, so I can also
keep on using WebTV.Y'all would be Supprised how handy WebTV is/can be.
cuhulin


Amen. Long live WebTV .


On 2/24/2011 8:34 AM, dave wrote:

I would recommend against U-verse. Get DSL and Netflix and an antenna
for WBLT (hold the mayo). How far are you from the nearest AT&T node?


Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and mine is go FOR Uverse.

We've had it for a couple of years, works fine, lasts a long time. It
was cheaper than the previous service we had, you can have FOUR TV
programs simultaneously (3 record, one watching, 4 watching, any
combination of 4 you want), can set up record from any TV, can play back
from any TV. If you so desire, you have your voice, DSL and 4 video
channels -simultaneously- on -one- copper pair.

Bottom line: we have been very well pleased with Uverse, technically and
economically. Why do you recommend against it?

D. Peter Maus[_2_] February 24th 11 06:20 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
On 2/24/11 12:05 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 02/23/2011 10:43 PM, wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:20 pm, wrote:
The guy at the AT&T store said if I get on AT&T U-Verse, I can
watch
live Ireland and Scotland TV, if I have an HDTV set.I will buy
an HDTV
set in about a month or two.He said they can set up the
installatiion
(AT&T U-Verse) for me on March 2nd.Can't do it on that date,
doggy has a
dental apointment at Animal Medical Center on March 2nd, my
little couch
buddy doggy comes First!

I will be at that store again this afternoon, I will let them
set it up
for a later date.There is a wireless ATRIX keyboard and some
other ATRIX
accessories available too.I am interested in that wireless ATRIX
keyboard.Metinks I Likes that.

I am going to find out if I can keep my AT&T land line, so I can
also
keep on using WebTV.Y'all would be Supprised how handy WebTV
is/can be.
cuhulin

Amen. Long live WebTV .


On 2/24/2011 8:34 AM, dave wrote:

I would recommend against U-verse. Get DSL and Netflix and an antenna
for WBLT (hold the mayo). How far are you from the nearest AT&T node?


Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and mine is go FOR Uverse.

We've had it for a couple of years, works fine, lasts a long time.
It was cheaper than the previous service we had, you can have FOUR
TV programs simultaneously (3 record, one watching, 4 watching, any
combination of 4 you want), can set up record from any TV, can play
back from any TV. If you so desire, you have your voice, DSL and 4
video channels -simultaneously- on -one- copper pair.

Bottom line: we have been very well pleased with Uverse, technically
and economically. Why do you recommend against it?



Top of the list, overcompression on HD video. Lots of artifacts.
There's only so much you can slam through a copper pair.

Compared to OTA HD, which is the closest to HD you'll get, the
differences are dramatic.

During periods of very heavy usage, where there are peak numbers
of users on a radius, such as during a SuperBowl broadcast in a city
neighborhood, pixelation, stutters, and dropouts are common.

At my late G/F's place in Oak Park, during the American Idol
finals, she went back to an antenna because U-Verse was not able to
provide a reliable picture.

Internet uploads are capped on U-Verse at 384k. Have you ever
tried to upload 8GB of pictures at 384K?

There are better options to U-Verse. Not in all locations, of
course, but in populated areas, for the same money, you can get much
more performance with fewer headaches.




[email protected] February 24th 11 06:59 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
Looka here, I am a Dummy, and a Dumb Dummy at that.

AT&T U-Verse crap.I haven't signed any paper(s) on that.AT&T to install
that crap for me on Monday, March 7, 2011.

My paper the guy at that AT&T retail store (about two blocks South of
doggy's couch) handed me yesterday afternoon when I was over thar.It
says,
AT&T U-Verse TV $84/Month.
AT&T U-Verse Internet $47.00/Month.
AT&T U-Verse Voice Voice Unlimited $39.95 Month.


What the Hell!, I don't need that sheet.I can't really afford it anyway,
I am po.
What is AT&T Voice Unlimited? I rarely ever use my AT&T land line phone.

But, (like I was telling doggy just now) I wonder how AT&T TV compares
to my DirecTV? I am paying for, abouts $82.00 every month.

I think doggy would tell me, WOOF WOOF! , you better git your arse back
over thar to that AT&T store and CANCEL that sheet, before you screw up
Big Time!

Metinks doggy is 100 percent Exactly Right.
cuhulin


Joe from Kokomo[_2_] February 24th 11 08:38 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 

On 2/24/2011 8:34 AM, dave wrote:

I would recommend against U-verse. Get DSL and Netflix and an
antenna for WBLT (hold the mayo). How far are you from the
nearest AT&T node?


On 2/24/11 12:05 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and mine is go FOR Uverse.

We've had it for a couple of years, works fine, lasts a long time.
It was cheaper than the previous service we had, you can have FOUR
TV programs simultaneously (3 record, one watching, 4 watching,
any combination of 4 you want), can set up record from any TV, can
play back from any TV. If you so desire, you have your voice, DSL
and 4 video channels -simultaneously- on -one- copper pair.

Bottom line: we have been very well pleased with Uverse,
technically and economically. Why do you recommend against it?


On 2/24/2011 1:20 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Top of the list, overcompression on HD video. Lots of artifacts.


A non-issue to us as we don't subscribe to HD service. Many, many
programs are NOT (yet) in HD and with a lot of the "historical"
documentaries using ancient film, never will be...and who needs "Pawn
Stars" or "Myth Busters" in HD anyway?

There's only so much you can slam through a copper pair.


Absolutely true...and it is true magic how hard they are making that
poor little pair work!

Compared to OTA HD, which is the closest to HD you'll get, the differences are dramatic.


Probably true, but I'm not sure how fair it is to compare the 5 or 10
OTA stations you may get versus up to 400 channels on Uverse.

During periods of very heavy usage, where there are peak numbers of
users on a radius, such as during a SuperBowl broadcast in a city
neighborhood, pixelation, stutters, and dropouts are common.


Very, very rarely occurs here (or at my cousin's place 35 miles away). I
might question the design of the system in your locality.

At my late G/F's place in Oak Park, during the American Idol finals,
she went back to an antenna because U-Verse was not able to provide a
reliable picture.


Again, I would question your local design and the condition of your
local loop. A lot of that old Chicago outside plant is pretty tired, may
not have been properly de-loaded, may not have had all of the bridge tap
removed. If you have poor service, complain, report it to Repair.

Internet uploads are capped on U-Verse at 384k. Have you ever tried
to upload 8GB of pictures at 384K?


That's why the complete name is ADSL (shortened to DSL). The "A" stands
for "asymmetrical" upload/download speeds. And no, I've never had to
upload 8 GB of pictures -- nor do I suspect most "average" users have
either. If you have special needs, Uverse may not be for you...although
many DSL services are indeed ADSL too, giving you the same problem.

There are better options to U-Verse. Not in all locations, of course,
but in populated areas, for the same money, you can get much more
performance with fewer headaches.


Possibly true, but for our usage, in our area, great quality of service
and for the economic advantage, we are happy campers. Your Mileage May
Vary...

D. Peter Maus[_2_] February 24th 11 09:16 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
On 2/24/11 14:38 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 2/24/2011 8:34 AM, dave wrote:

I would recommend against U-verse. Get DSL and Netflix and an
antenna for WBLT (hold the mayo). How far are you from the
nearest AT&T node?


On 2/24/11 12:05 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and mine is go FOR Uverse.

We've had it for a couple of years, works fine, lasts a long time.
It was cheaper than the previous service we had, you can have FOUR
TV programs simultaneously (3 record, one watching, 4 watching,
any combination of 4 you want), can set up record from any TV, can
play back from any TV. If you so desire, you have your voice, DSL
and 4 video channels -simultaneously- on -one- copper pair.

Bottom line: we have been very well pleased with Uverse,
technically and economically. Why do you recommend against it?


On 2/24/2011 1:20 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Top of the list, overcompression on HD video. Lots of artifacts.


A non-issue to us as we don't subscribe to HD service. Many, many
programs are NOT (yet) in HD and with a lot of the "historical"
documentaries using ancient film, never will be...and who needs
"Pawn Stars" or "Myth Busters" in HD anyway?



The problem is that the artifacts often appear on non HD
programming, as well.



There's only so much you can slam through a copper pair.


Absolutely true...and it is true magic how hard they are making that
poor little pair work!

Compared to OTA HD, which is the closest to HD you'll get, the
differences are dramatic.


Probably true, but I'm not sure how fair it is to compare the 5 or
10 OTA stations you may get versus up to 400 channels on Uverse.



From my location, I've got 46 (on a good day), 38 HD channels
OTA, with their multiple digital subchannels.

During periods of very heavy usage, where there are peak numbers of
users on a radius, such as during a SuperBowl broadcast in a city
neighborhood, pixelation, stutters, and dropouts are common.


Very, very rarely occurs here (or at my cousin's place 35 miles
away). I might question the design of the system in your locality.


Believe me, so did I.


At my late G/F's place in Oak Park, during the American Idol finals,
she went back to an antenna because U-Verse was not able to provide a
reliable picture.


Again, I would question your local design and the condition of your
local loop. A lot of that old Chicago outside plant is pretty tired,
may not have been properly de-loaded, may not have had all of the
bridge tap removed. If you have poor service, complain, report it to
Repair.


Well, that's the problem. Repair will not address infrastructure
issues.


Internet uploads are capped on U-Verse at 384k. Have you ever tried
to upload 8GB of pictures at 384K?


That's why the complete name is ADSL (shortened to DSL).


Actually, DSL is short for DSL. ADSL is still ADSL. There is
SDSL, as well. And IDSL. But that's no longer being installed.


The "A"
stands for "asymmetrical" upload/download speeds. And no, I've never
had to upload 8 GB of pictures -- nor do I suspect most "average"
users have either. If you have special needs, Uverse may not be for
you...although many DSL services are indeed ADSL too, giving you the
same problem.


Not really. Of all the options I've investigated, in areas where
I have visited...except the cabin in Wisconsin...U-Verse is the
slowest by far for the money. For the same money, 1MB up and 3MB
down from Comcast. On a private radius.

For work, I need at least 3 MB up in order to upload a project to
meet deadlines. I've got business class service for that reason,
which replaced my T-1 last year.

U-Verse only offered 384k up on a common node.



There are better options to U-Verse. Not in all locations, of course,
but in populated areas, for the same money, you can get much more
performance with fewer headaches.


Possibly true, but for our usage, in our area, great quality of
service and for the economic advantage, we are happy campers. Your
Mileage May Vary...





[email protected] February 24th 11 10:09 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
I took doogy's ADDvice.Around 12:30 PM this afternoon, I went to the
Goodwill store and then I back tracked to the AT&T store.A very nice
lady by the name of Paula Kelly (she is as skinny as skinny twin sister
is, maybe even skinnier and pretty too) AT&T Home Consultant (she gave
me her card) lady.Paula Kelly helped me Unass/Cancel all of that AT&T
set up appointment, it took about half an hour or more to git er done.
Thank you Paula Kelly,,, you are a Real Sweatheart.

Heh, they were probally cussin me out when I left the store.

But I don't know, I still wants to buy me a real shonuff 1080 DPI
(whatever it is, dots per inch) HDTV set at one of the Cowboy Maloney
stores around here.Maybe in a couple of months or three or four,,,,,,
http://www.cowboymaloney.com
cuhulin, CANCEL


[email protected] February 24th 11 10:12 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
Yeah, in fact of the business,,, ask Philip Swann at
http://www.tvpredictions.com

A LOT of people think they are getting real HDTV, but they are not.
cuhulin


dave February 25th 11 01:14 AM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
On 02/24/2011 10:05 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:


Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and mine is go FOR Uverse.

We've had it for a couple of years, works fine, lasts a long time. It
was cheaper than the previous service we had, you can have FOUR TV
programs simultaneously (3 record, one watching, 4 watching, any
combination of 4 you want), can set up record from any TV, can play back
from any TV. If you so desire, you have your voice, DSL and 4 video
channels -simultaneously- on -one- copper pair.

Bottom line: we have been very well pleased with Uverse, technically and
economically. Why do you recommend against it?


Way too much money. I get Time-Warner Clear QAM broadcast basic for $20
a month. My DSL is $35 a month (fees included) for "Elite" (5 Mbps).
Netflix is $12 a month. The phone is around $16 a month (measured
service). This is $17 a month less than the U-verse introductory deal. I
am only one, maybe 2 people. I got no need for 4 DVRs (or even one). TV
is for morons.

dave February 25th 11 01:21 AM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
On 02/24/2011 02:12 PM, wrote:
Yeah, in fact of the business,,, ask Philip Swann at
http://www.tvpredictions.com

A LOT of people think they are getting real HDTV, but they are not.
cuhulin


That's because the cable guys still use Channel 3 and RG-6 sometimes.
Time Warner lets me do all my own installation.


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