BBC cutbacks petition
 

Hello all,

as some of you might have already heard, the UK government wants to
cut the BBC World Service.

Please sign the petition to protest against this step at
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/savews

Thank you and kind regards,
DAC324


JP

BBC cutbacks petition
 

Hello,

On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:25:30 +0000, Hils wrote:

Please sign the petition to protest against this step at
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/savews


As a UK taxpayer whose broadband charges are about to rise 30%, you'll
excuse me if I don't. But gov.uk would probably take more notice of
listeners/customers anyway.

Do not mix both problems...

BBC world service is a real service for a lot of people around the world.
In a lot of countries it is difficult to get real information about what
is occurring on earth...

The fact that taxes are about to raise in UK is probably due to the fact
that companies did not pay enough taxes in the past...

Sebastien.

BBC cutbacks petition
 

On Feb 18, 10:05*am, Sébastien MEDARD wrote:
Hello,

On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:25:30 +0000, Hils wrote:
Please sign the petition to protest against this step at
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/savews

As a UK taxpayer whose broadband charges are about to rise 30%, you'll
excuse me if I don't. But gov.uk would probably take more notice of
listeners/customers anyway.

Do not mix both problems...

BBC world service is a real service for a lot of people around the world.
In a lot of countries it is difficult to get real information about what
is occurring on earth...

The fact that taxes are about to raise in UK is probably due to the fact
that companies did not pay enough taxes in the past...

Sebastien.

So why should the British [UK] Taxpayers Pay For
The News and Information of Other Nations ?

Shouldn't the Citizens-of-the-World "UN"
Be Paying for the BBC then . . .

BBC cutbacks petition
 

On Feb 18, 11:59*am, RHF wrote:
On Feb 18, 10:05*am, Sébastien MEDARD wrote:





Hello,

On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:25:30 +0000, Hils wrote:
Please sign the petition to protest against this step at
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/savews

As a UK taxpayer whose broadband charges are about to rise 30%, you'll
excuse me if I don't. But gov.uk would probably take more notice of
listeners/customers anyway.

Do not mix both problems...

BBC world service is a real service for a lot of people around the world.
In a lot of countries it is difficult to get real information about what
is occurring on earth...

The fact that taxes are about to raise in UK is probably due to the fact
that companies did not pay enough taxes in the past...

Sebastien.

So why should the British [UK] Taxpayers Pay For
The News and Information of Other Nations ?

Shouldn't the Citizens-of-the-World "UN"
Be Paying for the BBC then . . .
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, that's all for the last episode of the Shortwave Radio Show!
Thanks for joining us! Those radios will make swell trebuchet
counterweights! So long now!

Off-the-air.

BBC cutbacks petition
 

On 02/18/2011 11:59 AM, RHF wrote:


So why should the British [UK] Taxpayers Pay For
The News and Information of Other Nations ?



Maybe the British don't want to live in a world full of idiots. The
World Service is something they can be proud of.

BBC cutbacks petition
 

On Feb 18, 4:33*pm, Hils wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Feb 18, 1:58 pm, dave wrote:
On 02/18/2011 11:59 AM, RHF wrote:
So why should the British [UK] Taxpayers Pay For
The News and Information of Other Nations ?
Maybe the British don't want to live in a world full of idiots. The
World Service is something they can be proud of.

Yes, but conservative governments rarely believe in educating the
masses. *Idiots are their best friends.

20 years ago the World Service may have been educational; I recall it
being the most "highbrow" of all of the BBC's radio channels. What I've
heard of it recently has sounded increasingly like ratings-chasing. And
I haven't become conservative with the passing years: much the opposite!
The World Service is not what it was: I object to paying for substandard
broadcasts.

Anyway, from 2014 it will be funded from licence revenue, not from a
direct government grant.

Sebastien's point about tax evasion is a fair one. The UK government
has been colluding in it for years.

That's right - the British conservative government has lost interest
in educating.

BBC cutbacks petition
 

On 02/18/2011 02:44 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Feb 18, 1:58 pm, wrote:
On 02/18/2011 11:59 AM, RHF wrote:



So why should the British [UK] Taxpayers Pay For
The News and Information of Other Nations ?

Maybe the British don't want to live in a world full of idiots. The
World Service is something they can be proud of.

Yes, but conservative governments rarely believe in educating the
masses. Idiots are their best friends.

The "conservatives" (not like Dirksen or Goldwater) need the zombie army
of idiots to vote for them. The queers are gonna take your guns away!

BBC cutbacks petition
 

On Feb 18, 5:44*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Feb 18, 1:58*pm, dave wrote:

On 02/18/2011 11:59 AM, RHF wrote:

So why should the British [UK] Taxpayers Pay For
The News and Information of Other Nations ?

Maybe the British don't want to live in a world full of idiots. The
World Service is something they can be proud of.

Yes, but conservative governments rarely believe in educating the
masses. *Idiots are their best friends.

Idiots are naturally born . Ignorance is cultivated artificially .

BBC cutbacks petition
 

On Feb 18, 7:27*pm, wrote:
On Feb 18, 5:44*pm, bpnjensen wrote:

On Feb 18, 1:58*pm, dave wrote:

On 02/18/2011 11:59 AM, RHF wrote:

So why should the British [UK] Taxpayers Pay For
The News and Information of Other Nations ?

Maybe the British don't want to live in a world full of idiots. The
World Service is something they can be proud of.

Yes, but conservative governments rarely believe in educating the
masses. *Idiots are their best friends.

Idiots are naturally born . Ignorance is cultivated artificially .

Well, there IS that too... ;-)

BBC cutbacks petition
 

Hello,

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:47:21 +0000, Hils wrote:

Sébastien MEDARD wrote:

If you switch off the BBC World Service, you will have no tool, ever,
to be used when you will be facing a problem.

I wouldn't switch it off completely, I'd focus it much more on news, and
get rid of the feminist propaganda and ratings-chasing.

It would be a good compromise.

Russia's and Romania's external radio programmes are more interesting
IMO.

I should listen to them, for a try.

If only there was an Al Jazeera Radio on shortwave. :-)

I don't watch Al Jazeera but probably I should...

The EU, and member governments, are backing away from tackling the
problems of global capitalism.

The EU, and member governments ideology is more extreme than in the US....

Sebastien.

BBC cutbacks petition
 

On 02/21/2011 02:12 AM, Sébastien MEDARD wrote:
Hello,


The EU, and member governments ideology is more extreme than in the US....

Sebastien.

I doubt that. The only place more extreme than this Hell hole is Iran or
maybe that 'stan where they boil people in oil. We are fed propaganda
and jingoism all day long. We are offered the same mediocre product with
4 different labels and we think we have a choice. Help.

BBC cutbacks petition
 

dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 02:12 AM, Sébastien MEDARD wrote:
Hello,


The EU, and member governments ideology is more extreme than in the US....

Sebastien.

I doubt that. The only place more extreme than this Hell hole is Iran or
maybe that 'stan where they boil people in oil. We are fed propaganda
and jingoism all day long. We are offered the same mediocre product with
4 different labels and we think we have a choice. Help.

You need help packing for the move, clown 'tard?

'Special-Dave' Calls the USA a "Hell Hole" !
 

On Feb 21, 5:25*am, dave wrote:
On 02/21/2011 02:12 AM, Sébastien MEDARD wrote:

Hello,

The EU, and member governments ideology is more extreme than in the US.....

Sebastien.

- I doubt that.
- The only place more extreme than this Hell hole

So... Once Again 'Special-Dave' Shows Why He Is
"Special" by Calling the Good Old USA A "Hell Hole".

? The USA Is Extreme !

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 02/21/2011 05:43 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 02:12 AM, Sébastien MEDARD wrote:
Hello,


The EU, and member governments ideology is more extreme than in the US....

Sebastien.

I doubt that. The only place more extreme than this Hell hole is Iran or
maybe that 'stan where they boil people in oil. We are fed propaganda
and jingoism all day long. We are offered the same mediocre product with
4 different labels and we think we have a choice. Help.

You need help packing for the move, clown 'tard?



"In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political
process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others.
Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks
that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to
politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case
of Mr. Walker). On paper, we’re a one-person-one-vote nation; in
reality, we’re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of
wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it’s important to have institutions that can act as
counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most
important of these institutions.

You don’t have to love unions, you don’t have to believe that their
policy positions are always right, to recognize that they’re among the
few influential players in our political system representing the
interests of middle- and working-class Americans, as opposed to the
wealthy. Indeed, if America has become more oligarchic and less
democratic over the last 30 years — which it has — that’s to an
important extent due to the decline of private-sector unions."
-nyt krugman yesterday

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 05:43 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 02:12 AM, Sébastien MEDARD wrote:
Hello,


The EU, and member governments ideology is more extreme than in the US....

Sebastien.

I doubt that. The only place more extreme than this Hell hole is Iran or
maybe that 'stan where they boil people in oil. We are fed propaganda
and jingoism all day long. We are offered the same mediocre product with
4 different labels and we think we have a choice. Help.

You need help packing for the move, clown 'tard?



"In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political
process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others.
Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks
that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to
politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case
of Mr. Walker). On paper, we’re a one-person-one-vote nation; in
reality, we’re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of
wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it’s important to have institutions that can act as
counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most
important of these institutions.

You don’t have to love unions, you don’t have to believe that their
policy positions are always right, to recognize that they’re among the
few influential players in our political system representing the
interests of middle- and working-class Americans, as opposed to the
wealthy. Indeed, if America has become more oligarchic and less
democratic over the last 30 years — which it has — that’s to an
important extent due to the decline of private-sector unions."
-nyt krugman yesterday

Poppycock!

You need help packing for the move, clown 'tard?

'Special-Dave' -proclaims- I Got Mine, Screw the Rest of Ya!
 

On Feb 21, 7:51*am, dave wrote:
On 02/21/2011 05:43 AM, dxAce wrote:





dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 02:12 AM, Sébastien MEDARD wrote:
Hello,

The EU, and member governments ideology is more extreme than in the US....

Sebastien.

I doubt that. The only place more extreme than this Hell hole is Iran or
maybe that 'stan where they boil people in oil. We are fed propaganda
and jingoism all day long. We are offered the same mediocre product with
4 different labels and we think we have a choice. Help.

You need help packing for the move, clown 'tard?

"In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political
process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others.
Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks
that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to
politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case
of Mr. Walker). On paper, we’re a one-person-one-vote nation; in
reality, we’re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of
wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it’s important to have institutions that can act as
counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most
important of these institutions.

You don’t have to love unions, you don’t have to believe that their
policy positions are always right, to recognize that they’re among the
few influential players in our political system representing the
interests of middle- and working-class Americans, as opposed to the
wealthy. Indeed, if America has become more oligarchic and less
democratic over the last 30 years — which it has — that’s to an
important extent due to the decline of private-sector unions."
-nyt krugman yesterday

'Special-Dave' : "I got mine, screw the rest of ya!"

Spoken just like a real 100% 'Special-Dave'.

OMG 'Special-Dave' !
-you-have-become-your-worst-nightmare-
You Have Become Your Father ;;-}} ~ RHF

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 2/21/11 15:11 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:



I hope you have and/or can afford medical insurance with YOUR
pre-existing medical condition(s). The Big Business insurance
companies can, have and will again deny coverage to people with
pre-existing conditions.




Just as the Big Government insurance plan is doing today.

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 2/21/11 15:11 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

I hope you [Lare] have and/or can afford medical insurance with YOUR
pre-existing medical condition(s). The Big Business insurance
companies can, have and will again deny coverage to people with
pre-existing conditions.

On 2/21/2011 6:25 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Just as the Big Government insurance plan is doing today.

Seeing as the new plan has not yet been implemented, this would presume
that you are referring to what we have 'today' -- Medicare -- which does
NOT deny coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

If you are referring to the new, not yet implemented universal health
care, one of the widely touted features of this plan is that you would
NOT be denied coverage if you had a pre-existing condition.

DP, what you say seems contradictory, could you please 'splain yourself...

Fairness & Equality For All : "Golden Benefit" Union Employees TaxExcessive Benefits as Income
 

On Feb 21, 9:02*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
dave wrote:
"In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political
process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others..
Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks
that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to
politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case
of Mr. Walker). On paper, we re a one-person-one-vote nation; in
reality, we re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of
wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it s important to have institutions that can act as
counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most
important of these institutions.

You don t have to love unions, you don t have to believe that their
policy positions are always right, to recognize that they re among the
few influential players in our political system representing the
interests of middle- and working-class Americans, as opposed to the
wealthy. Indeed, if America has become more oligarchic and less
democratic over the last 30 years which it has that s to an
important extent due to the decline of private-sector unions."
-nyt krugman yesterday

On 2/21/2011 11:19 AM, dxAce wrote:

Poppycock!

No 'poppycock' at all. The Wisconsin unions offered financial cuts and
give-backs towards their pensions and health care, but the governor
rejected their offer out of hand.

In the governor's case, the finances had nothing to do with his agenda;
he -does- want to get rid of collective bargaining. The guv wants to
bust unions, pure and simple.

Steve, from your posts here, you appear to be just a little guy, not a
wealthy individual. Why are you so hell-bent on giving away the store to
Big Business?

The Simple Fact is that All Employ Benefits* should
be on the Same 50%/50% "PAR" as Social Security

50% Paid by the Employer =&= 50% Paid by the Employee
* Retirement
* Health Coverage & Insurance
* Life Insurance
* Disability Insurance
* etc etc etc . . .

Tax Golden Benefit Union Employees as Excessive
Income that the Employer Pays More Than 50%

Government Employees Benefits Should Be The
Same As Regular Hard Working Average American
Tax Payers :
* Fairness For One Is Fairness For All
* Equality For One Is Equality For All
* End The Excesses of Big Government Give-A-Ways
* Government Employees Work For The People
{The People Do Not Exist To Be Taxed Into Slavery To
Support Excessive Benefits For Government Employees}

Sustainable Benefits =&= Sustainable Taxes ~ RHF
{A Just Society =&= A Justly Taxed Society}
http://tundratabloids.com/wp-content...tuce-allah.jpg

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 02/21/2011 08:19 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 05:43 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 02:12 AM, Sébastien MEDARD wrote:
Hello,


The EU, and member governments ideology is more extreme than in the US....

Sebastien.

I doubt that. The only place more extreme than this Hell hole is Iran or
maybe that 'stan where they boil people in oil. We are fed propaganda
and jingoism all day long. We are offered the same mediocre product with
4 different labels and we think we have a choice. Help.

You need help packing for the move, clown 'tard?



"In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political
process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others.
Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks
that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to
politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case
of Mr. Walker). On paper, we’re a one-person-one-vote nation; in
reality, we’re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of
wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it’s important to have institutions that can act as
counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most
important of these institutions.

You don’t have to love unions, you don’t have to believe that their
policy positions are always right, to recognize that they’re among the
few influential players in our political system representing the
interests of middle- and working-class Americans, as opposed to the
wealthy. Indeed, if America has become more oligarchic and less
democratic over the last 30 years — which it has — that’s to an
important extent due to the decline of private-sector unions."
-nyt krugman yesterday

Poppycock!

You need help packing for the move, clown 'tard?


Poppycock you say?

I say phooey! You are a tool.

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 02/21/2011 10:12 AM, dxAce wrote:


Steve, from your posts here, you appear to be just a little guy, not a
wealthy individual. Why are you so hell-bent on giving away the store to
Big Business?

Why are YOU so hell-bent on giving away the store to Big Government?

The only way the little guy has a chance against big business is to have
a powerful government keeping big business in line. Otherwise you have
people like BP and Goldman Sachs pushing everybody around.

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 02/21/2011 02:12 PM, dxAce wrote:


The GREED of Wall Street (Big
Business) brought you the Great Recession that we are in.

Nah, it was the likes of Barney (give it to me in the ass) Frank.


Not true. It was actually a handful of people at a handful of
institutions making greedy (and stupid) decisions. 2 acts of Congress,
criminal behavior by Moody's and S&P and some below the radar "waivers"
created a derivatives bubble. Barney Frank just provided the bubble
material. Phil Gramm, Alan Greenspan, Clinton, Geightner, etc. all went
crazy reversing the laws Roosevelt put in place. This is what happens
when business is deregulated.

These people crashed the economy on purpose so they could destroy the
New Deal. We paid off AIG 100 cents to the dollar. Pension plans took a
hit. People were wiped out. The whole time, rich people have been having
their taxes cut. This is wrong. This is how revolts get started.

'Voluntary' "End-of-Life" Planning -aka- The Free Obama-Care© 'Death Panel' Counseling
 

On Feb 21, 4:42*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 2/21/11 15:11 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
I hope you [Lare] have and/or can afford medical insurance with YOUR
pre-existing medical condition(s). The Big Business insurance
companies can, have and will again deny coverage to people with
pre-existing conditions.

On 2/21/2011 6:25 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Just as the Big Government insurance plan is doing today.

Seeing as the new plan has not yet been implemented, this would presume
that you are referring to what we have 'today' -- Medicare -- which does
NOT deny coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

If you are referring to the new, not yet implemented universal health
care, one of the widely touted features of this plan is that you would
NOT be denied coverage if you had a pre-existing condition.

DP, what you say seems contradictory, could you please 'splain yourself....

Obama-Care© {Big "G" Health Care}
First : They Tax You
Second : They Tax You Some More
Next : They Hand You Your Denial of Benefits Notice
Then : The Free "Death Panel" Counseling
-so-called- 'Voluntary' "End-of-Life"* Planning
http://www.examiner.com/democrat-in-...-life-planning

* Ending Your Life =for= The Good of Society
* * Euthanasia = Obama Liberal 'Elitist' Thinking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia
* * Eugenics = Obama Democrat 'Elitist' Thinking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

The Obama {Elitist} Health Care Directive : Kill-Off The
Old To Cut the High Cost of Keeping Them Alive :
Pay More Taxes and More Premiums and More Fees
-and- Get Less Care and Less Treatment and Less Help
-cause- Your Death Can Be A Blessing To Society

and that is how 'i' see it ~ RHF

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On Feb 21, 5:12*pm, dxAce wrote:
Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Joe from Kokomo wrote:

dave wrote:

"In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political
process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others.
Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks
that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to
politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case
of Mr. Walker). On paper, we re a one-person-one-vote nation; in
reality, we re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of
wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it s important to have institutions that can act as
counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most
important of these institutions.

You don t have to love unions, you don t have to believe that their
policy positions are always right, to recognize that they re among the
few influential players in our political system representing the
interests of middle- and working-class Americans, as opposed to the
wealthy. Indeed, if America has become more oligarchic and less
democratic over the last 30 years which it has that s to an
important extent due to the decline of private-sector unions."
-nyt krugman yesterday

On 2/21/2011 11:19 AM, dxAce wrote:

Poppycock!

No 'poppycock' at all. The Wisconsin unions offered financial cuts and
give-backs towards their pensions and health care, but the governor
rejected their offer out of hand.

In the governor's case, the finances had nothing to do with his agenda;
he -does- want to get rid of collective bargaining. The guv wants to
bust unions, pure and simple.

Steve, from your posts here, you appear to be just a little guy, not a
wealthy individual. Why are you so hell-bent on giving away the store to
Big Business?

On 2/21/2011 1:12 PM, dxAce wrote:

Why are YOU so hell-bent on giving away the store to Big Government?

Well, at least Big Government will provide a large variety of services
for its citizens -- libraries, paved roads, traffic lights, fire and
police departments, Social Security, Medicare, etc, etc, etc.

Big Business will grab you by the ankles, turn you upside down and shake
every last nickel out of your pocket.

Gee, that sure sounds like Big Government!

The GREED of Wall Street (Big
Business) brought you the Great Recession that we are in.

Nah, it was the likes of Barney (give it to me in the ass) Frank.



Big Business,
with a Trillion (with a 'T') dollar, all-time high, record profits, will
not resume hiring. Now that they have down-sized the daylights out of
the work force, they love those record profits that they are getting out
of a reduced work force.

I hope you have and/or can afford medical insurance with YOUR
pre-existing medical condition(s). The Big Business insurance companies
can, have and will again deny coverage to people with pre-existing
conditions.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Reminds me of the 'Barney Song' .

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On Feb 21, 8:11*pm, dave wrote:
On 02/21/2011 02:12 PM, dxAce wrote:



The GREED of Wall Street (Big
Business) brought you the Great Recession that we are in.

Nah, it was the likes of Barney (give it to me in the ass) Frank.

Not true. It was actually a handful of people at a handful of
institutions making greedy (and stupid) decisions. 2 acts of Congress,
criminal behavior by Moody's and S&P and some below the radar "waivers"
created a derivatives bubble. Barney Frank just provided the bubble
material. Phil Gramm, Alan Greenspan, Clinton, Geightner, etc. all went
crazy reversing the laws Roosevelt put in place. This is what happens
when business is deregulated.

These people crashed the economy on purpose so they could destroy the
New Deal. We paid off AIG 100 cents to the dollar. Pension plans took a
hit. People were wiped out. The whole time, rich people have been having
their taxes cut. This is wrong. This is how revolts get started.

This time -- you are right . And MORE .

The Free Obama-Care© 'Death Panel' Counseling -wrt- Coerced "Ending-Your-Life" Mandate
 

On Feb 21, 7:11*pm, Gary Forbis wrote:

* * * Let The Truth Be Told * * *

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 02:12 PM, dxAce wrote:


The GREED of Wall Street (Big
Business) brought you the Great Recession that we are in.

Nah, it was the likes of Barney (give it to me in the ass) Frank.


Not true. It was actually a handful of people at a handful of
institutions making greedy (and stupid) decisions. 2 acts of Congress,
criminal behavior by Moody's and S&P and some below the radar "waivers"
created a derivatives bubble. Barney Frank just provided the bubble
material. Phil Gramm, Alan Greenspan, Clinton, Geightner, etc. all went
crazy reversing the laws Roosevelt put in place. This is what happens
when business is deregulated.

These people crashed the economy on purpose so they could destroy the
New Deal.

Take your meds, Dave, and revel in the knowledge that you are a Golden
Come-Along Winner!

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

We're so thrilled that you got yours, Dave. After all you are a Golden Come-Along
Winner, and certainly deserve the best!

'Voluntary' Counseling (hint hint)
 

On 02/21/2011 05:57 PM, RHF wrote:


The Obama {Elitist} Health Care Directive : Kill-Off The
Old To Cut the High Cost of Keeping Them Alive :
Pay More Taxes and More Premiums and More Fees
-and- Get Less Care and Less Treatment and Less Help
-cause- Your Death Can Be A Blessing To Society


You are an embarrassment. Our current health care system kills 50,000
people a year. Minimum. And those are just the ones that never see the
inside of a doctor's office until it's too late.

You support doctors gaming the system while denying people care, so that
only the most profitable medicine is practiced? You think people should
get rich from other people getting sick? No moral issues there?

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 02/21/2011 11:27 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:



Government medical plans, of any stripe turn down more pre-existing
conditions than all the insurance carriers combined.


What do you mean "turn down more pre-existing
conditions"? Are you saying people with chronic conditions are denied
coverage? That is not my understanding. Medicare is like group health
insurance; they have to cover you.

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 02/21/2011 11:41 PM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 2/21/11 15:11 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:




{stipulated}...



Just out of idle curiosity, what kind of antenna system do you use?



two verticals 66 feet apart

Starve the Beast
 

On 02/22/2011 01:23 AM, dxAce wrote:


These people crashed the economy on purpose so they could destroy the
New Deal.

Take your meds, Dave, and revel in the knowledge that you are a Golden
Come-Along Winner!


I've been spot on so far, and you continue to be wrong and against the
people.

http://www.wordspy.com/words/starvethebeast.asp

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 02/22/2011 01:35 AM, dxAce wrote:
We're so thrilled that you got yours, Dave. After all you are a Golden Come-Along
Winner, and certainly deserve the best!




The header is me quoting you.

Starve the Beast
 

dave wrote:

On 02/22/2011 01:23 AM, dxAce wrote:


These people crashed the economy on purpose so they could destroy the
New Deal.

Take your meds, Dave, and revel in the knowledge that you are a Golden
Come-Along Winner!


I've been spot on so far, and you continue to be wrong and against the
people.

You continue to be full of ****, Rickmers.

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 11:27 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:



Government medical plans, of any stripe turn down more pre-existing
conditions than all the insurance carriers combined.


What do you mean "turn down more pre-existing
conditions"? Are you saying people with chronic conditions are denied
coverage? That is not my understanding.

Your problem is that you simply lack understanding and comprehension.

You are a mentally ill clown 'tard and it is you who need the voluntary
counselling.

Now go take your meds, Rickmers, and shut the hell up!

'Voluntary' Counseling (hint hint)
 

dave wrote:
On 02/21/2011 05:57 PM, RHF wrote:


The Obama {Elitist} Health Care Directive : Kill-Off The
Old To Cut the High Cost of Keeping Them Alive :
Pay More Taxes and More Premiums and More Fees
-and- Get Less Care and Less Treatment and Less Help
-cause- Your Death Can Be A Blessing To Society


You are an embarrassment. Our current health care system kills 50,000
people a year. Minimum. And those are just the ones that never see the
inside of a doctor's office until it's too late.

You support doctors gaming the system while denying people care, so that
only the most profitable medicine is practiced? You think people should
get rich from other people getting sick? No moral issues there?

Lets not forget that when George "the Greatest Prez Ever" Bush was Governor
of Texas he signed the "Texas Advanced Directives Law" that brought the
life of Sun Hudson to an end after 6-months, because it wasn't
"economically feasible" to continue his respirator. MORE evidence that
rightards who love fetuses couldn't give a **** about them once they are
born.

Starve the Beast
 

On 02/22/2011 05:32 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 02/22/2011 01:23 AM, dxAce wrote:


These people crashed the economy on purpose so they could destroy the
New Deal.

Take your meds, Dave, and revel in the knowledge that you are a Golden
Come-Along Winner!


I've been spot on so far, and you continue to be wrong and against the
people.

You continue to be full of ****, Rickmers.



Why are you always so pleasant? Old lady cut you off? ED? Too fat to
find to find your penis?

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 2/21/11 18:42 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 2/21/11 15:11 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

I hope you [Lare] have and/or can afford medical insurance with YOUR
pre-existing medical condition(s). The Big Business insurance
companies can, have and will again deny coverage to people with
pre-existing conditions.

On 2/21/2011 6:25 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Just as the Big Government insurance plan is doing today.

Seeing as the new plan has not yet been implemented, this would
presume that you are referring to what we have 'today' -- Medicare
-- which does NOT deny coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

On 2/22/2011 2:27 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Government medical plans, of any stripe turn down more pre-existing
conditions than all the insurance carriers combined.

Can you give any examples of this -- or just 'urban legend'? What
specific "Government medical planS" (plural) are you referring to other
than Medicare? (although if not overtly stated before, I believe this
discussion was focused on either Medicare or the yet to be implemented
new government plan).

The only "Government medical plan" that I know of is Medicare. Like many
old geezers, at this stage in life, I have a few "pre-existing
conditions" and when I went on Medicare, I was truly amazed at how
transparent and seamless the transition to Medicare was. And no, none of
my pre-existing conditions were an issue under Medicare.

'Voluntary' Counseling (hint hint)
 

On 02/22/2011 05:38 AM, Drooling Idiot wrote:
wrote:

You support doctors gaming the system while denying people care, so that
only the most profitable medicine is practiced? You think people should
get rich from other people getting sick? No moral issues there?

Lets not forget that when George "the Greatest Prez Ever" Bush was Governor
of Texas he signed the "Texas Advanced Directives Law" that brought the
life of Sun Hudson to an end after 6-months, because it wasn't
"economically feasible" to continue his respirator. MORE evidence that
rightards who love fetuses couldn't give a **** about them once they are
born.

The righties give themselves away when they accuse their opposition of
doing weird off the wall stuff. They are "turning things around" they
call it. Just lie and say the other guy is doing what you're actually
guilty of.

If they talk "death panels" it's because they do "death panels".

Luckily the people are waking up. Fascists always lose once the people
wake up.

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 

On 2/22/11 07:43 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 2/21/11 18:42 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 2/21/11 15:11 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

I hope you [Lare] have and/or can afford medical insurance with
YOUR
pre-existing medical condition(s). The Big Business insurance
companies can, have and will again deny coverage to people with
pre-existing conditions.

On 2/21/2011 6:25 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Just as the Big Government insurance plan is doing today.

Seeing as the new plan has not yet been implemented, this would
presume that you are referring to what we have 'today' -- Medicare
-- which does NOT deny coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

On 2/22/2011 2:27 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Government medical plans, of any stripe turn down more pre-existing
conditions than all the insurance carriers combined.

Can you give any examples of this

You don't spend any time talking to veterans, do you.