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RHF February 23rd 11 07:31 AM

Ending Your Life =for= The Good of Society -wrt- Free Obama-Care© 'Death Panel' Counseling
 
On Feb 22, 5:17 am, dave wrote:

- - On 02/21/2011 05:57 PM, RHF wrote:
- - The Obama {Elitist} Health Care Directive : Kill-Off The
- - Old To Cut the High Cost of Keeping Them Alive :
- - Pay More Taxes and More Premiums and More Fees
- - -and- Get Less Care and Less Treatment and Less Help
- - -cause- Your Death Can Be A Blessing To Society

- You are an embarrassment. Our current health care system kills
50,000
- people a year. Minimum. And those are just the ones that never see
the
- inside of a doctor's office until it's too late.
-
- You support doctors gaming the system while denying people care, so
that
- only the most profitable medicine is practiced? You think people
should
- get rich from other people getting sick? No moral issues there?

'Special-Dave' and just how many will be . . .
"Sentenced-to-Death" Daily, Weekly, Monthly,
Yearly By The Obama-Care© 'Death Panels' ? ? ?

Using Abortions* as an American (USA) Societal Index
{Benchmark} with around Two (2) Million a Year : We
Can Expect That : Around 380 Thousand Americans
per Year will be Killed-Off by the Obama-Care© 'Death
Panels'. -based-on- The Number of Baby-Boomers
Coming To The Last Years of Their Lives -wrt- The
76 Million over 20 Years = 3.8 Million per Year Facing
the Last Year with 1-in-10 {10%} being Processed by
the Obama-Care© 'Death Panels' ! ! ! -and- Being Given
a Death Sentence versus Medical Treatment : That's
380 Thousand {380, 000} Americans per Year for the
Next 20-Years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomer

! THAT'S MASSIVE EUTHANASIA ON A NATIONAL SCALE !
{Execution-By-Neglect & Death-by-Denial-of-Medical-Treatment}
Potentially 380 Thousand per Year {Death by Obama-Care©}
-and- Over 30 Thousand per Month {Death by Obama-Care©}
-around- One Thousand per Day {Death by Obama-Care©}

RHF February 23rd 11 08:18 AM

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline : Crashing The US Economy
 
On Feb 22, 5:45*am, dave wrote:
On 02/22/2011 05:38 AM, Drooling Idiot wrote:

*wrote:
You support doctors gaming the system while denying people care, so that
only the most profitable medicine is practiced? You think people should
get rich from other people getting sick? No moral issues there?


Lets not forget that when George "the Greatest Prez Ever" Bush was Governor
of Texas he signed the "Texas Advanced Directives Law" that brought the
life of Sun Hudson to an end after 6-months, because it wasn't
"economically feasible" to continue his respirator. *MORE evidence that
rightards who love fetuses couldn't give a **** about them once they are
born.


The righties give themselves away when they accuse their opposition of
doing weird off the wall stuff. They are "turning things around" they
call it. Just lie and say the other guy is doing what you're actually
guilty of.

If they talk "death panels" it's because they do "death panels".


- Luckily the people are waking up.
- Fascists always lose once the people wake up.

The People -aka- American Voters Are Waking-Up To :

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :
Crashing The US Economy
-wrt-
Ending Your Life =for= The Good of Society
-wrt- Free Obama-Care© 'Death Panel' Counseling
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...74434a4633e379

RHF February 23rd 11 08:29 AM

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline : Crashing The US Economy
 
On Feb 21, 5:03*pm, dave wrote:
On 02/21/2011 10:12 AM, dxAce wrote:



Steve, from your posts here, you appear to be just a little guy, not a
wealthy individual. Why are you so hell-bent on giving away the store to
Big Business?


- - Why are YOU so hell-bent on giving away
- - the store to Big Government?

- The only way the little guy has a chance against
- big business is to have a powerful government
- keeping big business in line. Otherwise you have
- people like BP and Goldman Sachs pushing
- everybody around.

? And Just Who Protects You {The Citizen} From
That Big and Very "Powerful" Government ?

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :
Crashing The US Economy
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...3b2069c1ce8f8a

Clave[_3_] February 23rd 11 08:30 AM

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline : Crashing The US Economy
 

"RHF" wrote in message
...

...

The People -aka- American Voters Are Waking-Up To :

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :
Crashing The US Economy..


Idiot.




dxAce February 23rd 11 09:49 AM

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 


Joe from Kokomo wrote:



Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 2/22/2011 5:10 PM, dxAce wrote:

Sorry, Dave is incorrect. You need to get your information somewhere other than
your DNC handlers.

And YOU need to get your information from somewhere other than Rush
'Oxycontin' Limpballs, the Nazi gas bag that gets paid $50 million
dollars to shill for Big Business. ;-)

C'mon Steve, you're just a little working class guy like the rest of us.
Why are you getting in bed with the greedy rich *******s?


On 2/22/2011 8:01 PM, dxAce wrote:

Why are you getting in bed with the Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialsts?

And who are the greedy rich *******s? Those who make and sell products and/or
services that you can decline to purchase by personal choice, or, those who will
steal your money via taxation, and, if you refuse to pay can come and confiscate your
worldly possessions by way of force/law?


Have you ever heard of the phrase "checks and balances"?

Do your homework, review the auto companies of the 1930s, before the
unions came into being. There was a very good reason why the unions were
needed, namely Capital's rampant abuse of Labor.

Unions have had their share of excesses, as has Big Business (witness
the current Great Recession, courtesy of Big Business greed). You NEED
checks and balances. If the Repubs get their way and make the unions
disappear, there will be no protection for labor, nothing, NOTHING to
balance runaway greed.

It's that simple -- unions, even with their imperfections, are needed to
balance the greed of Capital. Again, do your homework and find out about
all the abuses that took place before unions.

Finally, you complain about "those who will steal your money via
taxation". What are you saying? That you don't want taxes at all? That
you only want some taxes? How much is too much? I don't know about you,
but I -like- our libraries, paved roads, traffic lights, police and fire
departments, all paid for by taxes. I presume your disability benefits
are helpful to you. You can be against taxes, but make sure you don't
shoot yourself in the foot.


You really need to get out more! And, you really need to stop siding with the
Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists.



RHF February 23rd 11 10:26 AM

The Gateway-to-Geezerdom : 2010 to 2030
 
On Feb 22, 11:28*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 2/22/11 07:55 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:


On 2/21/11 15:11 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:


On 2/22/2011 2:41 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:


{stipulated}...


Just out of idle curiosity, what kind of antenna system do you use?


Just an idle answer...


I have a 130 foot long, 25-30 foot high, bent dipole between two
trees, fed with ladder line, used on 80-10 (including WARC bands)
with a Johnson KW Matchbox balanced tuner. On 160 meters, I
reconfigure the antenna to what is essentially a top loaded
vertical, using a T-match tuner.


Obviously not as good as a tower and beam, but I work lots o' DX
with it, for example the VK0IR (Heard Island) dx'pedition and North
Korea. (If you are not a ham, trust me, these are nice catches).
Needless to say, it also works nicely for SWL'ing with my vintage
receivers.


A tower would be nice, but not worth the hassle of dealing with the
(overly) strict city and subdivision restrictions.


On 2/22/2011 9:06 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

I was speaking with a ham buddy of mine, over the weekend, and he
recommended such an antenna for low noise and great digging in crowded
bands. And particularly for MW Dx. I'm tempted to do it here.


Well, it won't hurt to try it...

Your buddy says it is a quiet antenna. Compared to what? It is commonly
acknowledged that noise is more vertically polarized and thus a vertical
antenna is a bit noisier than a horizontal antenna like a dipole. I
really don't think the dipole I described is any quieter than any other
dipole AFAIK.

The reason I used the antenna was mostly because of its benefits when
transmitting. With the tuner and the ladder line feed, it will operate
on many bands with relatively low line loss. For SWL'ing, I'm not sure
if it would have any particular benefit.

Which vintage receivers are you using?


I've had many over the years, from an R-390 on down,


- but now that I am at the Gateway to Geezerdom,

You Are : 100 + 10 & 1 ! ;;-}}
-we-should-all-live-so-long-

dave February 23rd 11 01:52 PM

Glen Beck is Right!
 
On 02/23/2011 05:22 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 02/23/2011 01:49 AM, dxAce wrote:



You really need to get out more! And, you really need to stop siding with the
Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists.



I don't know about the "Marxist" thing, but the People are revolting.


Yeah, back in November we put over 700 folks into positions nationwide which were
formerly held by Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists.



We? Are you a Koch Brother? Are you part of the US Chamber of Commerce?

You had an off-year election with a 19% turnout. Not a license to undo
the New Deal. No mandate.

dxAce February 23rd 11 01:59 PM

Glen Beck is Right!
 


dave wrote:

On 02/23/2011 05:22 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 02/23/2011 01:49 AM, dxAce wrote:



You really need to get out more! And, you really need to stop siding with the
Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists.



I don't know about the "Marxist" thing, but the People are revolting.


Yeah, back in November we put over 700 folks into positions nationwide which were
formerly held by Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists.



We?


We The People. Try to pay attention, clown 'tard.



dxAce February 23rd 11 02:02 PM

We will not let you destroy the biosphere
 


dave wrote:

On 02/23/2011 05:22 AM, dxAce wrote:




And who makes more on a gallon of gasoline than the oil companies do?

Why it's government! Be it local, state or federal, they extract more $$$$'s
out of the consumer in total than those 'greedy capitalists' do.

All that without doing any exploration, drilling, transportation, or refining.


Idiot!


Clown 'tard!



dave February 23rd 11 02:06 PM

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 
On 02/23/2011 05:31 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 02/23/2011 02:30 AM, dxAce wrote:

As a former union member, my homework was done a long time ago. I suggest YOU do your
homework regarding this issue vis-a vis Wisconsin. This has nothing to do with private
sector unions, but rather public sector unions.

But in typical Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist fashion, you have attempted to twist the
issue into something else entirely.

Please, try to pay attention!


Unions are a side issue. This is about Republicans over-reaching,
claiming mandates where none exist, and politically attacking
democratic-leaning institutions for purely political reasons.


Damn! I thought it was about balancing a budget.


You can't steal all the money, then claim a crisis for which the only
cure is to fire everyone. The people see a 14 billion dollar debt and a
17 billion dollar bailout of Wall Street. They see some of the thieves
trying to break up the Unions, and they are ****ed.

You almost got away with it; the people always seem to wake up just in time.

Beware the British East India Company!

dave February 23rd 11 02:08 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
On 02/23/2011 05:32 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 02/23/2011 03:10 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:



http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO110...lways-wins.htm

??

I've decided not to buy into (purchase) your bull**** anymore, Rickmers!



All I'm selling is the reality based community, Steve.


Your drug induced reality?

Everybody does drugs, Steve. Marijuana prohibition may still exist where
you are, but elsewhere, not so much.

Caffeine, nicotine, ethanol...shall I go on?

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] February 23rd 11 02:56 PM

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline : Crashing The US Economy
 

wrote in message
...


The People -aka- American Voters Are Waking-Up To :

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :
Crashing The US Economy..


On 2/23/2011 8:22 AM, dxAce wrote:

And who makes more on a gallon of gasoline than the oil companies do?

Why it's government! Be it local, state or federal, they extract more $$$$'s
out of the consumer in total than those 'greedy capitalists' do.

All that without doing any exploration, drilling, transportation, or refining.


Nah, they just use the gas tax to build and maintain the Interstates and
local roads your petroleum powered vehicles need to move from point to
point (to say nothing of the expense of enforcing traffic laws, placing
and maintaining road signs and traffic signals). Oh, sorry, I almost
forgot. According to your thinking, that must all come for free.

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] February 23rd 11 02:58 PM

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 
dave wrote:

On 02/23/2011 02:30 AM, dxAce wrote:

As a former union member, my homework was done a long time ago. I suggest YOU do your
homework regarding this issue vis-a vis Wisconsin. This has nothing to do with private
sector unions, but rather public sector unions.

But in typical Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist fashion, you have attempted to twist the
issue into something else entirely.

Please, try to pay attention!


Unions are a side issue. This is about Republicans over-reaching,
claiming mandates where none exist, and politically attacking
democratic-leaning institutions for purely political reasons.


On 2/23/2011 8:31 AM, dxAce wrote:

Damn! I thought it was about balancing a budget.


Well, you would be wrong. The Wisconsin union gave the governor every
economic concession he asked for...and the guv turned them down cold.

This CLEARLY proves that the guv's agenda had nothing to do with
economics and EVERYTHING to do with busting the unions.

Please note that when guv Walker was the county exec in Milwaukee
County, he tried to bust the union there...and ended up costing the
taxpayers of Milwaukee County $500,000 for his folly when an independent
auditor said he illegally fired them and they had to be re-hired with
back pay. Walker has a long and sad history of trying to bust unions.

dave February 23rd 11 03:35 PM

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 
On 02/23/2011 06:06 AM, dave wrote:
On 02/23/2011 05:31 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 02/23/2011 02:30 AM, dxAce wrote:

As a former union member, my homework was done a long time ago. I
suggest YOU do your
homework regarding this issue vis-a vis Wisconsin. This has nothing
to do with private
sector unions, but rather public sector unions.

But in typical Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist fashion, you have
attempted to twist the
issue into something else entirely.

Please, try to pay attention!


Unions are a side issue. This is about Republicans over-reaching,
claiming mandates where none exist, and politically attacking
democratic-leaning institutions for purely political reasons.


Damn! I thought it was about balancing a budget.


You can't steal all the money, then claim a crisis for which the only
cure is to fire everyone. The people see a 14 billion dollar debt and a
17 billion dollar bailout of Wall Street. They see some of the thieves
trying to break up the Unions, and they are ****ed.

You almost got away with it; the people always seem to wake up just in
time.

Beware the British East India Company!


I meaned trillion

dave February 23rd 11 03:37 PM

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline : Crashing The US Economy
 
On 02/23/2011 06:56 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

wrote in message
...


The People -aka- American Voters Are Waking-Up To :

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :
Crashing The US Economy..


On 2/23/2011 8:22 AM, dxAce wrote:

And who makes more on a gallon of gasoline than the oil companies do?

Why it's government! Be it local, state or federal, they extract more
$$$$'s
out of the consumer in total than those 'greedy capitalists' do.

All that without doing any exploration, drilling, transportation, or
refining.


Nah, they just use the gas tax to build and maintain the Interstates and
local roads your petroleum powered vehicles need to move from point to
point (to say nothing of the expense of enforcing traffic laws, placing
and maintaining road signs and traffic signals). Oh, sorry, I almost
forgot. According to your thinking, that must all come for free.


Traffic signals are French and gay.

dave February 23rd 11 03:44 PM

GlenN Beck is Right!
 
On 02/23/2011 05:59 AM, dxAce wrote:




We?


We The People. Try to pay attention, clown 'tard.



If 19% of eligible voters represents The People then a corporation is a
person as defined by the 14th Amendment.

m II February 23rd 11 04:49 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
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On 11-02-23 07:08 AM, dave wrote:

Your drug induced reality?

Everybody does drugs, Steve. Marijuana prohibition may still exist where
you are, but elsewhere, not so much.

Caffeine, nicotine, ethanol...shall I go on?



The Supreme Commander is all too familiar with substance abuse. He even
posts hilarious 'gangsta' talk here after ingesting his favourite
chemicals. That's usually right after he single handedly invades Canada.



mike
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m II February 23rd 11 04:59 PM

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline : Crashing The US Economy
 
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On 11-02-23 08:37 AM, dave wrote:

Traffic signals are French and gay.



Renaming them Freedom Signs might cause mayhem at the intersections.




mike
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[email protected] February 23rd 11 05:20 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
The guy at the AT&T store said if I get on AT&T U-Verse, I can watch
live Ireland and Scotland TV, if I have an HDTV set.I will buy an HDTV
set in about a month or two.He said they can set up the installatiion
(AT&T U-Verse) for me on March 2nd.Can't do it on that date, doggy has a
dental apointment at Animal Medical Center on March 2nd, my little couch
buddy doggy comes First!

I will be at that store again this afternoon, I will let them set it up
for a later date.There is a wireless ATRIX keyboard and some other ATRIX
accessories available too.I am interested in that wireless ATRIX
keyboard.Metinks I Likes that.

I am going to find out if I can keep my AT&T land line, so I can also
keep on using WebTV.Y'all would be Supprised how handy WebTV is/can be.
cuhulin


RHF February 23rd 11 06:34 PM

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline : Crashing The US Economy
 
On Feb 23, 7:35*am, dave wrote:
On 02/23/2011 06:06 AM, dave wrote:



On 02/23/2011 05:31 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:


On 02/23/2011 02:30 AM, dxAce wrote:


As a former union member, my homework was done a long time ago. I
suggest YOU do your
homework regarding this issue vis-a vis Wisconsin. This has nothing
to do with private
sector unions, but rather public sector unions.


But in typical Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist fashion, you have
attempted to twist the
issue into something else entirely.


Please, try to pay attention!


Unions are a side issue. This is about Republicans over-reaching,
claiming mandates where none exist, and politically attacking
democratic-leaning institutions for purely political reasons.


Damn! I thought it was about balancing a budget.


You can't steal all the money, then claim a crisis for which the only
cure is to fire everyone. The people see a 14 billion dollar debt and a
17 billion dollar bailout of Wall Street. They see some of the thieves
trying to break up the Unions, and they are ****ed.


You almost got away with it; the people always seem to wake up just in
time.


Beware the British East India Company!


I meaned trillion


'Special-Dave' a Billion Times or a Trillion Times
either way you are W r o n g !

-ps- Beware the Special Dave Medical Marijuana Company !

dave February 23rd 11 07:13 PM

Fascists Have Always Been the Enemy
 
On 02/23/2011 10:34 AM, RHF wrote:


the Tea Act taxed the tea at source (i.e. in India) so there was no tax
collection in the colonies. The act allowed the tea to go directly to
America instead of having to be imported to Britain and then re-exported
to the colonies. This made the tea 9d per lb cheaper, even with the 3d
tax. It also allowed the East India Company to sell the tea exclusively
to chosen merchants (consignees) in the American colonies. This
established monopolies in America and offended colonial merchants.

In addition the government made a loan of £1.4 million to the East India
Company which was to be allowed to ship tea directly and on its own
account to America. The Company would pay the 3d duty on the tea's entry
into the colonies but was exempt from reimbursing the English customs
for the 1/- English duty which would previously have fallen on it. The
consequence was that tea would sell at 10/- per lb in America, not the
£1 which it had fetched recently. This would increase its consumption
and so the Company would be helped out of its financial difficulties.
Furthermore, the Company aided the government by taking measures against
smuggling now that it was delivering direct to America. The tea was
consigned in known quantities and to authorized merchants acting as
Company agents. However, by that time, the colonists were suspicious of
British motives and the Tea Act led directly to the Boston Tea Party.

http://www.boston-tea-party.org/tea-act.html

RHF February 23rd 11 11:21 PM

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline : Crashing The US Economy
 
On Feb 23, 1:37*pm, Firebottle3 wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:34*pm, RHF wrote:



On Feb 23, 7:35*am, dave wrote:


On 02/23/2011 06:06 AM, dave wrote:


On 02/23/2011 05:31 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:


On 02/23/2011 02:30 AM, dxAce wrote:


As a former union member, my homework was done a long time ago. I
suggest YOU do your
homework regarding this issue vis-a vis Wisconsin. This has nothing
to do with private
sector unions, but rather public sector unions.


But in typical Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist fashion, you have
attempted to twist the
issue into something else entirely.


Please, try to pay attention!


Unions are a side issue. This is about Republicans over-reaching,
claiming mandates where none exist, and politically attacking
democratic-leaning institutions for purely political reasons.


Damn! I thought it was about balancing a budget.


You can't steal all the money, then claim a crisis for which the only
cure is to fire everyone. The people see a 14 billion dollar debt and a
17 billion dollar bailout of Wall Street. They see some of the thieves
trying to break up the Unions, and they are ****ed.


You almost got away with it; the people always seem to wake up just in
time.


Beware the British East India Company!


I meaned trillion


'Special-Dave' a Billion Times or a Trillion Times
either way you are W r o n g !


-ps- Beware the Special Dave Medical Marijuana Company !
*.

- - The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :
- - Crashing The US Economy

- It's only $297.9 here,

Firebottle3 : ! "It's only $297.9 here" ! -r-o-t-f-l-

Maybe you should change the Screen-ID to : Fire-Water-3X

RHF February 23rd 11 11:44 PM

WHY ? Hasn't Warren Buffet Written A Check To The American People-versus- Giving-A-Way His Money Overseas to Foreigners . . .
 
On Feb 23, 5:43*am, dave wrote:
On 02/23/2011 05:10 AM, dxAce wrote:



dave wrote:


So, did Mr. Buffet write a check to the Feds for the difference?


I doubt it.


- He gives the money away directly via a charitable trust,

-and- THUS AVOIDING US TAXES -r-o-t-f-l-

WHY ? Hasn't Buffet Written A Check To The American People
-versus- Giving-A-Way His Money Overseas to Foreigners . . .
-why-are-the-american-tax-payers-forced-to-
-subsidizing-this-foreign-charity-giving-

[email protected] February 24th 11 06:41 AM

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline : Crashing The US Economy
 
On Feb 23, 10:37*am, dave wrote:
On 02/23/2011 06:56 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:







wrote in message
....


The People -aka- American Voters Are Waking-Up To :


The-Mark-of-the-Obama = $6.66 Gasoline :
Crashing The US Economy..


On 2/23/2011 8:22 AM, dxAce wrote:


And who makes more on a gallon of gasoline than the oil companies do?


Why it's government! Be it local, state or federal, they extract more
$$$$'s
out of the consumer in total than those 'greedy capitalists' do.


All that without doing any exploration, drilling, transportation, or
refining.


Nah, they just use the gas tax to build and maintain the Interstates and
local roads your petroleum powered vehicles need to move from point to
point (to say nothing of the expense of enforcing traffic laws, placing
and maintaining road signs and traffic signals). Oh, sorry, I almost
forgot. According to your thinking, that must all come for free.


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We need English Semaphores that are straight !

[email protected] February 24th 11 06:43 AM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
On Feb 23, 12:20*pm, wrote:
The guy at the AT&T store said if I get on AT&T U-Verse, I can watch
live Ireland and Scotland TV, if I have an HDTV set.I will buy an HDTV
set in about a month or two.He said they can set up the installatiion
(AT&T U-Verse) for me on March 2nd.Can't do it on that date, doggy has a
dental apointment at Animal Medical Center on March 2nd, my little couch
buddy doggy comes First!

I will be at that store again this afternoon, I will let them set it up
for a later date.There is a wireless ATRIX keyboard and some other ATRIX
accessories available too.I am interested in that wireless ATRIX
keyboard.Metinks I Likes that.

I am going to find out if I can keep my AT&T land line, so I can also
keep on using WebTV.Y'all would be Supprised how handy WebTV is/can be.
cuhulin


Amen. Long live WebTV .

[email protected] February 24th 11 06:48 AM

Fascists Have Always Been the Enemy
 
On Feb 23, 2:13*pm, dave wrote:
On 02/23/2011 10:34 AM, RHF wrote:



the Tea Act taxed the tea at source (i.e. in India) so there was no tax
collection in the colonies. The act allowed the tea to go directly to
America instead of having to be imported to Britain and then re-exported
to the colonies. This made the tea 9d per lb cheaper, even with the 3d
tax. It also allowed the East India Company to sell the tea exclusively
to chosen merchants (consignees) in the American colonies. This
established monopolies in America and offended colonial merchants.

In addition the government made a loan of 1.4 million to the East India
Company which was to be allowed to ship tea directly and on its own
account to America. The Company would pay the 3d duty on the tea's entry
into the colonies but was exempt from reimbursing the English customs
for the 1/- English duty which would previously have fallen on it. The
consequence was that tea would sell at 10/- per lb in America, not the
1 which it had fetched recently. This would increase its consumption
and so the Company would be helped out of its financial difficulties.
Furthermore, the Company aided the government by taking measures against
smuggling now that it was delivering direct to America. The tea was
consigned in known quantities and to authorized merchants acting as
Company agents. However, by that time, the colonists were suspicious of
British motives and the Tea Act led directly to the Boston Tea Party.

http://www.boston-tea-party.org/tea-act.html


And today it may as well be called the 'coffee--party' . Due to it's
popularity .

m II February 24th 11 06:58 AM

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 
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MEANED ?



Sure...he meant to say trillion, not billion, so, in effect, he
'demeaned' the billion. Conversely, that would imply he 'meaned' the
trillion.



mike
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[email protected] February 24th 11 07:04 AM

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 
On Feb 24, 1:58*am, m II wrote:
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Sure...he meant to say trillion, not billion, so, in effect, he
'demeaned' the billion. Conversely, that would imply he 'meaned' the
trillion.

mike
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Ah--saw !

Sébastien MEDARD February 24th 11 07:49 AM

BBC cutbacks petition
 
Hello,

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 05:25:09 -0800, dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 02:12 AM, Sébastien MEDARD wrote:
Hello,



The EU, and member governments ideology is more extreme than in the
US....

Sebastien.


I doubt that. The only place more extreme than this Hell hole is Iran or
maybe that 'stan where they boil people in oil. We are fed propaganda
and jingoism all day long. We are offered the same mediocre product with
4 different labels and we think we have a choice. Help.


Sorry, my point was not understandable enough. I was raising an economic
standpoint...

The U.S. is able to use a tool called "economic protectionism", but in
Europe, none of this is possible...

In the U.S., the government finances in a direct or indirect way
industries, in Europe we decided that it is bad...

In some ways, Europe is far more orthodox (economically speaking) than the
U.S. This results in an absence of flexibility (in Europe). Everybody
stays in his position and people suffer from the lack of imagination from
their political leaders...

Sebastien.

Sébastien MEDARD February 24th 11 05:36 PM

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :Crashing The US Economy
 
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:04:27 -0800, RHF wrote:

The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline : Crashing The US Economy


Do you know why cars in Europe drink less gasoline?

Because the governments forced the car makers to make them less thirsty.

Do you know how?

By raising the price of gasoline adding taxes...

A higher price on gasoline makes cars less thirsty.... At the end you pay
the same price for an equal distance but you better manage oil resources
and reject less **** in the air.

Sebastien.

m II February 24th 11 05:43 PM

I got mine, screw the rest of ya!
 


"m II" wrote in message ...

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Sure...he meant to say trillion, not billion, so, in effect, he
'demeaned' the billion. Conversely, that would imply he 'meaned' the
trillion.



mike
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What an idiot I am!

Billion has no clear definition except in the USA. The rest of the world has
a different counting system even though the US's conceit thinks everybody...

should be just like them.



mike (the reeled one)


Joe from Kokomo[_2_] February 24th 11 06:05 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 

On 02/23/2011 10:43 PM, wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:20 pm, wrote:
The guy at the AT&T store said if I get on AT&T U-Verse, I can watch
live Ireland and Scotland TV, if I have an HDTV set.I will buy an HDTV
set in about a month or two.He said they can set up the installatiion
(AT&T U-Verse) for me on March 2nd.Can't do it on that date, doggy has a
dental apointment at Animal Medical Center on March 2nd, my little couch
buddy doggy comes First!

I will be at that store again this afternoon, I will let them set it up
for a later date.There is a wireless ATRIX keyboard and some other ATRIX
accessories available too.I am interested in that wireless ATRIX
keyboard.Metinks I Likes that.

I am going to find out if I can keep my AT&T land line, so I can also
keep on using WebTV.Y'all would be Supprised how handy WebTV is/can be.
cuhulin


Amen. Long live WebTV .


On 2/24/2011 8:34 AM, dave wrote:

I would recommend against U-verse. Get DSL and Netflix and an antenna
for WBLT (hold the mayo). How far are you from the nearest AT&T node?


Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and mine is go FOR Uverse.

We've had it for a couple of years, works fine, lasts a long time. It
was cheaper than the previous service we had, you can have FOUR TV
programs simultaneously (3 record, one watching, 4 watching, any
combination of 4 you want), can set up record from any TV, can play back
from any TV. If you so desire, you have your voice, DSL and 4 video
channels -simultaneously- on -one- copper pair.

Bottom line: we have been very well pleased with Uverse, technically and
economically. Why do you recommend against it?

D. Peter Maus[_2_] February 24th 11 06:20 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
On 2/24/11 12:05 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 02/23/2011 10:43 PM, wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:20 pm, wrote:
The guy at the AT&T store said if I get on AT&T U-Verse, I can
watch
live Ireland and Scotland TV, if I have an HDTV set.I will buy
an HDTV
set in about a month or two.He said they can set up the
installatiion
(AT&T U-Verse) for me on March 2nd.Can't do it on that date,
doggy has a
dental apointment at Animal Medical Center on March 2nd, my
little couch
buddy doggy comes First!

I will be at that store again this afternoon, I will let them
set it up
for a later date.There is a wireless ATRIX keyboard and some
other ATRIX
accessories available too.I am interested in that wireless ATRIX
keyboard.Metinks I Likes that.

I am going to find out if I can keep my AT&T land line, so I can
also
keep on using WebTV.Y'all would be Supprised how handy WebTV
is/can be.
cuhulin

Amen. Long live WebTV .


On 2/24/2011 8:34 AM, dave wrote:

I would recommend against U-verse. Get DSL and Netflix and an antenna
for WBLT (hold the mayo). How far are you from the nearest AT&T node?


Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and mine is go FOR Uverse.

We've had it for a couple of years, works fine, lasts a long time.
It was cheaper than the previous service we had, you can have FOUR
TV programs simultaneously (3 record, one watching, 4 watching, any
combination of 4 you want), can set up record from any TV, can play
back from any TV. If you so desire, you have your voice, DSL and 4
video channels -simultaneously- on -one- copper pair.

Bottom line: we have been very well pleased with Uverse, technically
and economically. Why do you recommend against it?



Top of the list, overcompression on HD video. Lots of artifacts.
There's only so much you can slam through a copper pair.

Compared to OTA HD, which is the closest to HD you'll get, the
differences are dramatic.

During periods of very heavy usage, where there are peak numbers
of users on a radius, such as during a SuperBowl broadcast in a city
neighborhood, pixelation, stutters, and dropouts are common.

At my late G/F's place in Oak Park, during the American Idol
finals, she went back to an antenna because U-Verse was not able to
provide a reliable picture.

Internet uploads are capped on U-Verse at 384k. Have you ever
tried to upload 8GB of pictures at 384K?

There are better options to U-Verse. Not in all locations, of
course, but in populated areas, for the same money, you can get much
more performance with fewer headaches.




[email protected] February 24th 11 06:59 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
Looka here, I am a Dummy, and a Dumb Dummy at that.

AT&T U-Verse crap.I haven't signed any paper(s) on that.AT&T to install
that crap for me on Monday, March 7, 2011.

My paper the guy at that AT&T retail store (about two blocks South of
doggy's couch) handed me yesterday afternoon when I was over thar.It
says,
AT&T U-Verse TV $84/Month.
AT&T U-Verse Internet $47.00/Month.
AT&T U-Verse Voice Voice Unlimited $39.95 Month.


What the Hell!, I don't need that sheet.I can't really afford it anyway,
I am po.
What is AT&T Voice Unlimited? I rarely ever use my AT&T land line phone.

But, (like I was telling doggy just now) I wonder how AT&T TV compares
to my DirecTV? I am paying for, abouts $82.00 every month.

I think doggy would tell me, WOOF WOOF! , you better git your arse back
over thar to that AT&T store and CANCEL that sheet, before you screw up
Big Time!

Metinks doggy is 100 percent Exactly Right.
cuhulin


Joe from Kokomo[_2_] February 24th 11 08:38 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 

On 2/24/2011 8:34 AM, dave wrote:

I would recommend against U-verse. Get DSL and Netflix and an
antenna for WBLT (hold the mayo). How far are you from the
nearest AT&T node?


On 2/24/11 12:05 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and mine is go FOR Uverse.

We've had it for a couple of years, works fine, lasts a long time.
It was cheaper than the previous service we had, you can have FOUR
TV programs simultaneously (3 record, one watching, 4 watching,
any combination of 4 you want), can set up record from any TV, can
play back from any TV. If you so desire, you have your voice, DSL
and 4 video channels -simultaneously- on -one- copper pair.

Bottom line: we have been very well pleased with Uverse,
technically and economically. Why do you recommend against it?


On 2/24/2011 1:20 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Top of the list, overcompression on HD video. Lots of artifacts.


A non-issue to us as we don't subscribe to HD service. Many, many
programs are NOT (yet) in HD and with a lot of the "historical"
documentaries using ancient film, never will be...and who needs "Pawn
Stars" or "Myth Busters" in HD anyway?

There's only so much you can slam through a copper pair.


Absolutely true...and it is true magic how hard they are making that
poor little pair work!

Compared to OTA HD, which is the closest to HD you'll get, the differences are dramatic.


Probably true, but I'm not sure how fair it is to compare the 5 or 10
OTA stations you may get versus up to 400 channels on Uverse.

During periods of very heavy usage, where there are peak numbers of
users on a radius, such as during a SuperBowl broadcast in a city
neighborhood, pixelation, stutters, and dropouts are common.


Very, very rarely occurs here (or at my cousin's place 35 miles away). I
might question the design of the system in your locality.

At my late G/F's place in Oak Park, during the American Idol finals,
she went back to an antenna because U-Verse was not able to provide a
reliable picture.


Again, I would question your local design and the condition of your
local loop. A lot of that old Chicago outside plant is pretty tired, may
not have been properly de-loaded, may not have had all of the bridge tap
removed. If you have poor service, complain, report it to Repair.

Internet uploads are capped on U-Verse at 384k. Have you ever tried
to upload 8GB of pictures at 384K?


That's why the complete name is ADSL (shortened to DSL). The "A" stands
for "asymmetrical" upload/download speeds. And no, I've never had to
upload 8 GB of pictures -- nor do I suspect most "average" users have
either. If you have special needs, Uverse may not be for you...although
many DSL services are indeed ADSL too, giving you the same problem.

There are better options to U-Verse. Not in all locations, of course,
but in populated areas, for the same money, you can get much more
performance with fewer headaches.


Possibly true, but for our usage, in our area, great quality of service
and for the economic advantage, we are happy campers. Your Mileage May
Vary...

D. Peter Maus[_2_] February 24th 11 09:16 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
On 2/24/11 14:38 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 2/24/2011 8:34 AM, dave wrote:

I would recommend against U-verse. Get DSL and Netflix and an
antenna for WBLT (hold the mayo). How far are you from the
nearest AT&T node?


On 2/24/11 12:05 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and mine is go FOR Uverse.

We've had it for a couple of years, works fine, lasts a long time.
It was cheaper than the previous service we had, you can have FOUR
TV programs simultaneously (3 record, one watching, 4 watching,
any combination of 4 you want), can set up record from any TV, can
play back from any TV. If you so desire, you have your voice, DSL
and 4 video channels -simultaneously- on -one- copper pair.

Bottom line: we have been very well pleased with Uverse,
technically and economically. Why do you recommend against it?


On 2/24/2011 1:20 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Top of the list, overcompression on HD video. Lots of artifacts.


A non-issue to us as we don't subscribe to HD service. Many, many
programs are NOT (yet) in HD and with a lot of the "historical"
documentaries using ancient film, never will be...and who needs
"Pawn Stars" or "Myth Busters" in HD anyway?



The problem is that the artifacts often appear on non HD
programming, as well.



There's only so much you can slam through a copper pair.


Absolutely true...and it is true magic how hard they are making that
poor little pair work!

Compared to OTA HD, which is the closest to HD you'll get, the
differences are dramatic.


Probably true, but I'm not sure how fair it is to compare the 5 or
10 OTA stations you may get versus up to 400 channels on Uverse.



From my location, I've got 46 (on a good day), 38 HD channels
OTA, with their multiple digital subchannels.

During periods of very heavy usage, where there are peak numbers of
users on a radius, such as during a SuperBowl broadcast in a city
neighborhood, pixelation, stutters, and dropouts are common.


Very, very rarely occurs here (or at my cousin's place 35 miles
away). I might question the design of the system in your locality.


Believe me, so did I.


At my late G/F's place in Oak Park, during the American Idol finals,
she went back to an antenna because U-Verse was not able to provide a
reliable picture.


Again, I would question your local design and the condition of your
local loop. A lot of that old Chicago outside plant is pretty tired,
may not have been properly de-loaded, may not have had all of the
bridge tap removed. If you have poor service, complain, report it to
Repair.


Well, that's the problem. Repair will not address infrastructure
issues.


Internet uploads are capped on U-Verse at 384k. Have you ever tried
to upload 8GB of pictures at 384K?


That's why the complete name is ADSL (shortened to DSL).


Actually, DSL is short for DSL. ADSL is still ADSL. There is
SDSL, as well. And IDSL. But that's no longer being installed.


The "A"
stands for "asymmetrical" upload/download speeds. And no, I've never
had to upload 8 GB of pictures -- nor do I suspect most "average"
users have either. If you have special needs, Uverse may not be for
you...although many DSL services are indeed ADSL too, giving you the
same problem.


Not really. Of all the options I've investigated, in areas where
I have visited...except the cabin in Wisconsin...U-Verse is the
slowest by far for the money. For the same money, 1MB up and 3MB
down from Comcast. On a private radius.

For work, I need at least 3 MB up in order to upload a project to
meet deadlines. I've got business class service for that reason,
which replaced my T-1 last year.

U-Verse only offered 384k up on a common node.



There are better options to U-Verse. Not in all locations, of course,
but in populated areas, for the same money, you can get much more
performance with fewer headaches.


Possibly true, but for our usage, in our area, great quality of
service and for the economic advantage, we are happy campers. Your
Mileage May Vary...





[email protected] February 24th 11 10:09 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
I took doogy's ADDvice.Around 12:30 PM this afternoon, I went to the
Goodwill store and then I back tracked to the AT&T store.A very nice
lady by the name of Paula Kelly (she is as skinny as skinny twin sister
is, maybe even skinnier and pretty too) AT&T Home Consultant (she gave
me her card) lady.Paula Kelly helped me Unass/Cancel all of that AT&T
set up appointment, it took about half an hour or more to git er done.
Thank you Paula Kelly,,, you are a Real Sweatheart.

Heh, they were probally cussin me out when I left the store.

But I don't know, I still wants to buy me a real shonuff 1080 DPI
(whatever it is, dots per inch) HDTV set at one of the Cowboy Maloney
stores around here.Maybe in a couple of months or three or four,,,,,,
http://www.cowboymaloney.com
cuhulin, CANCEL


[email protected] February 24th 11 10:12 PM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
Yeah, in fact of the business,,, ask Philip Swann at
http://www.tvpredictions.com

A LOT of people think they are getting real HDTV, but they are not.
cuhulin


dave February 25th 11 01:14 AM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
On 02/24/2011 10:05 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:


Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and mine is go FOR Uverse.

We've had it for a couple of years, works fine, lasts a long time. It
was cheaper than the previous service we had, you can have FOUR TV
programs simultaneously (3 record, one watching, 4 watching, any
combination of 4 you want), can set up record from any TV, can play back
from any TV. If you so desire, you have your voice, DSL and 4 video
channels -simultaneously- on -one- copper pair.

Bottom line: we have been very well pleased with Uverse, technically and
economically. Why do you recommend against it?


Way too much money. I get Time-Warner Clear QAM broadcast basic for $20
a month. My DSL is $35 a month (fees included) for "Elite" (5 Mbps).
Netflix is $12 a month. The phone is around $16 a month (measured
service). This is $17 a month less than the U-verse introductory deal. I
am only one, maybe 2 people. I got no need for 4 DVRs (or even one). TV
is for morons.

dave February 25th 11 01:21 AM

Whoops! Monsanto Develops Pesticide Resistant Super Weeds
 
On 02/24/2011 02:12 PM, wrote:
Yeah, in fact of the business,,, ask Philip Swann at
http://www.tvpredictions.com

A LOT of people think they are getting real HDTV, but they are not.
cuhulin


That's because the cable guys still use Channel 3 and RG-6 sometimes.
Time Warner lets me do all my own installation.


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