On 04/20/2011 06:16 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 4/20/2011 6:08 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:32:36 -0700, dave wrote:

The "original intent" of the Founders is that we think for ourselves.

You so manifestly let them down.

You are a piece of crap which has managed to slip my plonk list for far
too long ...

... plonk ... into the old bit bucket!

Regards,
JS


Please, post this "plonk list" of which you speak. Mmm Bye!

Genie Bra, tee vee infomercial on the View channel.
They look 'Top Heavy'.
TILT!
cuhulin, Genie Bras R US

On 04/21/2011 05:19 AM, RHF wrote:
On Apr 20, 3:32 pm, wrote:

'Special-Dave' -proclaims- Constitution is vague
and subject to contemporary interpretation

NAH - 'SPECIAL-DAVE YOU ARE WRONG :
In a Very 'Contemporary' Way
...and... That Is My 'Interpretation' ;;-}} ~ RHF
.
'Special-Dave' -wrt- The US Constitution :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Constitution
* Read It's Words !
* Study It's Words !
* Understand It's Words !
DO NOT TRY TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES
AND "INTERPRET" IT'S WORDS INTO WHAT YOU
THINK IT SHOULD SAY AND MEAN FOR YOUR
21ST CENTURY 'IT'S ALL GOOD*' LIFESTYLE

I have no "lifestyle". I live a very austere existence of forced
deprivation as this gives me spiritual strength. I am also better
equipped psychologically for the coming upheaval.

John Smith wrote:

On 4/20/2011 9:01 AM, Jarbidge wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 02:17:23 -0700, Michael Bachmann wrote:

One of the serious presidential candidates that is leading the pack is
Billionaire on Paper Donald Trump who is ranting and raving about a
birth certificate that Obama has produced for the public.


LYING DIP****!

He produced a cheap photocopy, NOT an original as asked.

DROP DEAD!


This page explains why a "Certification of Live Birth" as opposed to a
"Certificate of Live Birth", at least in the year of obamas' birth --
1961, is open to doubt:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/...ver-for-obama/


HERE IS ONE IMPORTANT PART, taken from the page:

"The document posted on the web alleged to be and wrongly referred to as
Obama’s birth certificate is titled CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH, and
only certifies a baby was born. The purpose of the Certification is to
provide documentation for those babies and children who do not have a
real birth certificate because they were born at home or outside the
country without benefit of a hospital or doctor. When there is no proof
of hospital or doctor it proves nothing, just the information attested
to by the person filling out the application for a certified document.
This is one of the biggest lies promulgated by people ignorant of the
facts such as Bill O’Reilly and Megyn Kelly of FOX who continue to claim
that what is posted on the internet is the real deal."

nutter!

peace and justice,

"Bill Shatzer" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:

On 4/20/2011 9:01 AM, Jarbidge wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 02:17:23 -0700, Michael Bachmann wrote:

One of the serious presidential candidates that is leading the pack is
Billionaire on Paper Donald Trump who is ranting and raving about a
birth certificate that Obama has produced for the public.


LYING DIP****!

He produced a cheap photocopy, NOT an original as asked.

DROP DEAD!


This page explains why a "Certification of Live Birth" as opposed to a
"Certificate of Live Birth", at least in the year of obamas' birth --
1961, is open to doubt:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/...ver-for-obama/
HERE IS ONE IMPORTANT PART, taken from the page:

"The document posted on the web alleged to be and wrongly referred to as
Obama’s birth certificate is titled CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH, and only
certifies a baby was born. The purpose of the Certification is to provide
documentation for those babies and children who do not have a real birth
certificate because they were born at home or outside the country without
benefit of a hospital or doctor. When there is no proof of hospital or
doctor it proves nothing, just the information attested to by the person
filling out the application for a certified document. This is one of the
biggest lies promulgated by people ignorant of the facts such as Bill O’Reilly
and Megyn Kelly of FOX who continue to claim that what is posted on the
internet is the real deal."

nutter!


Billy channels Curt ...

--
"I'm the man who broke the bank at Monte Carlo ..."

D. Peter Maus wrote:


The actual intentions of the Founders, the specific meanings of their
words, and how they chose the language of the Constitution is found in
the Federalist Papers.

The clarity you seek, is there.

Well, no. The Federalist papers are the thoughts of only two of the
fifty some convention delegates (Jay wasn't even at Philadelphis)

And ignoring the fact that the authors of the Federalist Papers left
many meanings unaddressed, they are no help at all on any of the
subsequent amendments.

peace and justice,

On 4/21/11 18:23 , Bill Shatzer wrote:
D. Peter Maus wrote:


The actual intentions of the Founders, the specific meanings of
their words, and how they chose the language of the Constitution
is found in the Federalist Papers.

The clarity you seek, is there.

Well, no. The Federalist papers are the thoughts of only two of the
fifty some convention delegates (Jay wasn't even at Philadelphis)

They are the thoughts of the men who wrote the document. There is
no one better to clarify the use of language.

On 4/21/2011 3:58 PM, Bill Shatzer wrote:
John Smith wrote:

On 4/20/2011 9:01 AM, Jarbidge wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 02:17:23 -0700, Michael Bachmann wrote:

One of the serious presidential candidates that is leading the pack is
Billionaire on Paper Donald Trump who is ranting and raving about a
birth certificate that Obama has produced for the public.


LYING DIP****!

He produced a cheap photocopy, NOT an original as asked.

DROP DEAD!


This page explains why a "Certification of Live Birth" as opposed to a
"Certificate of Live Birth", at least in the year of obamas' birth --
1961, is open to doubt:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/...ver-for-obama/


HERE IS ONE IMPORTANT PART, taken from the page:

"The document posted on the web alleged to be and wrongly referred to
as Obama’s birth certificate is titled CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH,
and only certifies a baby was born. The purpose of the Certification
is to provide documentation for those babies and children who do not
have a real birth certificate because they were born at home or
outside the country without benefit of a hospital or doctor. When
there is no proof of hospital or doctor it proves nothing, just the
information attested to by the person filling out the application for
a certified document. This is one of the biggest lies promulgated by
people ignorant of the facts such as Bill O’Reilly and Megyn Kelly of
FOX who continue to claim that what is posted on the internet is the
real deal."

nutter!

peace and justice,


Yeah, truth can be stranger than fiction. When Hawaii became a state,
laws concerning birth certificates became VERY lax (well, they were lax
to begin with, to be truthful.) The most important goal were as many
citizens of Hawaii as possible ... influence with house and senate
representatives, population numbers which qualified for various forms of
"federal aid" and assistance, etc. were STRONG motivators ... those
unfamiliar with Hawaiis' history would/will need some time to review it
all ...

Regards,
JS

On 4/21/2011 4:17 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:

...
Billy channels Curt ...


Has he been certified by shirley maclaine? To channel?

Yanno', pretty much, anyone making application at the local nuthouse can
get certification chuckle.

Regards,
JS

On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:23:25 -0700, Bill Shatzer wrote:


peace and justice,


peaking of 911...


How can you be such a damned traitor?



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Bill Shatzer wrote:

And over 4,000 Americans have paid with their lives for that little
adventure. Plus a half a trillion dollars in national treasure
You might compare that with the number of lives lost on 9-11. Or the
economic injury incurred from that event.
It would have been cheaper in both lives and money to just suffer
another 9-11 every six or seven years.
Peace and justice,
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