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On Jun 22, 6:52*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 6/22/2011 6:29 PM, American wrote:

On Jun 22, 10:59 am, John *wrote:
On 6/22/2011 10:26 AM, American wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:12 am, John * *wrote:
On 6/22/2011 8:56 AM, American wrote:

On Jun 22, 7:35 am, John * * *wrote:
On 6/22/2011 1:55 AM, HVAC wrote:

...
Why do you god believers have such a hard-on for ether?

Is it because neither actually exists? Is that it?

No.

It is because they would have to be willing to look like you, a complete
moron, to deny this is all a creation of a creator, and something can
exist within nothing ... it takes a mind of certain capabilities to be
able to use logic and reason, and allowing the individual(s) in question
the ability to conventionalize the complexities ... to realize what
platforms are necessary to set this all in motion, to have it in
existence ...

To morons, the answer is simple, "It all just happened." *And, "It just
did it on its' own." *Such doesn't bother complete idiots ... indeed,
this serves as good enough explanation to them, works on children and
retards too, and for good reasons!

It is obvious, Einstein was on to something ...

Regards,
JS

If an aetherist really wanted to throw an iron in the fire, he could
validate himself first by claiming that Einstein's Theory of
Relativity is not a Law, but just a theory. In that sense, a theory
cannot be proven. But there are other ways of stating the formula:
E=m_e(c^2)=lambda_e(W_k)(W_x)=e(W_x), where lambda_e represents the
wavelength of the electron, W_k represents the wave intrinsic to the
particle (or to the linear momentum carried by the massfree particle,
usu. equal to de Broglie's pilot or group wave, with W_x representing
the particle, or "extrinsic" to momentum, that is analogous to de
Broglie's phase wave, and "e" representing the charge of the
electron).

Thus the Einstein equation offers only the electromagnetic portion of
mass-energy, and must be taken into consideration with the fine
structure of the mass-energy, as the fine structure relates to the
condensate of the "aether", and not the electromagnetic field.

Enter scalar electromagnetics, where the electron represents a
spherical standing wave with an "in" portion and "out" portion. Each
of their "potential" amplitudes are actually infinite at the center of
the spherical standing wave, but when both opposites are forced to
combine, they form a standing wave of finite amplitude. That amplitude
is a scalar, and not an electromagnetic vector.

Thus the speed of light is not so much a barrier as it is a speed of
energy exchange.

American

"Feynman died in 1988 before his partner John Wheeler met
* * Peter Lynds who is now promoting an ancient Greek theory
* * on Infinity."

* * - The Brodericks, on the movie "Infinity - Feynman"

The truth is open to the eyes ...

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite
direction." -- Albert Einstein

In a truly empty box, there is no room -- there is no "space", only an
idiot could possibly call any container "empty" which contains
"spacetime" or the ether, there simply would be nothing to hold the
sides, top and bottom apart!

You fall prey to the same mistake most make, if your ideas have been in
error long enough, they become truth! *However, on close examination,
that is false, in itself ...

Regards,
JS

Ever heard of John Archibald Wheeler? There's the "Participatory
Anthropic Principle" that formulates that it was other observers
that create our reality. If so, is that why humans pray to a
higher form of intelligence, i.e. "God, YHWH, Lord", rather
than hope that we'll have enough money to pay the
humanist piper?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler

The multinationalist banking, unions, and (non-aetheric) fundamen-
talist colonialists are left having to explain for themselves why
things should always continue as they have been, since the days
of Woodrow Wilson (Father of Modern Progressivism). IMO
presidents Lincoln through Wilson, with the possible exception
of Taft, proved that most political parties since Tesla, remained
in the back pockets of the wealthy transnationalists, who would
use fear, uncertainty, and death (FUD) to serve their own,
metered energy needs.

Who are people like Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Romney, Cain,
Palin, Pawlenty, and Bachmann? They're all just in the front of
a very long line of puppets and ponzi schemes, designed to
rip off the population at the expense of the multinationalists.
Yeah, the problem is deep and runs through treacherous
waters. America is being set up for another "Greece",
even after Einstein himself (1921) was quoted as saying:

"It strikes me as unfair, and even in bad taste, to select a few
* *individuals for boundless admiration, attributing superhuman
* *powers of mind and character to them. This has been my
* *fate, and the contrast between the popular assessment of
* *my powers and achievements and the reality is simply
* *grotesque."

What ever happened to "Realville", as opposed to "Literalville"?
With data skewed based upon political agendas, and status-
quo agendas based upon everything that has been done
before, all the while what's left of the heathen, gets taxed
and spent to death without a single squeak about the massive
lie being perpetrated inside the iron beltway.

American

"Paul Revere of Boston, in the Colony of the Massachusetts
* *Bay in New England; of Lawfull Age, doth testify an say;
* *that I was sent for by Docr. Joseph Warren, of said Boston,
* *on the evening of the 18th of April, about 10 oClock; When
* *he desired me, "to go to Lexington, and inform Mr Samuel
* *Adams, and the Honl. John Hancock Esqr. that there
* *was a number of Soldiers, composed of Light troops,&
* *Grenadiers, marching to the bottom of the Common, where
* *was a number of Boat to receive them; it was supposed, that
* *they were going to Lexington, by the way of Cambridge River,
* *to take them, or go to Concord, to distroy the Colony Stores."

* *- Part of the Paul Revere, Deposition [Fair copy], c. 1775,
* * *Special Collections Revere, Massachusetts

Some things are relevant to radio, gravity, ether, energies, etc.,
politicians and forefathers are not, with the exception of Benjamin
Franklin who "discovered" electricity ...

Regards,
JS

I don't understand why my posts are disappearing. There was a
lot of text missing that should have been posted.

One has to mention forefathers, as they relate to original intent
of the U.S. Constitution. Major corporations have created a
monster out of the Corporate State, disqualifying the present
Constitution as a non-organic one, replacing the Thirteenth
Amendment "If any citizen of the United States shall accept,
claim, receive, or retain, any title of nobility or honor, or shall,
without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present,
pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any
emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall
cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be
incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them,
or either of them", and adding fraudulent amendments to
replace it. The 14th and 16th amendments were never
ratified by the states!

Yes, I kinda of look at that as being in the same light as "too big to
fail", but, in this case, "too criminal to prosecute." *Imprisoning
those who have committed minor crimes and treason, and hanging the worst
offenders ...

http://www.uhuh.com/constitution/am13-fgd.htm

Democracy replaces Republicanism with "mob rule" rather
than "government of the people and by the people", and "we
the people". If you follow the paper trail, it is rule by the
Vatican,
which utilizes the "mob rule" principle. The "Crown" is the king's
corporation, setup to do the King's business and protect the
King from any liability (Anyone say "B.P.'?). The bankers and
the crown dress up their candidates for office, help them obtain
election, and then control them while in office. Supposedly,
one is supposed to have a choice, when both major political
parties and other political parties are controlled by them.

Yes, I am thinking we are going to have to go to a direct democracy to
correct all these problems, and remove many of the powers of decision we
trust them with, from them. *One man, one vote, and the direct vote of
the people establishes law, and I would begin by making the old ones put
though the process and removed from the books if not accepted by a
majority of the people ...

Where are all of the new ideas being generated? Not in
the current FUD state - that one's owned by most lobbyists.
Major media is used to direct and control public opinion,
that lies somewhere between the two hammers of the
current Republican and Democratic "establishments".

American

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me
* and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country.
* Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in
* high places will follow, and the money power of the country
* will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices
* of the people, until the wealth of the nation is aggregated in
* a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed."

* - Abraham Lincoln, commenting after the passage of the
* *National Banking Act of 1863 - the forerunner of the Federal
* *Reserve Act of 1913.

If it were up to me, I see sufficient reason to imprison 50%-75% of
them, a lot for life ... I'd hang a few, clinton, bush, and obama
amongst them ...

Regards,
JS

At least Clinton had to admit to a few mistakes, so let us hope Obama
can do the same without getting himself assassinated.

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On Jun 22, 12:20*pm, wrote:
Certain Radio Frequencies travel through the Earth too.U.S.Navy has, or
used to have, such a system.I read about that in one of my Popular
Science snail mail magazines back in the 1960s.I also snail subscribe to
Popular Mechanics magazine, maybe that article I read was in one of my
1960s Popular Mechanics magazines.That was a million years ago, so I
don't exactly remember which magazine it was in.
cuhulin, mit dur foggy memory *

Was that similar to telluric currents or some other phenomenon ? Ah-
hah! Must be ground penetrating waves !!!

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On 6/22/2011 8:33 PM, John Smith wrote:


Once this is all realized, it becomes quite simple, and can be summed up
in few words, "something" cannot come from "nothing."


Then how do you account for your 'creator' ?



PS- Our universe didn't come from 'nothing'... It came from
and infinitely small, infinitely dense, point singularity.










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On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 05:21:59 -0400, HVAC wrote:

On 6/22/2011 8:33 PM, John Smith wrote:


Once this is all realized, it becomes quite simple, and can be summed up
in few words, "something" cannot come from "nothing."


Then how do you account for your 'creator' ?

You don't believe in a "creator" now, do you? That's about the
kookiest notion I've ever heard, and from an avowed anti-kook.

PS- Our universe didn't come from 'nothing'... It came from
and infinitely small, infinitely dense, point singularity.

Now you're really getting into the absurd.

Our universe evolved out of pure energy, fyi.

John Ayres

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On 6/23/2011 2:21 AM, HVAC wrote:
On 6/22/2011 8:33 PM, John Smith wrote:


Once this is all realized, it becomes quite simple, and can be summed up
in few words, "something" cannot come from "nothing."


Then how do you account for your 'creator' ?



PS- Our universe didn't come from 'nothing'... It came from
and infinitely small, infinitely dense, point singularity.


Did you even take the time to find what Einstein said on the creator?

Do you just climb up in your highchair and await your spoon feeding? Do
you just close you mouth when you don't find the babys' pablum to your
liking, expecting a serving of another food? ROFLOL!

Oh, you found the big bang theory, and read it, and grok it, huh? It
certainly is Alexander Friedmann interpretation of Einsteins'
relativity, a universe bent in such a very strange way that everything
"runs" away from everything else. However, it is quite possible that
the red shift is NOT from the doppler effect, and is actually because of
this influence:

http://www.nature.com/news/2011/1106....2011.346.html

or even another, for that matter, can you think of one?

"Gravity" is not a force, the "force" is the ether, gravity is the
byproduct/description of where/how ether "forces" things ... and, of
course, the compton effect counts for something ...

How might Friedmann have misinterpreted Einsteins equations? What did
Einstein say on the matter which would be in disagreement, or agreement
with Friedmann?

What does Einstein and his equations say which support Friedmanns'
theory, and what could Friedmann have misinterpreted there?

Can you find a good spoon feeding on the net, or not?

Have you taken time to sort things out, or do you just demand spoon
feedings like other dime-a-dozen morons who have imagined themselves to
be genius material? The time period which you take to review any
material(s) and the promptness of your inquiries support the latter!

ROFLOL! Childrens' minds, one thing that is guaranteed to fail is their
ability to see themselves for what they are! They are so busy and
trapped in defense of their preconceived notions, and angry at their
questioning/failures that they lash out in anger ... failing to notice
the lashing are landing squarely upon their backs ... and they are
stumbling over the "crap" they toss about as diversions ... interesting.
A simple course in human psychology would point out to them, that this
is a common human trait and failure of ego ...

Regards,
JS

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"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 6/22/2011 12:39 PM, Hägar wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 6/21/2011 7:15 AM, herbert glazier wrote:


I wonder how many buck balls are in our solar system and between the
stars? Should we call them 'Liz Taylors" (diamonds). Space has a
continual flow of neutrinos and photons. Space is hot with microwaves
It is tachrons giving their energy to give life to virtual space
particles,and their waves. Tachrons make the aether the universe's
most dynamic place. TreBert



Bert: PLEASE tell me you were drunk when you wrote that.

The only other assumption one could draw from you post is
that you suffer from Down's Syndrome. In other words, you're
a ****ing retard.

No offense, of course.


He's right up there with that Missoura hillbilly noTroll and his
homesick trailer and Gubmint free cheese dreams. They
probably had the same father, Alley Oop.



You guys are just "****-talkers", no offense, of course ... I mean, some
must like that sort of thing ... I guess.

Them thar Missoura hillbilly noTroll and his "sock" clans
live for that stuff. The best news for them, ever, was when
Japanese scientists announced that they can now create
"meat" from human fecal matter. The hillbillies never again
will have to call on the "honey wagon" to have their holding
tank pumped ... instant "meat" instead ... bon appetite, my
little woodland urchins and bed-wetters.

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On Jun 23, 6:31*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/23/2011 2:21 AM, HVAC wrote:

On 6/22/2011 8:33 PM, John Smith wrote:

Once this is all realized, it becomes quite simple, and can be summed up
in few words, "something" cannot come from "nothing."

Then how do you account for your 'creator' ?

PS- Our universe didn't come from 'nothing'... It came from
and infinitely small, infinitely dense, point singularity.

Did you even take the time to find what Einstein said on the creator?

Do you just climb up in your highchair and await your spoon feeding? *Do
you just close you mouth when you don't find the babys' pablum to your
liking, expecting a serving of another food? *ROFLOL!

Oh, you found the big bang theory, and read it, and grok it, huh? *It
certainly is Alexander Friedmann interpretation of Einsteins'
relativity, a universe bent in such a very strange way that everything
"runs" away from everything else. *However, it is quite possible that
the red shift is NOT from the doppler effect, and is actually because of
this influence:

http://www.nature.com/news/2011/1106....2011.346.html

or even another, for that matter, can you think of one?

"Gravity" is not a force, the "force" is the ether, gravity is the
byproduct/description of where/how ether "forces" things ... and, of
course, the compton effect counts for something ...

How might Friedmann have misinterpreted Einsteins equations? *What did
Einstein say on the matter which would be in disagreement, or agreement
with Friedmann?

What does Einstein and his equations say which support Friedmanns'
theory, and what could Friedmann have misinterpreted there?

Can you find a good spoon feeding on the net, or not?

Have you taken time to sort things out, or do you just demand spoon
feedings like other dime-a-dozen morons who have imagined themselves to
be genius material? *The time period which you take to review any
material(s) and the promptness of your inquiries support the latter!

ROFLOL! *Childrens' minds, one thing that is guaranteed to fail is their
ability to see themselves for what they are! *They are so busy and
trapped in defense of their preconceived notions, and angry at their
questioning/failures that they lash out in anger ... failing to notice
the lashing are landing squarely upon their backs ... and they are
stumbling over the "crap" they toss about as diversions ... interesting.
* A simple course in human psychology would point out to them, that this
is a common human trait and failure of ego ...

Regards,
JS

HVAC was on an IV-drip far too long, so that actually feeding was no
longer necessary. Seriously fat people can't even get out of bed,
much less feed themselves or service their private parts.

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On Jun 23, 7:04*am, "H gar" wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message

...









On 6/22/2011 12:39 PM, H gar wrote:
*wrote in message
...
On 6/21/2011 7:15 AM, herbert glazier wrote:

I wonder how many buck balls are in our solar system and between the
stars? *Should we call them 'Liz Taylors" (diamonds). Space has a
continual flow of neutrinos and photons. Space is hot with microwaves
It is tachrons giving their energy to give life to virtual space
particles,and their waves. *Tachrons make the aether the universe's
most dynamic place. TreBert

Bert: *PLEASE tell me you were drunk when you wrote that.

The only other assumption one could draw from you post is
that you suffer from Down's Syndrome. *In other words, you're
a ****ing retard.

No offense, of course.

He's right up there with that Missoura hillbilly noTroll and his
homesick trailer and Gubmint free cheese dreams. *They
probably had the same father, Alley Oop.

You guys are just "****-talkers", no offense, of course ... I mean, some
must like that sort of thing ... I guess.

Them thar Missoura hillbilly noTroll and his "sock" clans
live for that stuff. *The best news for them, ever, was when
Japanese scientists announced that they can now create
"meat" from human fecal matter. *The hillbillies never again
will have to call on the "honey wagon" to have their holding
tank pumped ... instant "meat" instead ... bon appetite, my
little woodland urchins and bed-wetters.

Why do you care?

Have you ever contributed something/anything truly original to
humanity, or on behalf of improving the environment?

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On 6/23/2011 10:20 AM, Brad Guth wrote:


HVAC was on an IV-drip far too long, so that actually feeding was no
longer necessary. Seriously fat people can't even get out of bed,
much less feed themselves or service their private parts.


That's why god, in his infinite wisdom, gave the world Brad Guth...

.....To service fat people's private parts.











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On 6/23/2011 7:04 AM, Hägar wrote:

...
Them thar Missoura hillbilly noTroll and his "sock" clans
live for that stuff. The best news for them, ever, was when
Japanese scientists announced that they can now create
"meat" from human fecal matter. The hillbillies never again
will have to call on the "honey wagon" to have their holding
tank pumped ... instant "meat" instead ... bon appetite, my
little woodland urchins and bed-wetters.



Yes, when you consider the full ramifications, takes the term
"self-sufficient" to whole other levels!

But they are japanese, shouldn't they be working on fecal-rice and
fecal-sushi?

Regards,
JS