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, Brad Guth writes On Jun 11, 5:53*pm, John Vreeland wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:49:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 2, 2:53*pm, John Smith wrote: On 6/2/2011 10:17 AM, Warhol wrote: ... our ancient TV Tubes work with a bended electrical arc Beam in vacuum... ... You are going to have to look to Einstein to even get a "sense" and a "feel" about the slippery stuff, ether. It is not like any matter we know, it is completely alien to us. *We do not possess senses to detect it, and there are no instruments, yet, which will. One very un-intuitive quality of ether? *It passes through your vacuum tubes like the glass envelopes don't even exist, and all other parts of the tube, for that matter ... but then, I doubt you have a mind which can even begin to fathom speculation on ether -- so you are pretty much stuck where you are! Regards, JS If something/anything is moving FTL, such as gravity, then we can't possibly detect it even though it is still there. *Perhaps the matrix or flow of ether is simply FTL. Gravity is not FTL. *It moves at the speed of light. *This is why we can speak of gravity waves. *If you could observe two black holes orbiting close to one another from within the plane of their orbit you would feel the gravitational field change as each one flew by you. That changing field radiates outward in a spiral shape aligned with the plane of their orbit. If the ether exists it is undetectable. *If it exists it must be relativistic so that you cannot measure your movement through it. -- My years on the mudpit that is Usnenet have taught me one important thing: three Creation Scientists can have a serious conversation, if two of them are sock puppets. When was this speed of gravity objectively verified as c? September 8, 2002 Kopeikin measured it as c times 1.06 (but with an error range of plus or minus 0.21) by observing the gravitational lensing effect of Jupiter. -- John Ritson |
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