In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
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In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
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On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that
the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first
president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the
Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to
raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.

Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put
into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off,
either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?

Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that has
no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?

I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in a
steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just by
flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us
that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama
the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than
the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no
need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.

Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has
put
into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it
off, either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?

Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that
has no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?

I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in
a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just
by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?


Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on
his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an
unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc.

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006
elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama
campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of
the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. The economy was
in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on
passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to
focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs
to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on
Bush.

--
RD (The Sandman)

Thought for the day.......

Handle every stressful situation like a dog would.
If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away.

On Jul 25, 2:44*pm, RD Sandman wrote:
Alan Baker wrote :









In article ,
*RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:

In article ,
*RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
*"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
om...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, *wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us
that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama
the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?

The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than
the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no
need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.

Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has
put
into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it
off, either.

How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?

Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that
has no validity?

Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?

I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in
a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just
by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?

Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. *Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. *Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on
his watch. *Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an
unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. *

- We also had a Democratically controlled House
- and Senate since the 2006 elections and lack
- of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,

The Point Being here is that if you want
to Blame Bush for Everything Pre-Obama:
Then Honesty Requires you to include both
Pelosi and Reid in the Blame Game Too !

Prez-A-Duntz can not Sign Laws that Both
Houses of the US Congress Do Not Pass as Bills
===== Bush & Pelosi & Reid =====

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us
that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama
the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than
the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no
need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.

Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has
put
into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it
off, either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?

Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that
has no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?

I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in
a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just
by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?


Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on
his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an
unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc.

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006
elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama
campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of
the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. The economy was
in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on
passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to
focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs
to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on
Bush.

Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...idential_terms


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

On Jul 25, 5:09*pm, Alan Baker wrote:

In article ,
*RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
*RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:

In article ,
*RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
*"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
om...

On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, *wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us
that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama
the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?

The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than
the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no
need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.

Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put
into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it
off, either.

How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?

Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that
has no validity?

Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?

I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in
a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just
by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?

Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. *Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. *Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on
his watch. *Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an
unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. *

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006
elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama
campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of
the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. *The economy was
in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on
passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to
focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. *I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs
to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on
Bush.

Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...idential_terms

U.S. president Party Term years Start jobs* End jobs* created (in
millions) Average annual increase
George W. Bush R 2001–2005 132,469 132,453 +0.0 -0.0%
George W. Bush R 2005–2009 132,453 133,563 +1.1 +0.1%
Barack Obama D 2009–2013 133,563 131,753 (May 2011) -1.81 (May
2011) -.54% (May. 2011/Roughly 2.5 Years)
*In Thousands

Obama: -54%

To-wit: "Obama the jobs loser."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

Barack Hussien Obama, Jr.:
-All the answers as a candidate;
-No solutions as the president!

If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist you'll
have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not stupid!"

"Sunday, January 20th, 2013 - The End of an Error"

"Experience is a wonderful thing; it enables us to recognize
Left-Wing Lying Liberal Socialist LOSER Democrat™ BS
when we read it again and Again; and AGAIN!"
— Me

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am,
wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among
us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making
Obama the first president to preside over a U.S.
DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years
than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would
be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.

Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has
put
into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level
it off, either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?

Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse
that has no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and
your implication?

I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was
in a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed
just by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?


Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million
on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars,
an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc.

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the
2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,
Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a
continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under
Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama
was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance
reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama
needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame
things on Bush.

Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields....

Yep, too many folks on both sides have them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...esidential_ter
ms

What did you want me to look at on that cite? The 1.1 million created
under Bush or the 1.81 lost under Obama? That is what those + and -
signs mean, don't ya' know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms


How about:

07/25/2011 14,535,921,315,199
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

We could use the 2000 fiscal year end and start Bush with $5.7T and
ending with $10.1T. Now Obama is at $14.5T after only 2.5 years. Let's
see that is Bush at $4.4T in 8 years and Obama at $4.4T in less than 3.
Got it. Thanks.


--
RD (The Sandman)

Thought for the day.......

Handle every stressful situation like a dog would.
If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away.

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million
on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars,
an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc.

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the
2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,
Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a
continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under
Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama
was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance
reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama
needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame
things on Bush.

Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields....

Yep, too many folks on both sides have them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...esidential_ter
ms

What did you want me to look at on that cite? The 1.1 million created
under Bush or the 1.81 lost under Obama? That is what those + and -
signs mean, don't ya' know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms


How about:

07/25/2011 14,535,921,315,199
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

We could use the 2000 fiscal year end and start Bush with $5.7T and
ending with $10.1T. Now Obama is at $14.5T after only 2.5 years. Let's
see that is Bush at $4.4T in 8 years and Obama at $4.4T in less than 3.
Got it. Thanks.

Hmmmm...

You brought Clinton into the discussion, but suddenly you don't want to
include him anymore...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

Crazy Luke Woodham (what he did about fourteen years ago, I think it was
about fourteen years ago) is asking for clemency.
Missy Sippy Governor Haly Barbour (is Barbour a Frog name? I think so)
said, I would be flabbergasted if the parole board reccomended clemency.

Luke Woodham will ROT and DIE in Parchman State Prison!
cuhulin

Fort Hood Plot: AWOL U.S.Serviceman Arrested
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=311112

AWOL MORON G.W.Bush is Stilllllllllllll AWOL!!!
cuhulin

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and
the regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets
and the Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8
million new home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire
for 5.5 million on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we
had 9/11, two wars, an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc.

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the
2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie
Mac, Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a
continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under
Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and
Obama was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill
(insurance reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama
needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame
things on Bush.

Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields....

Yep, too many folks on both sides have them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr..._presidential_
ter ms

What did you want me to look at on that cite? The 1.1 million
created under Bush or the 1.81 lost under Obama? That is what those
+ and - signs mean, don't ya' know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...esidential_ter
ms


How about:

07/25/2011 14,535,921,315,199
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

We could use the 2000 fiscal year end and start Bush with $5.7T and
ending with $10.1T. Now Obama is at $14.5T after only 2.5 years.
Let's see that is Bush at $4.4T in 8 years and Obama at $4.4T in less
than 3. Got it. Thanks.

Hmmmm...

You brought Clinton into the discussion, but suddenly you don't want
to include him anymore...


What nmakes you think that? I also included his last fiscal year
budget.....simply because during Clinton is where some of the seeds of
our current predicament were sown. Your tendency was to place ALL the
blame on Bush.....

--
RD (The Sandman)

Thought for the day.......

Handle every stressful situation like a dog would.
If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away.