Thomas Heger wrote in news:9g1pg5FcguU1
@mid.individual.net:


Well, I would agree to 'just math and knowing where things are'.

But that 'just math' is quite challenging, if you have only a
handcranked 'computer' with a few k Ram.

And knowing where everything is is difficult, too. Today they have GPS,
that would help a lot - if installed at the moon.

But without radar and satellite navigation things are VERY di

Are you a complete and utter moron?

How do you think people navigated across open oceans or seas before all
that crap was invented?

How do you think navigators, navigated?

You will deny every aspect of reality to feed your delusions.

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

"Gray Guest" wrote in message
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Thomas Heger wrote in news:9g1pg5FcguU1
@mid.individual.net:


Well, I would agree to 'just math and knowing where things are'.

But that 'just math' is quite challenging, if you have only a
handcranked 'computer' with a few k Ram.

And knowing where everything is is difficult, too. Today they have GPS,
that would help a lot - if installed at the moon.

But without radar and satellite navigation things are VERY di

Are you a complete and utter moron?

How do you think people navigated across open oceans or seas before all
that crap was invented?

How do you think navigators, navigated?

You will deny every aspect of reality to feed your delusions.


I'll also point out that in the 60s there were no handheld calculators that
did various algebraic and trigonometrical functions.
You had slide rules for 3 meaningful digits and log tables for more
meaningful digits.
And computers were mainframes that had very few real-time applications where
you could dynamically change the data set on the fly, and immediately
recalculate. Not to mention that their processing speed was slower than a
cheap $5 calculator you pick up at Walgreens or Wal-Mart.

"SaPeIsMa" wrote in message
.. .
And computers were mainframes that had very few real-time applications
where you could dynamically change the data set on the fly, and
immediately recalculate. Not to mention that their processing speed was
slower than a cheap $5 calculator you pick up at Walgreens or Wal-Mart.

I remember when the mainframe group where I worked were jealous that they
had to run a compile overnight, but the "PC" group did ours with a simple
press of the "F5" key. :-)

"Tom S." wrote in message
...
"SaPeIsMa" wrote in message
.. .
And computers were mainframes that had very few real-time applications
where you could dynamically change the data set on the fly, and
immediately recalculate. Not to mention that their processing speed was
slower than a cheap $5 calculator you pick up at Walgreens or Wal-Mart.

I remember when the mainframe group where I worked were jealous that they
had to run a compile overnight, but the "PC" group did ours with a simple
press of the "F5" key. :-)


That was also true of the "mini" computers like the PDP series.
Although many ran compiled software like COBOL and FORTRAN, some ran
interpreted software, like BASIC, APL, etc
In many cases, there were libraries of compiled routines that could be
called, and the interpreted portions were simple the main logic like making
a series of calls to compiled routines.
I also remember the territorial fights between the mainframe, mini, and
desktop crowds..
I spent a lot of time as a consultant mediating separation of tasks and
responsibilities to optimize operations.

On Oct 17, 4:08*pm, "SaPeIsMa" wrote:
"Gray Guest" wrote in message

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Thomas Heger wrote in news:9g1pg5FcguU1
@mid.individual.net:

Well, I would agree to 'just math and knowing where things are'.

But that 'just math' is quite challenging, if you have only a
handcranked 'computer' with a few k Ram.

And knowing where everything is is difficult, too. Today they have GPS,
that would help a lot - if installed at the moon.

But without radar and satellite navigation things are VERY di

Are you a complete and utter moron?

How do you think people navigated across open oceans or seas before all
that crap was invented?

How do you think navigators, navigated?

You will deny every aspect of reality to feed your delusions.

I'll also point out that in the 60s there were no handheld calculators that
did various algebraic and trigonometrical functions.
You had slide rules for 3 meaningful digits and log tables for more
meaningful digits.
And computers were mainframes that had very few real-time applications where
you could dynamically change the data set on the fly, and immediately
recalculate. Not to mention that their processing speed was slower than a
cheap $5 calculator you pick up at Walgreens or Wal-Mart.

Dollar-Tree Store has 8-Digit Calculators
with Memory Recall and Square Root for...
-you-got-it-!-just-a-buck- One Dollar [$1]

"RHF" wrote in message
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On Oct 17, 4:08 pm, "SaPeIsMa" wrote:
"Gray Guest" wrote in message

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Thomas Heger wrote in news:9g1pg5FcguU1
@mid.individual.net:

Well, I would agree to 'just math and knowing where things are'.

But that 'just math' is quite challenging, if you have only a
handcranked 'computer' with a few k Ram.

And knowing where everything is is difficult, too. Today they have
GPS,
that would help a lot - if installed at the moon.

But without radar and satellite navigation things are VERY di

Are you a complete and utter moron?

How do you think people navigated across open oceans or seas before all
that crap was invented?

How do you think navigators, navigated?

You will deny every aspect of reality to feed your delusions.

I'll also point out that in the 60s there were no handheld calculators
that
did various algebraic and trigonometrical functions.
You had slide rules for 3 meaningful digits and log tables for more
meaningful digits.
And computers were mainframes that had very few real-time applications
where
you could dynamically change the data set on the fly, and immediately
recalculate. Not to mention that their processing speed was slower than a
cheap $5 calculator you pick up at Walgreens or Wal-Mart.

Dollar-Tree Store has 8-Digit Calculators
with Memory Recall and Square Root for...
-you-got-it-!-just-a-buck- One Dollar [$1]
.

I was in Engineering School in the Early seventies.
My Texas Instrument calculator cost me over $1000 at about 40% MSRPl because
I was a "loss leader" sale.
I was not allowed to use during my exams, because it would have been unfair
to those who couldn't afford buying one. Slide rules or Log Tables only.

"SaPeIsMa" wrote in
:


"Gray Guest" wrote in message
.100...
Thomas Heger wrote in news:9g1pg5FcguU1
@mid.individual.net:


Well, I would agree to 'just math and knowing where things are'.

But that 'just math' is quite challenging, if you have only a
handcranked 'computer' with a few k Ram.

And knowing where everything is is difficult, too. Today they have
GPS, that would help a lot - if installed at the moon.

But without radar and satellite navigation things are VERY di

Are you a complete and utter moron?

How do you think people navigated across open oceans or seas before all
that crap was invented?

How do you think navigators, navigated?

You will deny every aspect of reality to feed your delusions.


I'll also point out that in the 60s there were no handheld calculators
that did various algebraic and trigonometrical functions.
You had slide rules for 3 meaningful digits and log tables for more
meaningful digits.
And computers were mainframes that had very few real-time applications
where you could dynamically change the data set on the fly, and
immediately recalculate. Not to mention that their processing speed was
slower than a cheap $5 calculator you pick up at Walgreens or Wal-Mart.





How does he think ballistic calculations were done back then? American
warships were getting first shot hits on a moving target form a moving gun
platform in WWII! The moment guns could fire other than direct fire
ballistics became an issue and ballistic tables were generated - by hand.

Lordy, what has the world come to?

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

On Oct 18, 8:05*am, Gray Guest wrote:
"SaPeIsMa" wrote :











"Gray Guest" wrote in message
4.100...
Thomas Heger wrote in news:9g1pg5FcguU1
@mid.individual.net:

Well, I would agree to 'just math and knowing where things are'.

But that 'just math' is quite challenging, if you have only a
handcranked 'computer' with a few k Ram.

And knowing where everything is is difficult, too. Today they have
GPS, that would help a lot - if installed at the moon.

But without radar and satellite navigation things are VERY di

Are you a complete and utter moron?

How do you think people navigated across open oceans or seas before all
that crap was invented?

How do you think navigators, navigated?

You will deny every aspect of reality to feed your delusions.

I'll also point out that in the 60s there were no handheld calculators
that did various algebraic and trigonometrical functions.
You had slide rules for 3 meaningful digits and log tables for more
meaningful digits.
And computers were mainframes that had very few real-time applications
where you could dynamically change the data set on the fly, and
immediately recalculate. Not to mention that their processing speed was
slower than a cheap $5 calculator you pick up at Walgreens or Wal-Mart.

How does he think ballistic calculations were done back then? American
warships were getting first shot hits on a moving target form a moving gun
platform in WWII! The moment guns could fire other than direct fire
ballistics became an issue and ballistic tables were generated - by hand.

Lordy, what has the world come to?

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

Now Now "GG" Don't Go 'Ballistic' !

On 10/18/2011 12:11 PM, RHF wrote:
On Oct 18, 8:05 am, Gray wrote:
wrote :











"Gray wrote in message
.100...
Thomas wrote in news:9g1pg5FcguU1
@mid.individual.net:

Well, I would agree to 'just math and knowing where things are'.

But that 'just math' is quite challenging, if you have only a
handcranked 'computer' with a few k Ram.

And knowing where everything is is difficult, too. Today they have
GPS, that would help a lot - if installed at the moon.

But without radar and satellite navigation things are VERY di

Are you a complete and utter moron?

How do you think people navigated across open oceans or seas before all
that crap was invented?

How do you think navigators, navigated?

You will deny every aspect of reality to feed your delusions.

I'll also point out that in the 60s there were no handheld calculators
that did various algebraic and trigonometrical functions.
You had slide rules for 3 meaningful digits and log tables for more
meaningful digits.
And computers were mainframes that had very few real-time applications
where you could dynamically change the data set on the fly, and
immediately recalculate. Not to mention that their processing speed was
slower than a cheap $5 calculator you pick up at Walgreens or Wal-Mart.

How does he think ballistic calculations were done back then? American
warships were getting first shot hits on a moving target form a moving gun
platform in WWII! The moment guns could fire other than direct fire
ballistics became an issue and ballistic tables were generated - by hand.

Lordy, what has the world come to?

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

Now Now "GG" Don't Go 'Ballistic' !
.

Probably was fired by a damn poor marksman also ...

Regards,
JS

RHF wrote in news:7e603e5d-2937-43c3-abaa-
:

On Oct 18, 8:05*am, Gray Guest wrote:
"SaPeIsMa" wrote
innews:HoSdnYKjGKp9KAHTnZ2dnUVZ_h
:











"Gray Guest" wrote in message
4.100...
Thomas Heger wrote in news:9g1pg5FcguU1
@mid.individual.net:

Well, I would agree to 'just math and knowing where things are'.

But that 'just math' is quite challenging, if you have only a
handcranked 'computer' with a few k Ram.

And knowing where everything is is difficult, too. Today they have
GPS, that would help a lot - if installed at the moon.

But without radar and satellite navigation things are VERY di

Are you a complete and utter moron?

How do you think people navigated across open oceans or seas before
al
l
that crap was invented?

How do you think navigators, navigated?

You will deny every aspect of reality to feed your delusions.

I'll also point out that in the 60s there were no handheld calculators
that did various algebraic and trigonometrical functions.
You had slide rules for 3 meaningful digits and log tables for more
meaningful digits.
And computers were mainframes that had very few real-time applications
where you could dynamically change the data set on the fly, and
immediately recalculate. Not to mention that their processing speed
was
slower than a cheap $5 calculator you pick up at Walgreens or Wal-
Mart.

How does he think ballistic calculations were done back then? American
warships were getting first shot hits on a moving target form a moving
gu
n
platform in WWII! The moment guns could fire other than direct fire
ballistics became an issue and ballistic tables were generated - by
hand.

Lordy, what has the world come to?

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

Now Now "GG" Don't Go 'Ballistic' !
.


It just baffles me that people this stupid vote. No wonder we are so
screwed up.

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.