On 9/27/2011 6:25 PM, J R wrote:
Small gun? Predator 2 is up next on the FMC channel.Sneaky alien
creature skinning drug dealers in 1997 City of the Angels,You better git
a Bigger Gun.
cuhulin


Used to carry a BIG one, really didn't hide well ... now this is my choice:

http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/

Even a 9mm can go though a wall and do more damage than you want to
accept responsibility for ... if you are good with a firearm, a .32
Beretta, like the wife carries, is plenty. If they are any farther from
you than what those weapons can cover, your first choice should be in
running ... loss of ego is much better than the time and hassle of
explaining a fatal shooting to sufficiency ... there are just too many
people willing to have you take far greater risks with your life than
you are willing to give them ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote in :

.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

**** that ya pansy. 6.5" M-29 in a vertical shoulder holster. Extra speed
loaders on your belt.


--
"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to
tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself.
But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world,
and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one
question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"

On Sep 27, 4:29*pm, John Smith wrote:
.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. *Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

Evidently Bond Arms was advertising on the
Michael Savage {Savage Nation} Radio Show
http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/

Usually for a Women the 1st Shot is the Only Shot.

So a .410 Derringer with a Load of # 4 Buck Shot
would be more than enough to put any Attacker
in a Room 'down' with ~10 Pellets {~25 Cal} with
a 2"~3" wide shot pattern and 6"~12" of penetration.

Note : "00" Buck Shot is not recommend for up
close 'In-the-Room' Self-Defense.

~ RHF

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On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:29:19 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

**** that. This is a much better weapon.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/index.html

Five shots, better reload time, much more accurate.

Leave it to Johnny Kook to pick a POS like a Bond Arms 2 shot.

Dozens of better guns out there.

Depends on what you're after.

On a shot per shot basis, the .410 is going to deliver more to target.

effectively ten 30 caliber pellets to target in the time it takes to pull
the trigger twice.

Whereas the Ruger is going to take 5 trigger pulls, a reload, and than
another 5 trigger pulls.

That's not to say that one is a better gun than the other, but as in so much
it depends on what you're looking for it to do.

Also the .410 loading is generally reported to have a fairly high 1 shot
stop percentage, since you are usually effectively hitting the target
multiple times in 1 shot.

Based on reports and testing, the rounds that produce the best one shot
stops are those that produce a nice hydrostatic shock wave in the blood
pressure that effectively shuts down the brain for a period of time. Now
that's not to say they are going to stay down, only that they are going to
drop on the first shot and stay down for a bit. Shotguns do this quite
effectively since they tend to dump a large part of their energy to a broad
section of the body inducing such a hydrostatic shock. This, of course,
depends upon a reasonably direct impact to center mass.

So it all depends on your preferences, choices, and so on.

My biggest objection would be the weight of the piece which IMO makes it
less of a carry piece. On the other hand it's flat which again IMO makes it
easier to conceal than a revolver.


I never understood the whole "weight" thing. A half pound or so more
than a lightweight gun never bothered my at all. I carried a S&W 28 6+
1/2" at work for 40 hours a week and they don't come a lot heavier than
that. Give me steel always. No plast...er polymer, for me.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

This morning around 6 sumpin AM, it wasen't doggy that woked me up, it
was a lot of loud wierd sounding thunder and buku lightning and heavy
duty rain.Around 10 sumpin AM old country boy's next door neighbor said,
You aren't working today? Old country boy (he works at The Can Man metal
recycling place on Valley Street) said, Naw man, its too rough out
there!

Stingray.
http://www.cryptome.org/index.html

Stingray.
http://www.rense.com

Stingray.
http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html

Stinnnnnnnng-Ray.
Its Too Rough Out There!!!!!
cuhulin

On 9/27/2011 7:59 PM, Harry Callahan wrote:
John wrote in :

.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

**** that ya pansy. 6.5" M-29 in a vertical shoulder holster. Extra speed
loaders on your belt.



LOL!!! Or, an old school Thompson in a violin case!

Regards,
JS

On Sep 27, 10:59*pm, Harry Callahan wrote:

**** that ya pansy. 6.5" M-29 in a vertical shoulder holster. Extra speed
loaders on your belt.

--
"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to
tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself.
But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world,
and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one
question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"

Well, do ya, punk?

Obviously the problem here is you bunch of penis envy guys are letting
a bunch of Hollywood liberals create your reality for you. And they
were all born without brains. (Say, doesn't that bad guy in the ad
attacking the blond in the car sort of look like the Governator?)

No, you DO NOT want a derringer. What, you are all a bunch of high
rolling gamblers? No, you DO NOT want a derringer that shoots .410
shotgun shells. A derringer is a gut gun. It can't be aimed at all.
even .410 kicks like a mule and you probably will have trouble hanging
on to the piece. Plus it's so small it essentially has NO barrel and
if that weren't bad enough, it's a LOT fatter than you think giving
you the "turtle in the pants" look if you have it in a pocket.

You clowns have been watching the Death Wish marathon too much. Only
an idiot would try to carry a .44 magnum like Dirty Harry. Given the
flame that shoots out plus the recoil you'd have a much better chance
of burning the bad guy alive than shooting him! Not to mention you'd
be deaf for a couple days if you shot it inside!

Turn off the TV and leave the theater and just go get a nice little .
380 double action pocket rocket. And then PRACTICE with it so that
when your life is on the line you actually can HIT something with it
besides the floor and ceiling! A nice stainless steel .38 revolver
can work too. No .357 or +P bull****. You want to be EFFECTIVE (means
stay alive) not prove who has the biggest John Thomas. And Oh yeah, go
take an NRA safety course as soon as you get it before you hurt
yourself or someone else.

Benj wrote in news:4e629d22-fdfc-4846-9496-
:

On Sep 27, 10:59*pm, Harry Callahan wrote:

**** that ya pansy. 6.5" M-29 in a vertical shoulder holster. Extra
speed
loaders on your belt.

--
"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well,
t
o
tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track
myself.
But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the
world
,
and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one
question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"

Well, do ya, punk?

Obviously the problem here is you bunch of penis envy guys are letting
a bunch of Hollywood liberals create your reality for you. And they
were all born without brains. (Say, doesn't that bad guy in the ad
attacking the blond in the car sort of look like the Governator?)

No, you DO NOT want a derringer. What, you are all a bunch of high
rolling gamblers? No, you DO NOT want a derringer that shoots .410
shotgun shells. A derringer is a gut gun. It can't be aimed at all.
even .410 kicks like a mule and you probably will have trouble hanging
on to the piece. Plus it's so small it essentially has NO barrel and
if that weren't bad enough, it's a LOT fatter than you think giving
you the "turtle in the pants" look if you have it in a pocket.

You clowns have been watching the Death Wish marathon too much. Only
an idiot would try to carry a .44 magnum like Dirty Harry. Given the
flame that shoots out plus the recoil you'd have a much better chance
of burning the bad guy alive than shooting him! Not to mention you'd
be deaf for a couple days if you shot it inside!

Turn off the TV and leave the theater and just go get a nice little .
380 double action pocket rocket. And then PRACTICE with it so that
when your life is on the line you actually can HIT something with it
besides the floor and ceiling! A nice stainless steel .38 revolver
can work too. No .357 or +P bull****. You want to be EFFECTIVE (means
stay alive) not prove who has the biggest John Thomas. And Oh yeah, go
take an NRA safety course as soon as you get it before you hurt
yourself or someone else.


Actually genius, I carry an S&W 908 8+1 single stack nine. I can keep all
of them in the kill ring of a B-27 target as fast as I can work the trigger
at 7 yards.

It's called a joke. I was mocking John Tiny Dick. Do I need to lend you a
quarter to buy a clue?

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

On 9/27/2011 10:39 PM, Benj wrote:
On Sep 27, 10:59 pm, Harry wrote:

**** that ya pansy. 6.5" M-29 in a vertical shoulder holster. Extra speed
loaders on your belt.

--
"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to
tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself.
But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world,
and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one
question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"

Well, do ya, punk?

Obviously the problem here is you bunch of penis envy guys are letting
a bunch of Hollywood liberals create your reality for you. And they
were all born without brains. (Say, doesn't that bad guy in the ad
attacking the blond in the car sort of look like the Governator?)

No, you DO NOT want a derringer. What, you are all a bunch of high
rolling gamblers? No, you DO NOT want a derringer that shoots .410
shotgun shells. A derringer is a gut gun. It can't be aimed at all.
even .410 kicks like a mule and you probably will have trouble hanging
on to the piece. Plus it's so small it essentially has NO barrel and
if that weren't bad enough, it's a LOT fatter than you think giving
you the "turtle in the pants" look if you have it in a pocket.

You clowns have been watching the Death Wish marathon too much. Only
an idiot would try to carry a .44 magnum like Dirty Harry. Given the
flame that shoots out plus the recoil you'd have a much better chance
of burning the bad guy alive than shooting him! Not to mention you'd
be deaf for a couple days if you shot it inside!

Turn off the TV and leave the theater and just go get a nice little .
380 double action pocket rocket. And then PRACTICE with it so that
when your life is on the line you actually can HIT something with it
besides the floor and ceiling! A nice stainless steel .38 revolver
can work too. No .357 or +P bull****. You want to be EFFECTIVE (means
stay alive) not prove who has the biggest John Thomas. And Oh yeah, go
take an NRA safety course as soon as you get it before you hurt
yourself or someone else.

It's like DUH!

You don't want to aim, you might not even have time to aim, you want to
point and shoot and have some of those buckshot to hit its' target ...
once you get the upper edge, have your safe spot to defend, you can pull
out the backup and take time ... that derringer is one serious piece of
shootin' power ... just shoot yourself in the little finger, or little
toe to check it out ... but I would use the barrel with the .357/.38 ...
the buckshot might take off your whole hand!

Regards,
JS

On 9/27/2011 11:50 PM, Gray Guest wrote:

...
Actually genius, I carry an S&W 908 8+1 single stack nine. I can keep all
of them in the kill ring of a B-27 target as fast as I can work the trigger
at 7 yards.

It's called a joke. I was mocking John Tiny Dick. Do I need to lend you a
quarter to buy a clue?


Probably good to point out that professionals, govt. terminators, pay
for kill, etc. use a .22 - .24 cal.

But then, the worst kill I ever seen was with a chain ... I remember
thinking at the time, "I'd have preferred to have been killed with a
bullet, or two ..."

Regards,
JS