"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 26.10.2011 00:48, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 21.10.2011 15:46, schrieb SaPeIsMa:



But there are more similarities: e.g. Jews and Muslims have
circumcision (what is a rare fact otherwise), do not eat pig and
practise (or practised) stoning (what is an extremely cruel and brutal
punishment).


OH wow
A bunch of desert people have the same health practices, which therefore
makes their religions similar.

No, I mean they are the same people. The religions are different of
course. But since they are the same people, these religious originate from
the same roots.


That's about as meaningful as claiming that fruits and vegetables are from
the same soil
An Oxymoron


A more recent example would be Catholics and Protestants. Both have the
same roots in Christianity, but they fought bitter and long lasting wars.
Germany was almost completely destroyed and depopulated through this, even
if they were all Christians.


The Catholic-Protestant wars were primarily power, politics and
geo-political control
Religion was just the justification.


Some thousand years ago, there was a religion in the area, were is now
Jerusalem. This religion was ancestor to all following religions from the
same roots. From this believe these religions have developed into their
current different forms. The roots have to be the same, since the
religions are in parts identical: use the same metaphors, stories,
characters and even locations.


You write a lot, but the useful content is really in short supply.



Circumcision is only one example or cultural identity of the people
addressed. It is - of course - not a 'healthy habit', but a (pseudo-)
religious practise.


Actually circumcision IS a healthy habit.
In an area where water is in short supply, it's far easier to avoid
infection of the penile glans by removing the foreskin.
It's also noted that removing the foreskin also reduces the incidence of
transmitted diseases as well



It's a bad thing - btw - because it changes the appearance of the human
body, that is intended to be as perfect as it is and not as humans want it
to be.


LOL
Tell us about the perfection of the appendix, which an kill you if it gets
inflamed and the ONLY way to avoid being killed by an inflamed appendix is
to excise it.



Christianity and Judaism share in total the bibles first part.

Christianity is 'modified Judaism' (through prophet) as Islam is.
Since 'modification' is a heretic crime, worth death penalty, these
religions hate each other since ancient times (for no apparent reason).


DOH ! again

Jesus was NO "prophet"
He was, according to the Christians, the Messiah predicted in the Old
Testament and also the Son of God

Islam says Jesus was a prophet. Jews do not mention him (since Judaism was
created earlier). Islam was created later, hence could mention him.
But the bible is ABOUT Jesus, not written by him. A prophet is someone,
who manages to write things down and tell that to the people. Apparently
Mohamed was a prophet (but I have only limited knowledge about Islam)

Muhammad, on the other hand was no prophet at all, he was a minor war
lord who wanted to extend his power by upgrading himself to a religious
prophet

I have no idea, from what sources prophets are chosen, but 'little
warlord' would not exclude him from such a position.


When the Christians rejected him, he started his own cult, a big part of
which is to kill just about anyone both inside and outside of his cult.
The COMPLETE ANTITHESIS of Christianity..

Actually the Christians killed a few people, too. They really love to
kill: Muslims, Indians, Africans, each other ...


YOU need to read up on history and do a body count
Compared to the Muslims, the only group that has killed a larger number of
people are the Communists.

Am 26.10.2011 15:37, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 26.10.2011 00:48, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

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A more recent example would be Catholics and Protestants. Both have
the same roots in Christianity, but they fought bitter and long
lasting wars. Germany was almost completely destroyed and depopulated
through this, even if they were all Christians.


The Catholic-Protestant wars were primarily power, politics and
geo-political control
Religion was just the justification.

R E A L L Y ???
...

Actually circumcision IS a healthy habit.
In an area where water is in short supply, it's far easier to avoid
infection of the penile glans by removing the foreskin.
It's also noted that removing the foreskin also reduces the incidence of
transmitted diseases as well



It's a bad thing - btw - because it changes the appearance of the
human body, that is intended to be as perfect as it is and not as
humans want it to be.


LOL
Tell us about the perfection of the appendix, which an kill you if it
gets inflamed and the ONLY way to avoid being killed by an inflamed
appendix is to excise it.

Well, I think, this practise is intentional altering of the human body.
I do not really like it. Its like piercing or tattoos, what I don't like
neither.

But people may do what they like.

Another question is, what you do with your kids, since these cannot
defend themselves. Early childhood traumata of any sort are generally
unhealthy.

...


When the Christians rejected him, he started his own cult, a big part of
which is to kill just about anyone both inside and outside of his cult.
The COMPLETE ANTITHESIS of Christianity..

Actually the Christians killed a few people, too. They really love to
kill: Muslims, Indians, Africans, each other ...


YOU need to read up on history and do a body count
Compared to the Muslims, the only group that has killed a larger number
of people are the Communists.

Communism is a bad thing in my eyes and closely related to fascism.
Personally I think, that fascism and communism are two sides of the same
coin. Both - btw- have roots in London. Marx and Engels lived there.

The Brits supported the communists and are themself responsible for a
few massacres. But I even think, the Brits supported the Nazis, too.
Hitler could possibly be a kind of 'British spy'. The entire story of
the so called third Reich is more than dubious. Most likely its all fake
and crime. But I cannot tell anything for sure.

I usually follow ideas and inspirations, then research, read, look at
old pictures or films.

Usually I try to find inconsistencies. One of these was a 'storm belt'
over the wrong shoulder - on a person that opens the door of a car for
Hitler. This means, the film is reverted and left and right exchanged.
Possibly to hide the fact, that the car was designed to drive on the
left side.


TH

"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 26.10.2011 15:37, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 26.10.2011 00:48, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

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A more recent example would be Catholics and Protestants. Both have
the same roots in Christianity, but they fought bitter and long
lasting wars. Germany was almost completely destroyed and depopulated
through this, even if they were all Christians.


The Catholic-Protestant wars were primarily power, politics and
geo-political control
Religion was just the justification.

R E A L L Y ???
..

Yes really
Haven't you studied history ?



Actually circumcision IS a healthy habit.
In an area where water is in short supply, it's far easier to avoid
infection of the penile glans by removing the foreskin.
It's also noted that removing the foreskin also reduces the incidence of
transmitted diseases as well



It's a bad thing - btw - because it changes the appearance of the
human body, that is intended to be as perfect as it is and not as
humans want it to be.


LOL
Tell us about the perfection of the appendix, which an kill you if it
gets inflamed and the ONLY way to avoid being killed by an inflamed
appendix is to excise it.

Well, I think, this practise is intentional altering of the human body. I
do not really like it. Its like piercing or tattoos, what I don't like
neither.


NOPE
Piercing and tats provide NO health benefits' like circumcision


But people may do what they like.

Another question is, what you do with your kids, since these cannot defend
themselves. Early childhood traumata of any sort are generally unhealthy.


That is a question that has been asked,
Too bad that there is very little evidence to suppor the notion that it
causes lifelong trauma..


..


When the Christians rejected him, he started his own cult, a big part
of
which is to kill just about anyone both inside and outside of his cult.
The COMPLETE ANTITHESIS of Christianity..

Actually the Christians killed a few people, too. They really love to
kill: Muslims, Indians, Africans, each other ...


YOU need to read up on history and do a body count
Compared to the Muslims, the only group that has killed a larger number
of people are the Communists.

Communism is a bad thing in my eyes and closely related to fascism.
Personally I think, that fascism and communism are two sides of the same
coin. Both - btw- have roots in London. Marx and Engels lived there.

The Brits supported the communists and are themself responsible for a few
massacres. But I even think, the Brits supported the Nazis, too. Hitler
could possibly be a kind of 'British spy'. The entire story of the so
called third Reich is more than dubious. Most likely its all fake and
crime. But I cannot tell anything for sure.

I usually follow ideas and inspirations, then research, read, look at old
pictures or films.

Usually I try to find inconsistencies. One of these was a 'storm belt'
over the wrong shoulder - on a person that opens the door of a car for
Hitler. This means, the film is reverted and left and right exchanged.
Possibly to hide the fact, that the car was designed to drive on the left
side.



LOL
You are a conspiracy nit

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:49:43 -0500, "SaPeIsMa"
wrote:

NOPE
Piercing and tats provide NO health benefits' like circumcision

What are the measured health benefits of circumcision in any first
world country? (Some study which compared health of populations).

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

On 10/27/2011 4:35 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:49:43 -0500,
wrote:

NOPE
Piercing and tats provide NO health benefits' like circumcision

What are the measured health benefits of circumcision in any first
world country? (Some study which compared health of populations).


For some strange reason, I am tempted to say I have never seen anyone
improve on natures/Gods' design with a knife ... I should doubt that
there is a single exception to this ...

However, that said, this should be no argument or reason to deny the
practice of relatively "safe" procedures such as ear piercings, tattoos,
circumcisions, etc. to those so desiring.

Regards,
JS

"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 10/27/2011 4:35 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:49:43 -0500,
wrote:

NOPE
Piercing and tats provide NO health benefits' like circumcision

What are the measured health benefits of circumcision in any first
world country? (Some study which compared health of populations).


For some strange reason, I am tempted to say I have never seen anyone
improve on natures/Gods' design with a knife ... I should doubt that there
is a single exception to this ...


Appendectomy
If you don't use that knife, you die.

And a lot of the Biblical constraints do have some basis in better
sanitation and health
Circumcision included.

On 10/27/2011 6:29 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 10/27/2011 4:35 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:49:43 -0500,
wrote:

NOPE
Piercing and tats provide NO health benefits' like circumcision

What are the measured health benefits of circumcision in any first
world country? (Some study which compared health of populations).


For some strange reason, I am tempted to say I have never seen anyone
improve on natures/Gods' design with a knife ... I should doubt that
there is a single exception to this ...


Appendectomy
If you don't use that knife, you die.

And a lot of the Biblical constraints do have some basis in better
sanitation and health
Circumcision included.



Yes, but the appendix does have a purpose, surgery is not an
improvement, but in cases of infection, a life saving fix ... but then,
if you had gangrene in your penis, a surgeon might be a very desirable
thing ... one can always hope for positive results from reconstructive
surgery, later ... silly-grin

Regards,
JS

"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:49:43 -0500, "SaPeIsMa"
wrote:

NOPE
Piercing and tats provide NO health benefits' like circumcision

What are the measured health benefits of circumcision in any first
world country? (Some study which compared health of populations).


Have at it
http://www.circinfo.net/

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:27:40 -0500, "SaPeIsMa"
wrote:

What are the measured health benefits of circumcision in any first
world country? (Some study which compared health of populations).


Have at it
http://www.circinfo.net/

I see a list of benefits, but so far haven't found a statistical
analysis of them. I have to leave shortly and will follow links when
I get back.

It's not hard to find lists of benefits for almost any medical
procedure. And there are tests being done by physicians that are
statistically more dangerous than the disease they test for. Whether
or not this applies to circumcision should be tested with actual
studies that include the measured dangers & benefits of circumcision.

The important word above is "measured".

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Am 27.10.2011 22:49, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 26.10.2011 15:37, schrieb SaPeIsMa:
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The Catholic-Protestant wars were primarily power, politics and
geo-political control
Religion was just the justification.

R E A L L Y ???
..

Yes really
Haven't you studied history ?


No, engineering.
But I forgot the 'irony smiley' (don't know, how that looks like)

...
Another question is, what you do with your kids, since these cannot
defend themselves. Early childhood traumata of any sort are generally
unhealthy.


That is a question that has been asked,
Too bad that there is very little evidence to suppor the notion that it
causes lifelong trauma..

The subject drifts a little too far away from the subject of this
thread. (And somehow it is not my business, just my feeling tells me,
that I wouldn't do that.)
...

The Brits supported the communists and are themself responsible for a
few massacres. But I even think, the Brits supported the Nazis, too.
Hitler could possibly be a kind of 'British spy'. The entire story of
the so called third Reich is more than dubious. Most likely its all
fake and crime. But I cannot tell anything for sure.

I usually follow ideas and inspirations, then research, read, look at
old pictures or films.

Usually I try to find inconsistencies. One of these was a 'storm belt'
over the wrong shoulder - on a person that opens the door of a car for
Hitler. This means, the film is reverted and left and right exchanged.
Possibly to hide the fact, that the car was designed to drive on the
left side.



LOL
You are a conspiracy nit


Thats why I write on alt.conspiracy ;-)

I like this thread, because the collection of other boards that
participate is amazing. Usually I wouldn't write about golf, shortwave
or guns.


TH