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RD Sandman wrote:
Alan Baker wrote in : So? Apple's suddenly an evil empire because they make hardware and Microsoft doesn't? Microsoft does make hardware. It is called a mouse. Old joke: "What can you do with your PC that I can't do with my MAC?" "Right-click." |
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"WrongWayWade" wrote in news:j72172$d4h$1@dont-
email.me: RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : So? Apple's suddenly an evil empire because they make hardware and Microsoft doesn't? Microsoft does make hardware. It is called a mouse. Old joke: "What can you do with your PC that I can't do with my MAC?" "Right-click." ;) -- Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman) Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue over a bar bill on the Titanic..... |
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On 10/11/11 11:56 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
"WrongWayWade" wrote in news:j72172$d4h$1@dont- email.me: RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : So? Apple's suddenly an evil empire because they make hardware and Microsoft doesn't? Microsoft does make hardware. It is called a mouse. Old joke: "What can you do with your PC that I can't do with my MAC?" "Right-click." ;) Or just plug a multi-button USB mouse into the Mac; problem solved ;) (I'll admit that I've done exactly that on my desktop machine - reaching for the Control key when clicking in order to activate context menus gets old fast.) - x. |
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On 10/11/2011 11:02 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 10/11/11 11:52 , John Smith wrote: On 10/11/2011 8:16 AM, D Peter Maus wrote: On 10/11/11 01:15 , John Smith wrote: On 10/10/2011 2:30 PM, D Peter Maus wrote: On 10/10/11 16:27 , Alan Baker wrote: In , John wrote: Your post is an excellent example of what I have found about "Apple People", they have a religious devotion to the platform ... Your post is an excellent example of someone who believes that anyone who sees value where you do not must do it out of religious devotion... Personally, the only reason I use a PC, and refuse MAC's, is that I write much of the software I use ... plus, I private contract to develop software on multiple platforms (even though I am retired, for the most part) ... while most of that could be done on a MAC, it simply would not make economic sense, for me ... I mean, I am in the business to make money -- NOT pay money to apple ... apple has worked hard in being one of the most proprietary corps I have ever seen, I think they can do that without me ... In what way is the Mac more "proprietary" than Windows from your perspective? The fact that they've always sold computers with their own OS? You can write software for that platform just as you can for Windows or for Linux. Windows doesn't hold patents on the hardware, to run their software, just for starters ... and, they don't have an iphone, or even an idildo, for that matter! ROFLOL So? Apple's suddenly an evil empire because they make hardware and Microsoft doesn't? Actually, you have missed the point, gotten off track, the conversation I seen was focused on fools and overpaying for the same bang less buck will do ... It isn't that apple is evil for taking fools money, the fools always end up giving it to some one ... nor are the fools evil ... evil just doesn't really apply. If fools willingly give you money, I am not aware of any crimes which have been broken, nor evil criminals at fault ... I mean, like, DUH! Regards, JS As I said: How arrogant to assume that anyone who sees value in what you do not must be a fool... It's a cultural standard, today. Hey, I am not the one into social standards! You apparently aren't into reading, either. I said nothing about social standards. I responded to the comment about the arrogance of dismissal of values not one's own. THAT is a cultural standard, today. I freely admit that a MAC can do anything a PC can do ... the PC can just do it faster, cheaper and usually better ... Which exactly explains why there are so many Windows PC's at JPL. You may not have said the exact words, but if the point that this/these argument(s)/discussion(s), for many, is centering around computers as status symbols and the ownership being regarded, by some, as some kind of social status standard, then I am at a loss for words ... as it seems quite apparent to me. I didn't even address the issue of social status. ReRead carefully. I addressed the issue of the technique of dismissing someone's position as foolish because it doesn't agree with one's own. THAT is a cultural standard, today. Who owns which computer? Who gives a ****. I have computers running Macintosh, Linux and Windows. Status doesn't enter into it. Please be more diligent in discerning what someone is saying before you actually attempt to rebut it. It would be nice to engage in a discussion in which you are actually on the same topic. Indeed, since the argument/statement(s) of MAC supporters has totally ignored the ease of upgrading, the diversity of hardware offered, the abundance of freeware supplied, the ease of codecs to play any possibly imagined media, multiple and numerous apps offered for every possible task/job/use, etc., ON THE PC PLATFORM -- while there is a noticeable lack of these, and only at a notable expense -- obtainable on the apple platform You need to spend some time with the Macintosh platform. I have applications of every size, purpose, and variation on my business machines. Only a handful of these applications did I have to pay retail for. The rest are all open source share- or free-ware. And all of the installed with a simple drag-and-drop. And all work without difficulty. Any software application I require is available in many forms, from multiple developers, on the Macintosh platform. ... all we are left with is the MAC as a status symbol and ego trip ... no one really has to "say anything", one only needs to examine past text in this thread for proof of that statement. Or, simply, anyone can say anything, in the end, you can just look at it and see what it really is ... That's a good point. But you should really, again, investigate before you comment. Your information, is incorrect. On second look, you are actually quite correct, your text was just meaningless babble which I attempted to attribute some sense of importance and meaning to ... I stand corrected ... Regards, JS |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:21:12 -0700, John Smith
wrote: I am not attempting to "sit a high horse," I had to re-take the class "Life 101" a few times, before getting it close to right ... Basically, you just keep on keeping on ... and, the group of criminals in the public servant offices are a REAL determent to goals of many citizens and families ... this needs worked on, along the way, with the other problems ... I am sure, although I get older by the day, there are still mistakes awaiting me, in my future, short time, here on the planet .. Yep, mistakes happen. And different people have different smart choices they make. When someone else makes a different choice than I do about, say, home ownership - that doesn't mean he's dumber than I am - nor that I'm dumber than he is. And if every generation when it gets as old as I am, observes that the new generations are dumber than we were - that the Right choices were made by my generation (not the previous generations), I figure that maybe this time isn't different. A century or two from now, they won't notice the unique downturn that is so obvious to us. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:47:07 -0700, Tankfixer
wrote: Mac's and the Apple operating system were so technologically superior that Apple adopted the i86 processor and borrowed Linux as the core for OS10 Apple had the power to start over. It could start over twice to change to better CPUs. And it had the power to switch its core to BSD Unix. Microsoft couldn't do this - it did not control the design of PC compatible computers. When the environment changed from stand-alone desktop computers to computers connected with the world, Microsoft had to keep tweaking its core system again and again as it had to keep compatibility while making it safe for the new environment. It's like shoring up an existing building to make it earthquake resistant. Apple didn't need to shore up its OS in the same way. It tore down the old structure and built its OS upon a new core that had been proven to be better designed for connectivity (earthquakes). These two ways of getting to the same result were necessary because one was a hardware company and the other was a software company. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:17:14 -0400, "WrongWayWade"
wrote: Microsoft does make hardware. It is called a mouse. Old joke: "What can you do with your PC that I can't do with my MAC?" "Right-click." Funny. And even though we can now right-click with Macs, Windows does that better. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:25:35 -0400, BAR wrote:
Yep, mistakes happen. And different people have different smart choices they make. When someone else makes a different choice than I do about, say, home ownership - that doesn't mean he's dumber than I am - nor that I'm dumber than he is. Who is responsible for yours or his incorrect choices? That isn't my concern - I just don't care for someone saying that someone else is dumb for not making my choice. If a generation doesn't buy homes the way ours did doesn't mean that this generation is dumber than ours. And if every generation when it gets as old as I am, observes that the new generations are dumber than we were - that the Right choices were made by my generation (not the previous generations), I figure that maybe this time isn't different. A century or two from now, they won't notice the unique downturn that is so obvious to us. It isn't so much that they are dumber, they just make decision that we wouldn't make. Which is the point I was trying to make, to a response that said they are dumber because they don't buy houses as much as we did. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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