"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 10/12/2011 10:34 PM, Scout wrote:


"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 10/12/2011 10:00 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
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John wrote:

On 10/12/2011 11:37 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
In ,
John wrote:

On 10/10/2011 2:30 PM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 10/10/11 16:27 , Alan Baker wrote:
In ,
John wrote:

Your post is an excellent example of what I have found
about "Apple
People", they have a religious devotion to the platform ...

Your post is an excellent example of someone who believes
that anyone
who sees value where you do not must do it out of religious
devotion...


Personally, the only reason I use a PC, and refuse MAC's,
is that I
write much of the software I use ... plus, I private
contract to
develop
software on multiple platforms (even though I am retired,
for the
most
part) ... while most of that could be done on a MAC, it
simply
would not
make economic sense, for me ... I mean, I am in the
business to make
money -- NOT pay money to apple ... apple has worked hard in
being one
of the most proprietary corps I have ever seen, I think
they can
do that
without me ...

In what way is the Mac more "proprietary" than Windows from
your
perspective? The fact that they've always sold computers with
their own
OS? You can write software for that platform just as you can
for
Windows
or for Linux.


Windows doesn't hold patents on the hardware, to run their
software,
just for starters ... and, they don't have an iphone, or even
an
idildo,
for that matter! ROFLOL

So?

Apple's suddenly an evil empire because they make hardware and
Microsoft
doesn't?


Actually, you have missed the point, gotten off track, the
conversation
I seen was focused on fools and overpaying for the same bang
less buck
will do ...

It isn't that apple is evil for taking fools money, the fools
always end
up giving it to some one ... nor are the fools evil ... evil just
doesn't really apply.

If fools willingly give you money, I am not aware of any crimes
which
have been broken, nor evil criminals at fault ... I mean, like,
DUH!

Regards,
JS

As I said:

How arrogant to assume that anyone who sees value in what you do
not
must be a fool...


It's a cultural standard, today.




Hey, I am not the one into social standards!

I freely admit that a MAC can do anything a PC can do ... the PC can
just do it faster, cheaper and usually better ...

Really? Better in what way? Give a concrete example...


Snap in a high end NVIDIA or ATI card into our PC with a high res HD
monitor, sit in next to a MAC ... you will see what I mean ... do the
same with audio ...

You mean, like this:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-quadro-4000-mac-us.html

And with audio, do you mean like this:

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/ProFireLightbridge.html

Or this:

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta1010.html

Or perhaps this:

http://www.motu.com/products/pciaudio/HD192/specs.html


No plug your SDR amateur rig into the USB port of your PC and start
using it ... notice that there is no software available for the MAC
...
linux is covered with an app, etc., etc., etc.

Really? No software at all, huh?

http://www.rfspace.com/RFSPACE/CuteSDR.html


You keep putting words in my mouth, seems like I said a PC can do it
better ... that was the part you choose to dispute, not the faster,
cheaper ... or the fact that PC stays current with uptodate
software/codecs/drivers/hardware/firmware ...

Got a comparison to this card for the PC:

http://pressroom.nvidia.com/easyir/c...ue&prid=736275


By my count he has to go back 5 FAMILIES of nvidia cards before he finds
one with performance equal or less than what he produced for the Mac.

To spell that out.

GTX 590 - outperforms Mac
GTX 580 - outperforms Mac
GTX 570 - outperforms Mac
GTX 560 - outperforms Mac
GTX 550 - outperforms Mac
GTX 545 - Less performance than Mac

Quadro 4000 - $780
GTX 550 - $130
GTX 590 - $610






Actually, when I purchased my 590's, Best Buy had a sale on them, they
were under $300 a card ... so I got both of them for the price you have
there for one ... just sayin'

Yea, but it's hard to track sales and they are typically regional or
localized so it's hard to make a comparison on sale prices because it's all
but impossible to determine the lowest sale price. Street price on the other
hand is quick and easy to find.