I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.


This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
(Launtop powered):

http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg

The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.



This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over:

http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg

I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear.



This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug
nuts with.

http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg

Care to guess where they were made?



This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of
different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit
ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them.

The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
conveniently out of business.


http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft



Don't buy Chinese.


mike


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On 10/27/2011 6:30 PM, m II wrote:


I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.


This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
(Launtop powered):

http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg

The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.



This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over:

http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg

I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear.



This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug
nuts with.

http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg

Care to guess where they were made?



This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of
different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit
ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them.

The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
conveniently out of business.


http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft



Don't buy Chinese.


mike


The evil is a bit more hidden that what you see there, on the surface.

Planned obsolescence causes you to purchase new items to replace the
old. The costs in resources, energy, oil, creation of pollution/toxins,
dumps fill with obnoxious wastes, etc. is slowly poisoning not only all
of us, but the whole planet.

The impetus should be placed on strong, durable, long lasting products,
if possible, possessions which will last a lifetime, or even be handed
down. The benefits in cost, heath and happiness would be astounding ...

Instead, we are a bunch of "moronic consumers." Trained to buy products
which wear our quickly, so we will consume more ... etc., the cycle is a
very vicious one. Not only depriving us of wealth and happiness, but
even our health and life.

To turn this absurdity of "consumerism" around, at this point, looks
like a monumental task bordering on the line of impossible!

Indeed, laws are constructed to aid in the filling of dumps, and for
questionable reasons and refusal to debate other alternatives ...

Regards,
JS

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...+own+generator
cuhulin, Ganators R US

[.........]


The evil is a bit more hidden that what you see there, on the surface.

Planned obsolescence causes you to purchase new items to replace the old.
The costs in resources, energy, oil, creation of pollution/toxins, dumps
fill with obnoxious wastes, etc. is slowly poisoning not only all of us,
but the whole planet.

The impetus should be placed on strong, durable, long lasting products, if
possible, possessions which will last a lifetime, or even be handed down.
The benefits in cost, heath and happiness would be astounding ...

Instead, we are a bunch of "moronic consumers." Trained to buy products
which wear our quickly, so we will consume more ... etc., the cycle is a
very vicious one. Not only depriving us of wealth and happiness, but even
our health and life.

To turn this absurdity of "consumerism" around, at this point, looks like
a monumental task bordering on the line of impossible!

Indeed, laws are constructed to aid in the filling of dumps, and for
questionable reasons and refusal to debate other alternatives ...

Regards,
JS


It was hard rubbish collection time in our suburb this week.

The verges were lined with working TVs - everyone has upgraded to cheap
LCD/Plasma. The other things that stuck out were hooded BBQ's. Almost every
third or fourth house had one out the front. Cheap chinese crap rusting
away, most only a year or two old. At between $200 and $400 each its a
disgusting waste of money & resources.

Dennis expounded in
:

Planned obsolescence causes you to purchase new items to
replace the old. ...

It was hard rubbish collection time in our suburb this
week.

.. The other things that stuck
out were hooded BBQ's. Almost every third or fourth house
had one out the front. Cheap chinese crap rusting away,
most only a year or two old. At between $200 and $400 each
its a disgusting waste of money & resources.

When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to replace it
from time to time. I never spend big bux on one because I plan
on replacing it every few years anyway. So I don't need no
honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start with.

Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you end
up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator for it in
the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter). But when you
can get a new one for $50 more (or less)?

My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if she
wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to the
effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the crummy old
one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!"

I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if it
smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's germs on
it" (used), then I've come to know where that is headed. $$

Warren

Warren wrote:
When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to replace it
from time to time. I never spend big bux on one because I plan
on replacing it every few years anyway. So I don't need no
honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start with.

Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you end
up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator for it in
the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter). But when you
can get a new one for $50 more (or less)?

Or use a 2 second blast from the air compressor.


My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if she
wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to the
effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the crummy old
one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!"

Because the new one will last half as long?


I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if it
smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's germs on
it" (used), then I've come to know where that is headed. $$


Not me, but then, that allowed me to retire early.

Bob F expounded in :

Warren wrote:
When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to
replace it from time to time. I never spend big bux on one
because I plan on replacing it every few years anyway. So
I don't need no honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start
with.

Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you
end up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator
for it in the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter).
But when you can get a new one for $50 more (or less)?

Or use a 2 second blast from the air compressor.

All kinds of nasty things happen to a bbq carbourator over a
cdn winter. Believe me, if only it were that simple...

My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if
she wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to
the effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the
crummy old one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!"

Because the new one will last half as long?

For toasters, I'm with her on this one. Do you think that
protection plan will make your toaster last longer?

I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if
it smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's
germs on it" (used), then I've come to know where that is
headed. $$


Not me, but then, that allowed me to retire early.

Either you have a "optimum wife" or you're single. ;-)

Warren

I'm buying old electrical products from 2nd hand stores now. I got an
old 1940's Kirby all metal vacuum which still runs great! Got several
old 1960's phones which work when the power goes out. Got an old
1950's sewing machine - all metal. Etc.

And I have the money to buy brand new. I have bought brand new and the
things don't last but a month sometimes! I'm fed up, so back to old
for me...

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:23:22 -0700, "Bill"
wrote:

I'm buying old electrical products from 2nd hand stores now. I got an
old 1940's Kirby all metal vacuum which still runs great! Got several
old 1960's phones which work when the power goes out. Got an old
1950's sewing machine - all metal. Etc.

And I have the money to buy brand new. I have bought brand new and the
things don't last but a month sometimes! I'm fed up, so back to old
for me...

Be careful. Longevity is one thing, but safety standards were not
nearly as high in the old days-- both insulation safety standards and
inclusion of things like approved thermal cutoffs. There used to be
hundreds of people dying every year from fires caused by televisions,
and I've been shocked a few times by the old metal power tools that
developed internal shorts. Some old TVs and radios were "hot" chassis.

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:59:01 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

On 10/27/2011 6:30 PM, m II wrote:
[snip]
The evil is a bit more hidden that what you see there, on the surface.

Planned obsolescence causes you to purchase new items to replace the
old. The costs in resources, energy, oil, creation of pollution/toxins,
dumps fill with obnoxious wastes, etc. is slowly poisoning not only all
of us, but the whole planet.

The impetus should be placed on strong, durable, long lasting products,
if possible, possessions which will last a lifetime, or even be handed
down. The benefits in cost, heath and happiness would be astounding ...

Such as the Craftsman riding mower that I bought used several years
ago. Made in USA. Powered by Briggs & Stratton. Used weekly about
6-7 months out of the year. I have replaced the blades a couple of
times and the battery about a year ago. Otherwise, maintenance is
changing oil and filters, sharpening blades, new spark plug yearly. I
have a spare set of belts (drive and blades) but haven't yet needed to
replace either of them.

I also have a Craftsman self-propelled walk-behind that's probably 10+
years old. I replaced part of the drive mechanism several years ago.
Maintenance is changing oil, replacing air filter, replacing drive
belt, sharpening blade, new spark plug yearly.


Instead, we are a bunch of "moronic consumers." Trained to buy products
which wear our quickly, so we will consume more ... etc., the cycle is a
very vicious one. Not only depriving us of wealth and happiness, but
even our health and life.

To turn this absurdity of "consumerism" around, at this point, looks
like a monumental task bordering on the line of impossible!

It's all about who can make the widget cheapest and sell it for less.
WaMart wants suppliers to give them better prices each year to keep
their product(s) in the WalMart stores. For one-time-use things,
cheapest may be most economical, such as a drop cloth over an old
bookcase while painting a room - if some minimum level of protection
is adequate, the under $2 drop cloth may be fine. For covering
funriture being moved in the back of a pickup, I'll opt for something
sturdier- the cheapest possible covering will NOT survive the trip.

There are also the "new" gadgets that people don't know are old ideas
resurrected. Example: the Subaru ad touting their "hill holder" -
take your foot off the brake and the car won't roll back while the
clutch is in. The hill holder was introduced on the 1936 Studebaker,
so it's most defintely NOT new.


Indeed, laws are constructed to aid in the filling of dumps, and for
questionable reasons and refusal to debate other alternatives ...

Regards,
JS