Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
Building a new shortwave tube radio
|
#12
|
|||
|
|||
Building a new shortwave tube radio
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1 D. Peter Maus wrote: Where are you posting from? Why would anyone need to leave his name and address - fake or otherwise - when purchasing a radio? Because cash transactions are coming under the scrutiny of authority, today. Louisiana just became the most recent state to require identity of purchaser in a cash transaction or a ban on the cash transaction. Even a used purchase from a flea market or a garage sale. Other states are currently debating this provision. It's for the benefit of the *children*. Many contagious diseases are spread by filthy money and the Brothels just aren't sterilizing the bills like they used to. The Cocaine pushers are far better in this respect, as they get their clients to ingest any product left on the money. Only anti-American terrorists use cash for purchases. Next week I will be proposing a new 'Sterility' law which will require all canned good to be opened for examination before being placed on the store shelves. Then, the mandatory installation nation wide of surveillance cameras in the bathrooms of the Elderly. They fall a lot and the cameras would assure a swift response by medical teams. *SAFETY* is paramount. mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOvVymAAoJEGQ2h+1OL/Ac8BsH/jpsFzW2B4zZsToF1IijOYiU WvkC1ZMY0ccaL2VoxgXSeSwTSGw66XYB1DdEUHBTVDxoPH9Tp0 8HBHgDLP83t0Gi I5enxJIrMQhcjsZ9w9XP+sQxhxo0GTlySY5rGPXVshV5brxG1o scL8cfLLi/iMHU KrDSy7rjwmlTdghrpXUeUA2ikYTpQS2Yj82fF44Wl5F+D9yshX r7eLp1P7TIiqkQ C2M4bGSUxQesth2uwokN9ZT37pWAnKj4P8wT2iPHGHeI6A2LPA ybnugSpp5NVeKo P7gP9a8nDMVQdRbLGy9/tjpQDibk9isKB5vf1gARHbUCnoErZTFHH751oWgWurY= =0WgL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Building a new shortwave tube radio
|
#14
|
|||
|
|||
Building a new shortwave tube radio
On Nov 11, 11:29*pm, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
wrote: Patrick Turner wrote: But good luck with you quest. You'll definately need +60dB of that. Patrick, I too was going to write something like that, but you did far better than I could. The point that was buried in his original posting was that he is building an "EMP-PROOF" radio to sell to the survivalist market. Oh, I didn't think of that. If WW3 breaks out, all arses will have departed, because on hearing about the beginning of WW3 off the Internet, everyone will bend down to kiss their arse goodbye, and arses will depart, bye-bye, and no need for toilets or food any more. But "survivalist" resonated exuberantly in my mind because I'm 64, and the foppish Beatles used to sing a song "will ya still lerve me when I'm 64?". I'm 64. I know the answer, forbidden to be sung about by anyone, and its NO, no one at all will lerve ya when your'e 64, so that means all that's left is survival against a rotten horrible marauding mob of young upstarts hell bent on invading and pillaging and burying alive all that my father's generation established, and they all **** a lot while I'm not allowed to 'av one, well, not for free, and mean while this horrible lot are decimating the remaining species across the planet, and all trying to build absurdly large mansionettes, while all sending huge quantites of CO2 skywards which will ruin the weather, and exacerbate their self generated future difficulties. One "survivavlist" I know had two sound systems I serviced, a Quad-II with early Whardale LS, and a Leak system. Once inside the door of his house, one entered the lounge-room, and it was all exactly as it was in 1955, with a 1956 newspaper on the coffee table screaming headlines "SUEZ BOMBED". 1956 was a time when the rot of modernity really got a toe past the front door of most ppl, and rock and roll was seen as just as bad as WW3. So, this survivalist guy just saw no reason to mentally proceed past 1956. He worked his way up to being chief conserverator at the Australian Sound and Film Archives where much of the audio-visual media of the past ends up to be converted to digital files for future generations to enjoy, and for old blokes to gloat over. I humbly seek approval and aknowledgement that I know what "survivalist" means, and I can also back up mu claim because I know now that the older I get, the betta I was, and I have the recently created medical and dental records to prove it. Personally I think it is a fools errand, you can't build a modern radio similar to the high performing ones of the past at a cost anyone will pay, since in comparison, you can buy any one of the many old radios that will do, pay a professional to refurbish and align it, and buy several lifetimes worth of spare parts for far less. Professionals who know about old Racals and so on are just about all dead now. But to copy a Racal so you could provide a kit would be financial suicide. Not only that but radio collecting is a well known and liked hobby, nobody is going to take a second look at that old transoceanic on your shelf, but many would flip out seeing any firearm. If you are paranoid, you an even find stores in many places where you can buy a refurbished radio for cash and leave a fake name and address. Well, lotsa Mr Para Noids getting around on the Internet; they all broadcast their ideas, using a false nickname, and wouldn't dare use the name given to them by their parents. So paranoidism isn't any big deal. Bet ya don't go out to night clubs at 2AM any more to hunt for hot crumpet. Too many arsoles will happily mug you. Paranoidism prevents you wandering like a lost old dog than the young bitches will laugh at. Survivalism has you staying at home. But bicycles are safe during the day. Patrick Turner. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, *N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-( |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Building a new shortwave tube radio
On Nov 12, 3:45*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 11/11/11 08:42 , Lord Valve wrote: If you are paranoid, you an even find stores in many places where you can buy a refurbished radio for cash and leave a fake name and address. Huh? Where are you posting from? Why would anyone need to leave his name and address - fake or otherwise - when purchasing a radio? * *Because cash transactions are coming under the scrutiny of authority, today. Louisiana just became the most recent state to require identity of purchaser in a cash transaction or a ban on the cash transaction. Even a used purchase from a flea market or a garage sale. * *Other states are currently debating this provision. How about that. I guess the Taxation and Police authorities might like to know how and where ppl spend their cash. But I heard that since 911, hundreds of huge and mainly hidden buildings housing about 2 million workers across the USA have been quietly built and operate to filter all email traffic and phone traffic to detect terrorists and possibly anyone other selectable target, like people trading in OLD STUFF like old radios which consume the same amount of electricity to run an air con unit, or 500 i-pods. These spying centers suck in digital data like huge vacuum cleaners, then apply a filter for key words. One wonders if such centers could detect the next intended school shooting or Oklahoma Bombing. The so called BLACK ECONOMY, ie, the flow of cash which can't be traced and hence isn't taxed is one of the big reasons to try to outlaw cash, and thus have everyone pay the transaction cost to a 3rd party by means of the credit card. But here in Oz, cash is still widely used, and everyone I know does not need to be told to bring cash when paying me peanut wages for radio repairs. I explain to ppl that average wages are 60 grand a year now, ie, $1,300 a week for the 46 weeks out of 52 ppl actually work, ie, $32.50c per hour of 40 hrs a week. (( Ppl get to "administer" this amount, then have to pay $10 income tax and maybe 25 other various bribes to banks for mortage payments and GST, and company profits etc, etc, etc, before keeping $3.25 to buy bananas to give the banana farmer a similar amount via the system of banana distribution so he ends up with 10c per banana. Its all far more complex than a company boss or union rep is willing to describe )). But a radio might take 120 hrs to fix right, and maybe I get $600, after giving them a discount of $3,300 off the wages of $3,900 which should be paid for 120 hours of work. Cash will be around for awhile yet, but in 20 years perhaps goverments will try to save money by not printing it. I'll be dead as the species of cash becomes extinct like the lions, tigers, and elephants, and thousands of lesser known species. Trouble may come if a government values a radio repair transaction as being worth say $3,900 instead of $600, and taxes people on the same rate as those earning average weekly earnings to discourage anyone offering discounts to compete, or to survive. All sorts of BS is possible, but so far, afaik, cash is still extremely popular here. But in 1983, if someone wanted to extend their house, all work valued above $10,000 had to be "declared" to prevent ppl hiding un-seen cash income in the form of house improvements. Guess what. Ppl just did little bits of improvements at a time and still managed to get their house extensions approved by the govt authorities. Bundles of notes went out of one pocket and into another one. But in Greece, there is mastery of the cash economy, and they have many other devious ways of keeping NOSY PARKER GOVT out of business, and as a result, you see the mess Greece is in. Two sides to every story. Maybe another Great Depression might just happen. The Financial System BEAST of the world survives because other ppl have a hand in YOUR pocket whether you like it or not. The Beast extracts a steady trickle of bucks to make credit flow. The trickle is like food, a small percentage of body weight needs to be consumed by the Beast each day to survive and if the trickle feed stops, the Beast gets very sick indeed, thus giving everyone the ****s in a big way. Departments of taxation and Criminal control departments of governments around the world are part of the Beast. Beastly health is mostly desirable, but colly wobbles can now be heard. And there is a gigantic building here worth a billion or two being built at high speed for ASIO, the Oz branch of CIA equivalent, right here in town. Maybe it'll have about 3,000 ppl employed to keep a watch on what everyone else is doing, saying, typing, and sending, and its only "one small step" to knowing what everyone is thinking, and a "giant leap for mankind" to control thinking. From what I see, everyone wants a cheap deal and they don't care about your wages, just their own. Ppl don't care about the environment of anyone or anything living more than 5km away from themselves. Most ppl don't really mind being spied on. And many will happily spy on everyone else. Its going on, and people ain't rioting in the streets about it. Patrick Turner. |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
Building a new shortwave tube radio
On 11/11/11 17:38 , Patrick Turner wrote:
On Nov 12, 3:45 am, "D. Peter wrote: On 11/11/11 08:42 , Lord Valve wrote: If you are paranoid, you an even find stores in many places where you can buy a refurbished radio for cash and leave a fake name and address. Huh? Where are you posting from? Why would anyone need to leave his name and address - fake or otherwise - when purchasing a radio? Because cash transactions are coming under the scrutiny of authority, today. Louisiana just became the most recent state to require identity of purchaser in a cash transaction or a ban on the cash transaction. Even a used purchase from a flea market or a garage sale. Other states are currently debating this provision. How about that. I guess the Taxation and Police authorities might like to know how and where ppl spend their cash. Actually, it's more sinister than that. But I heard that since 911, hundreds of huge and mainly hidden buildings housing about 2 million workers across the USA have been quietly built and operate to filter all email traffic and phone traffic to detect terrorists and possibly anyone other selectable target, like people trading in OLD STUFF like old radios which consume the same amount of electricity to run an air con unit, or 500 i-pods. These spying centers suck in digital data like huge vacuum cleaners, then apply a filter for key words. One wonders if such centers could detect the next intended school shooting or Oklahoma Bombing. The so called BLACK ECONOMY, ie, the flow of cash which can't be traced and hence isn't taxed is one of the big reasons to try to outlaw cash, and thus have everyone pay the transaction cost to a 3rd party by means of the credit card. But here in Oz, cash is still widely used, and everyone I know does not need to be told to bring cash when paying me peanut wages for radio repairs. I explain to ppl that average wages are 60 grand a year now, ie, $1,300 a week for the 46 weeks out of 52 ppl actually work, ie, $32.50c per hour of 40 hrs a week. (( Ppl get to "administer" this amount, then have to pay $10 income tax and maybe 25 other various bribes to banks for mortage payments and GST, and company profits etc, etc, etc, before keeping $3.25 to buy bananas to give the banana farmer a similar amount via the system of banana distribution so he ends up with 10c per banana. Its all far more complex than a company boss or union rep is willing to describe )). But a radio might take 120 hrs to fix right, and maybe I get $600, after giving them a discount of $3,300 off the wages of $3,900 which should be paid for 120 hours of work. Cash will be around for awhile yet, but in 20 years perhaps goverments will try to save money by not printing it. I'll be dead as the species of cash becomes extinct like the lions, tigers, and elephants, and thousands of lesser known species. Trouble may come if a government values a radio repair transaction as being worth say $3,900 instead of $600, and taxes people on the same rate as those earning average weekly earnings to discourage anyone offering discounts to compete, or to survive. All sorts of BS is possible, but so far, afaik, cash is still extremely popular here. But in 1983, if someone wanted to extend their house, all work valued above $10,000 had to be "declared" to prevent ppl hiding un-seen cash income in the form of house improvements. Guess what. Ppl just did little bits of improvements at a time and still managed to get their house extensions approved by the govt authorities. Bundles of notes went out of one pocket and into another one. But in Greece, there is mastery of the cash economy, and they have many other devious ways of keeping NOSY PARKER GOVT out of business, and as a result, you see the mess Greece is in. Two sides to every story. Maybe another Great Depression might just happen. The Financial System BEAST of the world survives because other ppl have a hand in YOUR pocket whether you like it or not. The Beast extracts a steady trickle of bucks to make credit flow. The trickle is like food, a small percentage of body weight needs to be consumed by the Beast each day to survive and if the trickle feed stops, the Beast gets very sick indeed, thus giving everyone the ****s in a big way. Departments of taxation and Criminal control departments of governments around the world are part of the Beast. Beastly health is mostly desirable, but colly wobbles can now be heard. And there is a gigantic building here worth a billion or two being built at high speed for ASIO, the Oz branch of CIA equivalent, right here in town. Maybe it'll have about 3,000 ppl employed to keep a watch on what everyone else is doing, saying, typing, and sending, and its only "one small step" to knowing what everyone is thinking, and a "giant leap for mankind" to control thinking. From what I see, everyone wants a cheap deal and they don't care about your wages, just their own. Ppl don't care about the environment of anyone or anything living more than 5km away from themselves. Most ppl don't really mind being spied on. And many will happily spy on everyone else. Its going on, and people ain't rioting in the streets about it. They will. About 2 hours after it's too late. |
#17
|
|||
|
|||
Building a new shortwave tube radio
On 11/11/2011 9:34 AM, m II wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 D. Peter Maus wrote: Where are you posting from? Why would anyone need to leave his name and address - fake or otherwise - when purchasing a radio? Because cash transactions are coming under the scrutiny of authority, today. Louisiana just became the most recent state to require identity of purchaser in a cash transaction or a ban on the cash transaction. Even a used purchase from a flea market or a garage sale. Other states are currently debating this provision. It's for the benefit of the *children*. Many contagious diseases are spread by filthy money and the Brothels just aren't sterilizing the bills like they used to. The Cocaine pushers are far better in this respect, as they get their clients to ingest any product left on the money. Only anti-American terrorists use cash for purchases. Next week I will be proposing a new 'Sterility' law which will require all canned good to be opened for examination before being placed on the store shelves. Then, the mandatory installation nation wide of surveillance cameras in the bathrooms of the Elderly. They fall a lot and the cameras would assure a swift response by medical teams. *SAFETY* is paramount. mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOvVymAAoJEGQ2h+1OL/Ac8BsH/jpsFzW2B4zZsToF1IijOYiU WvkC1ZMY0ccaL2VoxgXSeSwTSGw66XYB1DdEUHBTVDxoPH9Tp0 8HBHgDLP83t0Gi I5enxJIrMQhcjsZ9w9XP+sQxhxo0GTlySY5rGPXVshV5brxG1o scL8cfLLi/iMHU KrDSy7rjwmlTdghrpXUeUA2ikYTpQS2Yj82fF44Wl5F+D9yshX r7eLp1P7TIiqkQ C2M4bGSUxQesth2uwokN9ZT37pWAnKj4P8wT2iPHGHeI6A2LPA ybnugSpp5NVeKo P7gP9a8nDMVQdRbLGy9/tjpQDibk9isKB5vf1gARHbUCnoErZTFHH751oWgWurY= =0WgL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ROFLOL ... that is funny ... But then, quite suddenly, you realize that the world is full of these irrational imbeciles who really believe this stuff and would vote or demand it "in." The only happy point about our civilization facing the possibility of annihilating itself is the fact it would take these *******s to a place where they can no longer harm themselves or others ... Regards, JS |
#18
|
|||
|
|||
Building a new shortwave tube radio
On Nov 12, 5:07*am, John Smith wrote:
On 11/10/2011 9:52 PM, wrote: * With the survivalist market as well as the DIYers who would build a kit I have given thought to the idea of building a new tube shortwave receiver as a usable, practical set. * That means no regens, no DC bull****, and no plug in coils. It must have production grade RF and IF coils, a bandswitch, and require alignment. If sold as a kit the builder will need a RF generator and a scope (or a spec an or CSM with a track gen). * It should use off the shelf parts even if those shelves are bare, as it is better to copy an existing item than design from scratch. I would clone the Eddystone dial mechanism and the bandswitch and coils from some Hallicrafters or Hammarlund set, they could be sold as desperately needed replacement spares for the old sets too. I would use a seeing eye tube mounted in a hole in the dial as opposed to a meter movement, again, getting a run of new tubes made is possible if you are buying several thousand. There are some surplus that could be used if really needed too. * I would use a separate power supply and speaker for several reasons.. * I would have the radio take in B+ and heater voltage and put out 600 ohm +4 audio. A regular supply could be used at home or car battery and a switchmode brick for B+. A headphone jack would be supplied off this tube. * The set should cover 500 kHz to 30 MHz, AM, SSB and CW, with a product detector of course. A 455 kHz IF is needed so as to use common mechanical or crystal filters, which are optional. There should also be a 455 kHz IF out for an external synchronous detector. Any other comments? Yeah, why would anyone build a survival set whose filaments would burn much more power than a VERY high end transistor set? *You plan on hauling around sq yards of solar cells to power that rig? Regards, JS- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The OP may not be hauling mobile tube stuff anywhere. But best SW reception is at night, when the sun don't shine, and the wind hardly blows much. But many ppl here have bought solar photo-voltaic systems for the house roof and they sell the excess power back to the main supplier of the Grid. This pays for the electricity used at other times. But authorities worked out this payment for locally generated power was a subsidy paid by those without solar, and a loss and big ****fights over money occurred soon after solar panel uptake went way over what was expected. Encouraging solar was regarded as part of the "Being seen to be doing something Green and Good" and therefore getting votes, while in reality increasing the cost of electricity, and making SFA difference to overall CO2 emissions. So pay back rates ahve plummeted, and solar companies have gone broke, as only the rich can afford to pay for solar panels, let alone the batteries needed for use of power at night. Country dwellers can get by on low power of solar and batteries if they are careful and have low power everything, use batteries, cook on wood fire, heat water with wood stove, use gas maybe etc, but tube audio or radio is about out of the question, unless you use the low filament current tubes meant for portable radios so popular between 1935 and 1955. They would be very easy to rum from a few batteries, only 8 x 12V car batteries are needed for a B+ of 90Vdc, and its simple to arrange low voltage DC batteries for directly heated cathodes which use very little current. But such "portable tubes" are not being made now. Plenty of good solid state SW radios operating on very low power are to be had. Ppl can then focus on antennas if they want good reception. The receiver performance is basically solved, but after WW3, if you survive, a good antenna to pick up other survivors transmitting with low power might be handy. This assumes WW3 will send the world back to about where it was in 1925, with maybe 2 billion survivors with accelerated death rates, and ever declining technical production ability for non essentials. Essentials like ammunition, bows and arrows will be manufactured. Patrick Turner. |
#19
|
|||
|
|||
Building a new shortwave tube radio
On Nov 11, 8:57*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 11/11/11 24:15 , wrote: On Nov 11, 12:04 am, David wrote: My guess is that the cost you would have to charge to recoup the time and effort you put together in coming up with such a design would end up making such a set *much* more expensive than just going to a ham fest, buying a Hammarlund in good shape, and fixing it up. Or even paying someone else to fix it up. * I already have a R-390, two Hammarlunds and a Racal....I wanted to manufacture something. Or at least think about it. * *Certainly worth thinking about. * *Maybe worth doing. But consider: * *Tubes are getting harder to come buy. Not that they can't be had. And after an EMP, they're likely to be as available as working SS devices. But there are inherent issues with Tubes. One is that they use a LOT of precious energy, that in a survival mode situation is best conserved for other applications, or longer listening. Another is that voltages are much higher than those that can be recovered after or during a crisis with ease. Low voltage, low current devices are going to be more desirable when energy is in short supply. * *But, more importantly, tube receivers aren't necessarily less prone to damage by EMP than SS receivers. In fact, there is empirical evidence to suggest that SS receivers can be made to survive an EMP where a tube receiver will not. * *Your best options, then, would include building a reasonably high performance receiver with readily available common parts, and take measures, such as a Faraday cage, and effective grounding/input protection measures, to render your station if not immune, then more resistant to stray or induced hostile voltages. * *Now, you have a practical, and manufacturable, product. -wrt- Faraday Cage : Old Metal {Steel} Garbage Can with a tight fitting Lid. -store-holding- + The Solid State AM/FM/SW Radio + Plenty of Batteries -or- Re-Chargeable Batteries and a Solar Charger -no-tubes-required- ~ RHF |
#20
|
|||
|
|||
Building a new shortwave tube radio
On 11/11/2011 10:10 PM, RHF wrote:
... -wrt- Faraday Cage : Old Metal {Steel} Garbage Can with a tight fitting Lid. -store-holding- + The Solid State AM/FM/SW Radio + Plenty of Batteries -or- Re-Chargeable Batteries and a Solar Charger -no-tubes-required- ~ RHF . Satellites are withstanding these on an almost daily basis, for years, if not decades ... doesn't seem to be a real problem anymore ... however, laying hands to that technology might be a bit of a different story ... as, while one nation might wants its' own satellites hardened, it certainly doesn't want the enemies ... Regards, JS |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
WWRB shortwave : Our You tube video: The Four Course Radio Range | Shortwave | |||
everyone better be careful while building those shortwave radios | Shortwave | |||
Building a Multi-Element 1/4 Wave Length Shortwave Listening (SWL) Antenna | Shortwave | |||
Classic Shortwave Antenna for a Classic {Tube} Shortwave Radio / Receiver | Shortwave | |||
Better hold on to your shortwave TUBE radio | Shortwave |