Liberty Net: November 12, 2011

http://3950.net/2011/11/liberty-net-november-12-2011/

by Kevin Strom, WB4AIO

THE EXCITEMENT was at a high level as the number of check-ins to the
Liberty Net — both via phone patch and over the air — seemed to
increase right in step with the sunspot numbers.

Here’s a tiny selection of the issues discussed this week on amateur
radio’s most best and longest-running discussion net:

• Although poll after poll and vote after vote shows that Ron Paul
is the leading Republican candidate, the billionaires’ media are
blatantly suppressing that fact — more proof that American elections
are about as genuine as professional wrestling matches. (30 minutes)

• Electing new representatives or a new president is not enough. Not
by a long shot. It will take a huge housecleaning and the revocation
of thousands of illegal “laws” to reverse over a century of
unconstitutional acts and subversion. (40 minutes)

• It’s clear that Israel and its sycophants in the US are slavering
to attack Iran. If they do, will it result in a devastating World
War in which hundreds of thousands of Americans — not just the
cannon fodder in the field — will die? (59 minutes)

• The plague of abandoned and looted houses — and dangerous areas
where civilized people, and even police, fear to tread — is
spreading from Detroit to Black-majority and Mestizo-majority areas
of Cleveland, Cincinnati, and other rust belt cities. (1 hour 26
minutes)

• More and more states and communities are encouraging drivers to
use “EZPass” — which gives faceless bureaucrats detailed information
on where you, when you go, how fast you go, when you come back, and
what’s in your bank account. (2 hours 14 minutes)

• One of the most promising developments in recent years is the
emergence of the Oathkeepers — a group of police officers and
military men who swear to keep their oaths by refusing to obey
illegal, unconstitutional orders. (2 hours 59 minutes)

• All members of the military and the police need to understand that
the regime in Washington is an illegal regime — and that all its
wars are illegal wars of aggression — and that no election or series
of elections is likely to change that. (3 hours 18 minutes)

• Wherever fractional reserve banking has been overthrown, the cost
of living has fallen by roughly two thirds, and the standard of
living has skyrocketed. (3 hours 23 minutes)

• New evidence is emerging that police departments are in the
business of selling seized drugs on a massive scale. (3 hours 47
minutes)

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right now on your computer here at http://3950.net/ — or download
the file and listen on your portable mp3 player. And he also
operates a live feed and chat during Net times that lets you make an
end run around jammers and a fickle ionosphere. Soon, we also hope
to see the N2SAG station — and Internet feed — make a triumphant
return once Al relocates!

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On Nov 19, 11:30*pm, Hils wrote:
On 2011-11-20 02:28, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

• Although poll after poll and vote after vote shows that Ron Paul is
the leading Republican candidate, the billionaires’ media are blatantly
suppressing that fact — more proof that American elections are about as
genuine as professional wrestling matches. (30 minutes)

• More and more states and communities are encouraging drivers to use
“EZPass” — which gives faceless bureaucrats detailed information on
where you, when you go, how fast you go, when you come back, and what’s
in your bank account. (2 hours 14 minutes)

• All members of the military and the police need to understand that the
regime in Washington is an illegal regime — and that all its wars are
illegal wars of aggression — and that no election or series of elections
is likely to change that. (3 hours 18 minutes)

- Will the Liberty Netters be joining forces with the Occupy
protesters?

Thus We Have Today's Blue Light{Plate} Special...
Mixed 'Nuts' !

On Nov 21, 1:25*pm, Hils wrote:

The liberty netters and the occupiers seem essentially to agree on many
of the problems, notably around the banker, big business, and war
industry infiltration and control of government. I wonder if some of the
reluctance to engage is because both sets have grown up seeing the other
lot as the problem.

You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall
Street is a genuine mass movement. The Liberty Net is not a movement,
it's a tiny clique of reactionary CONservatives with delusions of
grandeur. It is small in number, smaller in stature and embarrassingly
ineffective. That they have been in existence for over 30 years and
the state of the nation worsens every year is ample evidence of the
latter.

The Liberty Net is akin to what the "militia movement" was in the
1980's; 3 men and a jeep running around the woods with rifles dressed
in camouflage - metaphorically speaking. Comic relief at its best.

On Nov 22, 3:57*pm, Truth Teller wrote:
On Nov 21, 1:25*pm, Hils wrote:

The liberty netters and the occupiers seem essentially to agree on many
of the problems, notably around the banker, big business, and war
industry infiltration and control of government. I wonder if some of the
reluctance to engage is because both sets have grown up seeing the other
lot as the problem.

* You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall
Street is a genuine mass movement.

- The Liberty Net is not a movement, it's a tiny clique of
- reactionary CONservatives with delusions of grandeur.

The Liberty Net is best described as a Bowel-Movement
-after-all-****-happens-!- -it-do- -yep-it-do-do- -;;-}}-

On Nov 22, 6:57*pm, Truth Teller wrote:

[...]

You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall
Street is a genuine mass movement.

OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN
calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over
it.

OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing
the bidding
of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big
time.

On Nov 23, 6:49*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Nov 22, 6:57*pm, Truth Teller wrote:

[...]

You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall
Street is a genuine mass movement.

OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN
calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over
it.

OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing
the bidding
of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big
time.

Easy for a google groupie to hide behind a keyboard and spew such crap
not a chance in hell of it ever happening
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They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum
like
OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb.

"DEFCON 88" wrote in message
...

They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum
like
OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb.


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Now it's "leftist" to expect a decent wage for your labor, or to want the
ones punished that made your 401k go away?

On Nov 23, 7:41*pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
"DEFCON 88" *wrote in message

...

They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum
like
OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb.
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Now it's "leftist" to expect a decent wage for your labor, or to want the
ones punished that made your 401k go away?

Not to mention all the working middle class who have had their homes
fraudulently stolen from them. Obviously the poor fellow is a Faux
News devotee.

Fox News viewers less informed about current events than those who
don’t watch news at all, study finds
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/fox-...sEnabled=false

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
then you win."
Mohandas Gandhi

On 11/23/11 17:58 , DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Nov 23, 6:49 pm, Bob wrote:
DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Nov 22, 6:57 pm, Truth wrote:

[...]

You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall
Street is a genuine mass movement.

OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN
calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over
it.

OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing
the bidding
of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big
time.

Easy for a google groupie to hide behind a keyboard and spew such crap
not a chance in hell of it ever happening
--

http://bit.ly/g2PCII- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum
like
OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb.

I've been to the rallies in Chicago and a couple of other cities.
There's a lot of disruption, and an lot of noise, but little
substance. A lot of people there, who, when you ask them why they're
there (and I have), will tell you that they want to be part of an
important movement, but can't really tell you what the purpose of
the movement is. Some who are there because they get to act up/act
out with impugnity, and many (I've asked them and they've said the
words) who just want 'to be part of a big protest.'
But if you ask what they're protesting, they can't clearly tell you.

There's no doubt that there's a lot of anger, here. And there's
no doubt that much of it may be justified. But this 'movement' in
particular is more about personal retribution for achievement than
it is about punishing those who've done so many people so wrong.

Once they start indiscriminately going through affluent
neighborhoods vandalizing any and every thing that smacks of
wealth...it's no longer about a cause. It's about the chaos.

On Nov 23, 11:56*pm, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 11/23/11 17:58 , DEFCON 88 wrote:





On Nov 23, 6:49 pm, Bob *wrote:
DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Nov 22, 6:57 pm, Truth *wrote:

[...]

You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall
Street is a genuine mass movement.

OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN
calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over
it.

OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing
the bidding
of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big
time.

Easy for a google groupie to hide behind a keyboard and spew such crap
not a chance in hell of it ever happening
--

http://bit.ly/g2PCII-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum
like
OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb.

* *I've been to the rallies in Chicago and a couple of other cities.
There's a lot of disruption, and an lot of noise, but little
substance. A lot of people there, who, when you ask them why they're
there (and I have), will tell you that they want to be part of an
important movement, but can't really tell you what the purpose of
the movement is. Some who are there because they get to act up/act
out with impugnity, and many (I've asked them and they've said the
words) who just want 'to be part of a big protest.'
But if you ask what they're protesting, they can't clearly tell you.

* *There's no doubt that there's a lot of anger, here. And there's
no doubt that much of it may be justified. But this 'movement' in
particular is more about personal retribution for achievement than
it is about punishing those who've done so many people so wrong.

* *Once they start indiscriminately going through affluent
neighborhoods vandalizing any and every thing that smacks of
wealth...it's no longer about a cause. It's about the chaos.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

....Anarchists ??