= = = "mike"
= = = wrote in message ...
"Diverd4777 wrote

Ditto the agreement.

Here in Vermont, the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %.
With a state population of about 750,000 each job posted to the newspaper
gets over 500 resumes.

Additionaly, Federal figures don't count those not collecting a check.
(inelligible, unable to find work after benefits expiring, etc)

mike



mike, Mike. MIKE !


"the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %."


* "effectively" = Are we talking reality here or some ones Imagination
?
? How do we get to an "effective" Unemployment Rate ?
? ? ? Do we start with the Actual Unemployed ? ? ?
+ Add-in the Long Term Unemployed ?
+ + Add-in the Under-Employed ?
+ + + Add-in the School Teachers during the Summer ?
+ + + Add-in the Disabled due to Work Injuries ?
+ + + + Add-in the Homeless ?
+ + + + Add-in those on Welfare/AFDC/SSI/SSDI ?
+ + + + + Add-in the Full & Part Time Students ?
+ + + + + + Add-in the Retired ?
+ + + + + + + Add-in Prisoners in Jails ?


* "nearing" = 8 is nearer to 15 then 7 -and- 7 is nearer to 0 then 8
- Slip Sliding Away - - Slip Sliding Away - - - Slip Sliding Away . .
..


* "15" = So is this a Real Number ?
OR - Does it simply reflex your personal political {agenda} reality ?
- Gloom and Doom - - Gloom and Doom - - - Gloom and Doom . . .

* "%" = Percentage of What = "Able Body Workers" Only or Anyone and
Everyone ?


Please Enlighten Me ~ RHF


OBTW: The best set of "srebmun" (numbers: spelled back-words ) that
I remember, and that were 'presented' as FACTS. Involved counting
minority women twice as women and then minorities. But, for some
reason minority males were not counted twice. Oh So Politically
Correct !


..

..

FWIW file, he

When the Federal Gov. calculates unemployment figures, they
do so by conducting a survey of 300 employers (businesses).
If the business has changed its phone number and cannot be
contacted, the Federal Government reports something to the
effect that said business has not cut any jobs.

I think the jobless problem is perhaps the biggest one we face
as a nation....and, working as a Title Examiner/Manager/Insurance
Agent, I can attest that waaaaay too many folks are getting fifth,
sixth, and seventh refi's....just to pay the bills. I can also state with
honesty that too many folks who have no business buying a home
are doing precisely that.

Hoping for a *real* recovery....

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN

(P.S., I was going to chide you about not including minorities (whose
unemployment rate is way higher)....until I read the last paragraph)

"RHF" wrote in message
om...
| = = = "mike"
| = = = wrote in message ...
| "Diverd4777 wrote
|
| Ditto the agreement.
|
| Here in Vermont, the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %.
| With a state population of about 750,000 each job posted to the
newspaper
| gets over 500 resumes.
|
| Additionaly, Federal figures don't count those not collecting a check.
| (inelligible, unable to find work after benefits expiring, etc)
|
| mike
|
|
|
| mike, Mike. MIKE !
|
|
| "the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %."
|
|
| * "effectively" = Are we talking reality here or some ones Imagination
| ?
| ? How do we get to an "effective" Unemployment Rate ?
| ? ? ? Do we start with the Actual Unemployed ? ? ?
| + Add-in the Long Term Unemployed ?
| + + Add-in the Under-Employed ?
| + + + Add-in the School Teachers during the Summer ?
| + + + Add-in the Disabled due to Work Injuries ?
| + + + + Add-in the Homeless ?
| + + + + Add-in those on Welfare/AFDC/SSI/SSDI ?
| + + + + + Add-in the Full & Part Time Students ?
| + + + + + + Add-in the Retired ?
| + + + + + + + Add-in Prisoners in Jails ?
|
|
| * "nearing" = 8 is nearer to 15 then 7 -and- 7 is nearer to 0 then 8
| - Slip Sliding Away - - Slip Sliding Away - - - Slip Sliding Away . .
| .
|
|
| * "15" = So is this a Real Number ?
| OR - Does it simply reflex your personal political {agenda} reality ?
| - Gloom and Doom - - Gloom and Doom - - - Gloom and Doom . . .
|
| * "%" = Percentage of What = "Able Body Workers" Only or Anyone and
| Everyone ?
|
|
| Please Enlighten Me ~ RHF
|
|
| OBTW: The best set of "srebmun" (numbers: spelled back-words ) that
| I remember, and that were 'presented' as FACTS. Involved counting
| minority women twice as women and then minorities. But, for some
| reason minority males were not counted twice. Oh So Politically
| Correct !
|
|
| .
|
| .


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SMHL,

Already posted the Little 'm' Numbers:

From: RHF )
Subject: It's SO obvious!
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: 2003-09-04 23:58:16 PST

Jimmie James wrote in message ...
Again, I'm going to respond via my own message...cuz that little twit in Vermont
is a LIAR!!!!

I just visited your states website. According to your (Vermont's) July
unemployment records, which are the latest available, (Ausgust isn't out yet.)
Vermont is sitting at 4.1%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JJ,

The Good Old 4.1% "UE Rate" is for College Educated White Males ONLY !

So this Translates to:

= 8.2% for White Females and Asian-Americans.

= 12.3% for those who only made it through High School.

= 16.4% for those who did NOT made it through High School.

= 20.5% for Hispanic-Americans.

= 24.9% for African-Americans.


jftfoi ~ RHF
..
..
= = = "Stephen M.H. Lawrence"
= = = wrote in message nk.net...
FWIW file, he

When the Federal Gov. calculates unemployment figures, they
do so by conducting a survey of 300 employers (businesses).
If the business has changed its phone number and cannot be
contacted, the Federal Government reports something to the
effect that said business has not cut any jobs.

I think the jobless problem is perhaps the biggest one we face
as a nation....and, working as a Title Examiner/Manager/Insurance
Agent, I can attest that waaaaay too many folks are getting fifth,
sixth, and seventh refi's....just to pay the bills. I can also state with
honesty that too many folks who have no business buying a home
are doing precisely that.

Hoping for a *real* recovery....

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN

(P.S., I was going to chide you about not including minorities (whose
unemployment rate is way higher)....until I read the last paragraph)

"RHF" wrote in message
om...
| = = = "mike"
| = = = wrote in message ...
| "Diverd4777 wrote
|
| Ditto the agreement.
|
| Here in Vermont, the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %.
| With a state population of about 750,000 each job posted to the
newspaper
| gets over 500 resumes.
|
| Additionaly, Federal figures don't count those not collecting a check.
| (inelligible, unable to find work after benefits expiring, etc)
|
| mike
|
|
|
| mike, Mike. MIKE !
|
|
| "the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %."
|
|
| * "effectively" = Are we talking reality here or some ones Imagination
| ?
| ? How do we get to an "effective" Unemployment Rate ?
| ? ? ? Do we start with the Actual Unemployed ? ? ?
| + Add-in the Long Term Unemployed ?
| + + Add-in the Under-Employed ?
| + + + Add-in the School Teachers during the Summer ?
| + + + Add-in the Disabled due to Work Injuries ?
| + + + + Add-in the Homeless ?
| + + + + Add-in those on Welfare/AFDC/SSI/SSDI ?
| + + + + + Add-in the Full & Part Time Students ?
| + + + + + + Add-in the Retired ?
| + + + + + + + Add-in Prisoners in Jails ?
|
|
| * "nearing" = 8 is nearer to 15 then 7 -and- 7 is nearer to 0 then 8
| - Slip Sliding Away - - Slip Sliding Away - - - Slip Sliding Away . .
| .
|
|
| * "15" = So is this a Real Number ?
| OR - Does it simply reflex your personal political {agenda} reality ?
| - Gloom and Doom - - Gloom and Doom - - - Gloom and Doom . . .
|
| * "%" = Percentage of What = "Able Body Workers" Only or Anyone and
| Everyone ?
|
|
| Please Enlighten Me ~ RHF
|
|
| OBTW: The best set of "srebmun" (numbers: spelled back-words ) that
| I remember, and that were 'presented' as FACTS. Involved counting
| minority women twice as women and then minorities. But, for some
| reason minority males were not counted twice. Oh So Politically
| Correct !
|
|
| .
|
| .


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