How much privacy are the BPL folk promising? I have to figure there's some
level of encryption, but I'm curious about the level. If a power grid is
used for a network, than the common signals will be available at any power
outlet in a whole area, even for non-subscribers. Looks like a high tech
party line to me.

Frank Dresser

How are phone conversations kept apart on a telephone line ? It seems to me
that you would have to have some kind of interface card to connect to the
service providing the internet connection, otherwise it would be free for
everyone, whether they paid or not. That interface card would have to
discriminate in some way from subscribers and non- subscribers. FWIW mm

Behold, Warpcore signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

How are phone conversations kept apart on a telephone line ?

All non-dsl products have to have a filter placed inline. It's just a wee
device that a dollar will get you 1/2 dozen, but most ISP give them away.


It seems to
me that you would have to have some kind of interface card to connect to
the service providing the internet connection, otherwise it would be
free for everyone, whether they paid or not. That interface card would
have to discriminate in some way from subscribers and non- subscribers.
FWIW mm

TCP/IP routing. Plain and simple, is my guess.

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

Behold, Frank Dresser signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

How much privacy are the BPL folk promising? I have to figure there's
some level of encryption, but I'm curious about the level.

If MD5 can be cracked, forget 100% security via BPL.

There is nothing - absolutely nothing that can't be cracked.

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

"Gregg" wrote in message
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Behold, Frank Dresser signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

How much privacy are the BPL folk promising? I have to figure there's
some level of encryption, but I'm curious about the level.

If MD5 can be cracked, forget 100% security via BPL.

There is nothing - absolutely nothing that can't be cracked.

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

Beside the obvious privacy issue, I've been wondering if BPL will be another
security burden on the whole internet. It looks like it might be a code
cracker's playground, what with the network going all around, to the every
outlet in an area, to both subscribers and non subscribers. Could the
truely malicious do their damage from a non-subscribing home? I don't know,
I don't really know anything about networking.

Frank Dresser

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"Gregg" wrote in message
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Behold, Frank Dresser signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

How much privacy are the BPL folk promising? I have to figure there's
some level of encryption, but I'm curious about the level.

If MD5 can be cracked, forget 100% security via BPL.

There is nothing - absolutely nothing that can't be cracked.

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

Beside the obvious privacy issue, I've been wondering if BPL will be
another
security burden on the whole internet. It looks like it might be a code
cracker's playground, what with the network going all around, to the every
outlet in an area, to both subscribers and non subscribers. Could the
truely malicious do their damage from a non-subscribing home? I don't
know,
I don't really know anything about networking.

Frank Dresser

This is something to consider. It might very well be possible if someone is
clever enough. And sooner or later someone will be.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Hell, people are already "war chalking" in similar form with wireless
networking. I have even seen a device being sold in the last Sunday
newpaper, from one of the major retailers, a device for detecting wireless
network access points, and it was only in the $20-30 price range. Almost
like it is encouraging the practice.


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Ryan, KC8PMX
FF1-FF2-MFR-(pending NREMT-B!)
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... --. .... - . .-. ...

Beside the obvious privacy issue, I've been wondering if BPL will be
another
security burden on the whole internet. It looks like it might be a code
cracker's playground, what with the network going all around, to the
every
outlet in an area, to both subscribers and non subscribers. Could the
truely malicious do their damage from a non-subscribing home? I don't
know,
I don't really know anything about networking.

Frank Dresser

This is something to consider. It might very well be possible if someone
is
clever enough. And sooner or later someone will be.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Gregg wrote:
If MD5 can be cracked, forget 100% security via BPL.

There is nothing - absolutely nothing that can't be cracked.

Wander over to http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/c...g/numbers.html
and factor one of their numbers for money. They'll give you $10k to $200k if you do.

It's a very old challenge by now.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
...
Gregg wrote:
If MD5 can be cracked, forget 100% security via BPL.

There is nothing - absolutely nothing that can't be cracked.

Wander over to
http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/c...g/numbers.html
and factor one of their numbers for money. They'll give you $10k to $200k
if you do.

It's a very old challenge by now.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.



Will BPL be that secure? I haven't noticed any mention.

Frank Dresser

Frank Dresser wrote:

"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
..
Gregg wrote:
If MD5 can be cracked, forget 100% security via BPL.

There is nothing - absolutely nothing that can't be cracked.

Wander over to
http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/c...g/numbers.html
and factor one of their numbers for money. They'll give you $10k to $200k
if you do.

It's a very old challenge by now.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Will BPL be that secure? I haven't noticed any mention.

Frank Dresser

I have no idea; but public key crypto isn't rare.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.