(WShoots1) wrote in message ...
Most of the old (what used to be actually clear) clear-channel stations
are omni-directional.

A while back, I looked up one in Dallas and it has a humongous array for
daytime and an entirely different almost-as-large array at night. The pattern
must look strange on each, and each are sort of directional.

I think I'll go back and try to find in my files the call sign of that station
and then recheck on it.

Bill, K5BY

Maybe WBAP-820? They had always been one of the bigger clear channels
out of Dallas. MK

Michael wrote:

This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???



As a native Minnesotan, one thing that I've always found disappointing
is that WCCO (830 kHz) doesn't seem to get out as well as other clear
channel stations. Last week, I was road tripping, and as we rolled into
Escanaba, MI, I found I was able to get KYW, KDKA, WBZ, WHAS, and others
without trouble, but nothing on 830.

I'm wondering... do others find that WCCO is a more difficult catch than
other clear channels?


(P.S. I should probably mention that back in 1986, I was able to listen
to WCCO's Gopher football broadcast on a walkman in the Liberty Bowl
stadium in Memphis, TN, while watching the Gophers play that game live.
So it would seem that "CCO's signal got out better in the past.)

Mark Keith wrote:
(WShoots1) wrote in message ...

Most of the old (what used to be actually clear) clear-channel stations
are omni-directional.

A while back, I looked up one in Dallas and it has a humongous array for
daytime and an entirely different almost-as-large array at night. The pattern
must look strange on each, and each are sort of directional.

I think I'll go back and try to find in my files the call sign of that station
and then recheck on it.

Bill, K5BY


Maybe WBAP-820? They had always been one of the bigger clear channels
out of Dallas. MK

No, WBAP is non-directional.

My guess is he was looking at KFXR-1190. (long known as KLIF) IIRC
they use *twelve* towers at night - they have fewer towers for daytime,
at a different location.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

I listen to KGO 810 every night, about 350 miles from North LA County.
Also KKOH 780, Reno, occasionally. Can get tons of stations but don't
regularly listen.

The West is the best.

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:35:23 GMT, "Michael"
wrote:

Hiya....

After a few good threads on MW DX'ing, there has been some great info on
some of the AM broadcast "catches" that others have managed to get. There
was also a few posts regarding what AM radios are good for hearing far away
AM radio stations. As was pointed out in a previous post to a poster that
has asked the question of "what AM radio to buy", most of the AM DX'ing that
is being reported on is unreliable and usually too messy to listen to.

This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???

Mine from North NJ are (after sundown):

840 kHz WHAS Louisville, KY

1100 kHz WTAM Cleveland, OH

1110 kHz WBT Charlotte, NC

I can hear many other of the 50KW AM stations from time time time, but those
three above are almost always relable and listenable here in NJ.
Especially, WBT.

Maybe WBAP-820? They had always been one of the bigger clear channels out of
Dallas.

Thanks, Mark. I'll check that out asap. I wrote it down, to remind me to check
for that Dallas station I have in mind. It and WBAP may be the same.

Bill, K5BY

MD,

Back in the early 1960s I managed to receive "WBZ" in Boston using a
Hitachi TH-812 (TRF AM/MW Portable Radio) with an outboard
'inductively coupled' Tunable Ferrite Rod Antenna Feed by a 65 Foot
Random Wire Antenna.
GoTo= http://www.transistor.org/collection.../hitachi9.html

NOTE: This took me two winter seasons to log this DX catch.


OBTW: If you are interested in Old Transister Radios check out this
website:
GoTo= http://www.transistor.org/collection/collection.html


~ RHF
..
..
= = = "Michael"
= = = wrote in message .net...
Hiya....

After a few good threads on MW DX'ing, there has been some great info on
some of the AM broadcast "catches" that others have managed to get. There
was also a few posts regarding what AM radios are good for hearing far away
AM radio stations. As was pointed out in a previous post to a poster that
has asked the question of "what AM radio to buy", most of the AM DX'ing that
is being reported on is unreliable and usually too messy to listen to.

This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???

Mine from North NJ are (after sundown):

840 kHz WHAS Louisville, KY

1100 kHz WTAM Cleveland, OH

1110 kHz WBT Charlotte, NC

I can hear many other of the 50KW AM stations from time time time, but those
three above are almost always relable and listenable here in NJ.
Especially, WBT.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Home Page: http://md_dxing.tripod.com/
Northern NJ
R75 w/DSP, Kiwa agc/sync & audio mods
G5RV & 200ft longwire w/ICE-180
MFJ-1048 preselector
SoundBlstr Live PC card w/five piece Cambridge
speakers & full software mixer/eq.

Tony Calguire wrote:

Michael wrote:

This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???


As a native Minnesotan, one thing that I've always found disappointing
is that WCCO (830 kHz) doesn't seem to get out as well as other clear
channel stations. Last week, I was road tripping, and as we rolled into
Escanaba, MI, I found I was able to get KYW, KDKA, WBZ, WHAS, and others
without trouble, but nothing on 830.

I'm wondering... do others find that WCCO is a more difficult catch than
other clear channels?

I have the same problem with receiving WHAM-1180 Rochester, NY in the
daytime. I can get all the NYC and Boston 50-KW stations in the day but
not WHAM, which is about the same distance from me as NYC. I think it
may have something to do with their transmitter location and ground
(soil) conditions. Also the Hudson river valley may enhance daytime MW
propagation to my area from NYC.


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(RHF) wrote in message . com...
MD,

Back in the early 1960s I managed to receive "WBZ" in Boston using a
Hitachi TH-812 (TRF AM/MW Portable Radio) with an outboard
'inductively coupled' Tunable Ferrite Rod Antenna Feed by a 65 Foot
Random Wire Antenna.


From "Baghdad-by-the-Bay" to The "Back-Bay" of Bean Town.

At that time I lived in Oakland, California, USofA.
- OK-Land Cali-4-Ni-Ah ! (Coke-Land-Ese)
- - The Black-Hole of the NFL! (Raider Nation!)
- - - Mayor Jerry "MoonBeam" Brown announces . . .
- - - - a New Murder Rate of 100 "Dead Bodies" Year-to-Date.
- - - - - Drive-Thru-Coke-Land and Die !


~ RHF


GoTo= http://www.transistor.org/collection.../hitachi9.html

NOTE: This took me two winter seasons to log this DX catch.


OBTW: If you are interested in Old Transister Radios check out this
website:
GoTo= http://www.transistor.org/collection/collection.html


~ RHF
.
.
= = = "Michael"
= = = wrote in message .net...
Hiya....

After a few good threads on MW DX'ing, there has been some great info on
some of the AM broadcast "catches" that others have managed to get. There
was also a few posts regarding what AM radios are good for hearing far away
AM radio stations. As was pointed out in a previous post to a poster that
has asked the question of "what AM radio to buy", most of the AM DX'ing that
is being reported on is unreliable and usually too messy to listen to.

This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???

Mine from North NJ are (after sundown):

840 kHz WHAS Louisville, KY

1100 kHz WTAM Cleveland, OH

1110 kHz WBT Charlotte, NC

I can hear many other of the 50KW AM stations from time time time, but those
three above are almost always relable and listenable here in NJ.
Especially, WBT.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Home Page: http://md_dxing.tripod.com/
Northern NJ
R75 w/DSP, Kiwa agc/sync & audio mods
G5RV & 200ft longwire w/ICE-180
MFJ-1048 preselector
SoundBlstr Live PC card w/five piece Cambridge
speakers & full software mixer/eq.

WOW!!! That WBAP 820 in Dallas must be one of the original stations in the U.S.
Its 50kw anytime is on a single stick with no augmentation. And the size of
that tower... 192.10 degrees! That's over a half wavelength (180 degrees) tall.
The angle of radiation should be lower than that of most stations. It'd be a
good station for newbie MW DXers to look for at night

I checked on my Houston area anytime 50kw, KTRH 740, and it's puny in
comparison. It uses a cluster of 4 antenna towers with augmentation, to take a
nip here and a tuck there, to protect other stations. At night, the pattern is
changed, for the same reason. The towers are only 75 degrees tall, less than a
quarter wavelength (90).

I found the Dallas station I was thinking of. It's KFXR 1190. 50kw day, 5kw
night. During the day, it uses 4 towers inline, with 13 augmentations (ground
radials, I presume). At night, it uses 12 towers(!), different from the day
towers and aligned in a different direction. And it uses a whopping 28
augmentations!!! The day towers are 96d tall, the night towers are 87.2d tall.
They must have a good income at night to go to all that trouble for 5kw.

For those who don't know about it, MW AM station info can be found at:

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amq.html

Type in the state and call letters, when looking for a specific station, and
then scroll down and request the detailed report. The site gives a number of
options that can be used for searching the FCC data base.

Bill, K5BY

starman wrote:
I have the same problem with receiving WHAM-1180 Rochester, NY in the
daytime. I can get all the NYC and Boston 50-KW stations in the day but
not WHAM, which is about the same distance from me as NYC. I think it
may have something to do with their transmitter location and ground
(soil) conditions. Also the Hudson river valley may enhance daytime MW
propagation to my area from NYC.

WHAM's relatively high dial position doesn't help. A given amount of
power covers better at the bottom of the dial (daytime) than it does at
the top - by an amazing amount.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com