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Old November 7th 03, 03:12 PM
Jim Hackett
 
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You hit the nail on the head with your assessment!

"Frank White" wrote:

Digital is good for when you know where you want to go.
Analog is for finding out what's out there.

FW




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Old November 7th 03, 06:29 PM
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Yes, that's exactly the way I feel about it.
Pierre

"Frank White" wrote in message
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Ah yes. For mystery, excitement, and the thrill of discovery,
digital has nothing on slowly turning that knob and as the
indicator creeps across the spectrum, listening for the
voices, music, or lack of static that tells you yes, there
IS something there.

Digital is good for when you know where you want to go.
Analog is for finding out what's out there.

FW




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Old November 8th 03, 05:41 AM
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Frank White wrote:

In article ,
says...

I have two very good digital tuning shortwave radios, one with

synchronous
sideband, but I find myself choosing to play with and listen to the

little
analog tuning portable I have most of the time. I like to be able to

scan
the bands by hand with the dial and to see where I am. When I let the
digital do this automatically, it just doesn't seem the same. I just

don't
derive the same pleasure from the digital tuning, and I have no plans to
ever be a part of digital radio.

Anyone else feel like that? Maybe it's because my first shortwave was in

the
1960's.

Pierre


Ah yes. For mystery, excitement, and the thrill of discovery,
digital has nothing on slowly turning that knob and as the
indicator creeps across the spectrum, listening for the
voices, music, or lack of static that tells you yes, there
IS something there.

Digital is good for when you know where you want to go.
Analog is for finding out what's out there.

FW


It really depends on the particular analog and digital receivers you're
comparing. Using the tuning knob of my R8B at the 1-Khz rate, I can scan
an HF band as fast as any of my old Hallicrafters. Several hundred Khz
per second if you want to go that fast to see if a band is 'open'.
There's no muting and the synthesizer can keep up with that tuning rate.


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Old November 7th 03, 03:50 PM
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In article , pierrot51
@hotmail.com says...

"snip"

Anyone else feel like that? Maybe it's because my first shortwave was in the
1960's.

Pierre

Mine was in the fifties.

A. I prefer analog when I'm prowling the bands looking for
something interesting. I still love my NC-125 for this with its low
friction antibacklash flywheel knob'd bandspread. The Sony ICF 2010 is
useless; chuffing. The Sat 800 is pretty darn good.


B. I prefer digital when I'm looking for something specific and
know a frequency to keystroke and execute. I really like the Sat 800
for this, using my fat stubby digits for digital entry. The ICF 2010 is
pretty good, fast! I use a pencil eraser to get at those tiny buttons.
The NC-125 is near useless for this as I no longer have a calibration
marker generator, though my handmade calibration charts for the
principle bands will get me there eventually.


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Old November 8th 03, 03:41 AM
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"Pierre L" wrote in
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The Neurosis of the digital age. Admittedly people have their
preferences, and though I am fond of digital displays, I too find it much
more enjoyable to use analog tuning when searching the dial for
frequencies.

Regards

I have two very good digital tuning shortwave radios, one with
synchronous sideband, but I find myself choosing to play with and
listen to the little analog tuning portable I have most of the time. I
like to be able to scan the bands by hand with the dial and to see
where I am. When I let the digital do this automatically, it just
doesn't seem the same. I just don't derive the same pleasure from the
digital tuning, and I have no plans to ever be a part of digital
radio.

Anyone else feel like that? Maybe it's because my first shortwave was
in the 1960's.

Pierre





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Never say never.
Nothing is absolute.


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Old November 9th 03, 12:24 AM
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Maybe someone should come out with a radio that has both an analog dial and a
digital readout.

Ad to that knob tuning with a variable tuning rate, the speed determined upon
how much pressure is put upon the knob. Of course, that would require servo
motor drive. But I'm thinking of touch-sensitive keys on a synthesizer. Maybe
improving the up-down buttons on the radio. I hate the time-held and the manual
speed switching methods.

Bill, K5BY
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Old November 9th 03, 12:35 AM
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"WShoots1" wrote in message
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Maybe someone should come out with a radio that has both an analog dial

and a
digital readout.



I think the Grundig S350 is exactly that. I haven't used one, but that is
what I understand the features are.

-- Stinger


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Old November 10th 03, 05:37 AM
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Stinger: I think the Grundig S350 is exactly that. I haven't used one, but
that is what I understand the features are.

No, the 350 is about like the jWIN, tuning-wise. What I'd like is an analog
dial with analog tuning, but with a digital readout to provide the actual
frequency (as opposed to using crystal markers and analog dial correction). It
would require an analog receiver, with a frequency counter that would read the
freq diff between the LO and the IF output. Or something like that.

Bill, K5BY
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Old November 10th 03, 06:12 AM
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WShoots1 wrote:

Stinger: I think the Grundig S350 is exactly that. I haven't used one, but
that is what I understand the features are.

No, the 350 is about like the jWIN, tuning-wise. What I'd like is an analog
dial with analog tuning, but with a digital readout to provide the actual
frequency (as opposed to using crystal markers and analog dial correction). It
would require an analog receiver, with a frequency counter that would read the
freq diff between the LO and the IF output. Or something like that.

Bill, K5BY


Here's a place that sells a kit for a compact LCD frequency display that does exactly what you'd want. They can be programed for a variety of IF frequencies.

He's recently added two new options- a txco reference oscillator and a fluorescent display.

http://www.aade.com/dfd.htm

He seemed like a nice guy when I bought a kit from him.
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Old November 12th 03, 04:18 AM
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You can add a digital dial to many radios by getting a kit from

http://www.aade.com/

I haven't tried any yet myself, but I'd sure like to.

Doug, K8RFT


"WShoots1" wrote in message
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Stinger: I think the Grundig S350 is exactly that. I haven't used one,

but
that is what I understand the features are.

No, the 350 is about like the jWIN, tuning-wise. What I'd like is an

analog
dial with analog tuning, but with a digital readout to provide the actual
frequency (as opposed to using crystal markers and analog dial

correction). It
would require an analog receiver, with a frequency counter that would read

the
freq diff between the LO and the IF output. Or something like that.

Bill, K5BY





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