The 350 lacks SSB, though.

Stinger wrote:


"WShoots1" wrote in message
...
Maybe someone should come out with a radio that has both an analog dial
and a
digital readout.


I think the Grundig S350 is exactly that. I haven't used one, but that is
what I understand the features are.

-- Stinger

"J"

That is very true but the Grundig S350 (Tecsun BCL-2000) is designed
and met to be a Broad Cast Listeners (BCL) Radio and nothing more.

Simply think of the Grundig S350 as something 'in-between'
the CCRadioPlus+ ($160) and the GE Superadio III ($60) :

+ Shortwave Bands Coverage.

+ A little 'old time' Panasonic RF-2200/2900/2600 styling from the 1970s.

+ All for about $100.


jagrcl ~ RHF
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The 350 lacks SSB, though.



Also there is "NO" BFO for SSB & CW either ;-(
- - - BuT Hey! It's a "ONLY" a Broad Cast Listeners (BCL) Radio )



Stinger wrote:


"WShoots1" wrote in message
...
Maybe someone should come out with a radio that has both an analog dial
and a
digital readout.


I think the Grundig S350 is exactly that. I haven't used one, but that is
what I understand the features are.

-- Stinger

Thanks, Mark. It could be interesting to try adding that LCD display to the
little Bell & Howell. That may nor be possible, though. It has a big do all
chip in it that may prevent accessing the desired point in the circuit.

But I can think of a lot of old tube types, military and civilian, that such a
dislay would be great to have and possible to connect to.

I have a good Optoelectronics frequency counter, which I'll probably need to
use in the investigation.

Bill, K5BY

Try an SX-190. Analog all the way, and rock stable because the first
oscillator is crystal controlled. Nice, big, solid metal knob for
tuning. The dial on mine is accurate to within a kHz or so from one
end of any 500 kHz band to the other. There is a built in calibrator
that gives you 100 KHz and 25 kHz markers.

I also have a synthesized Sony radio. It has no tuning knob, only a
keypad, so tuning is either by direct freq entry or holding a button
down until the radio starts scanning. If you step up or down it goes
in 5 kHz hops. There is a pot you can use to fine tune +/- 3 kHz or
so it seems. There is a switch that allows 9 kHz channel hopping on
the MW band, but it is located behind the batteries inside the radio.

I used to have an R1051b. A brute of a receiver. Worked great, but
tuning was a major pain. I was using dumbells to build up my forearms
so I could tune the thing. I don't think there is a more stable radio
than that one. The ISB mode -both sidebands through two separate
detectors and audio paths allows for very accurate exhalted carrier AM
listening. Tuning in that mode is very interesting- as you move the
frequency the audio appears garbled in one ear then moves to both ears
and becomes ungarbled, then moves out the other ear becoming garbled
again. Great for stereo headphone listening!

MR

i had an old firestone console all my childhood and early adulthood. it
had flywheel tuning that must of weighed a pound, split-gear backlash
control and 6v6 output tubes into a 12 inch speaker. even my cheap
sangean portables that i have now are far superior in every way but one.
there is little satisfaction with any of them. i am not "one with my
radio" like i once was. my old radio was an extension of my senses....
like a telescope that allows me to see all the way around the world. the
new ones are like watching it all on web cam. maybe my brain interfaces
better to the radio with analog. to use digital requires a conscious
thought with every keystroke. spinning that knob is a more instinctive
action.

Jim wrote:

i had an old firestone console all my childhood and early adulthood. it
had flywheel tuning that must of weighed a pound, split-gear backlash
control and 6v6 output tubes into a 12 inch speaker. even my cheap
sangean portables that i have now are far superior in every way but one.
there is little satisfaction with any of them. i am not "one with my
radio" like i once was. my old radio was an extension of my senses....
like a telescope that allows me to see all the way around the world. the
new ones are like watching it all on web cam. maybe my brain interfaces
better to the radio with analog. to use digital requires a conscious
thought with every keystroke. spinning that knob is a more instinctive
action.

Have you ever used a digital receiver with a tuning knob? The better
ones all have a knob in addition to the keypad.


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"starman" wrote in message
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Have you ever used a digital receiver with a tuning knob? The better
ones all have a knob in addition to the keypad.


I think there's more to it than the type of knob. I think it may be seeing
the actual tuning scales. Our minds probably function more as a super analog
computer, and analog things are easier to see and judge. Same as with
digital watches vs those with hands, I guess. We can see numbers on a
digital display, but we can't see the pattern they fit in.
Pierre

starman wrote in :

Have you ever used a digital receiver with a tuning knob? The better
ones all have a knob in addition to the keypad.

Yep, and I have yet to find one that isn't a PITA.

Jim: i had an old firestone console all my childhood and early adulthood. it
had flywheel tuning that must of weighed a pound, split-gear backlash control
and 6v6 output tubes into a 12 inch speaker. even my cheap sangean portables
that i have now are far superior in every way but one. there is little
satisfaction with any of them. i am not "one with my radio" like i once was. my
old radio was an extension of my senses....

There ya go... It's not that I'm old and jaded that I look upon modern radios
as appliances. It's because of like you so well stated.

Back in my early ham days, peaking and dipping transmitters, for instance, was
part of the fun. That's why I liked the marine work I did before retirement.
One still had to dip and peak the shipboard transmitters.

I enjoyed working on old foreign made tube type receivers, too. When they
worked right and the band was open, there was none of that confounded noise
floor inherent in solid state receivers. If a station was transmitting anywhere
in the world, it probably could be heard.

(Sigh...)
Bill, K5BY

WShoots1 wrote:

Jim: i had an old firestone console all my childhood and early adulthood. it
had flywheel tuning that must of weighed a pound, split-gear backlash control
and 6v6 output tubes into a 12 inch speaker. even my cheap sangean portables
that i have now are far superior in every way but one. there is little
satisfaction with any of them. i am not "one with my radio" like i once was. my
old radio was an extension of my senses....


I don't neccesarily long to go back to that time, but I do remember
it - my first DX machine was a 1937 Zenith console. One huge round
glass window as the dial face, with a "magic eye" tuner, and two 6L6GC's
as the output (one of which was removed because the caps were so bad
that it hummed unbearably with both of them in). The actual dial knob
was about the size of a fifty-cent piece, but the cap of a Right Guard
aerosol can (remember that stuff?) fit over it perfectly, and gave extra
leverage to the flywheel. Oh, to give that a good, snapping twist and
watch that dial pointer swing so smooooothly half-way across the dial .
.. .

But I used *it* then, and I'm using a *modern* rig now, and the
modern rigs are better in almost every way but one - the romance of it.
But nostalgia ain't what it used to be, either. One week with the old
Zentih now, and I'd probably be begging for my R75 back.

Tony


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