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December 25th 03 02:28 PM


Here's a topic for discussion;

it's claimed that;
Rush's houskeeper blackmailed him,
threatening to tell of his addiction
unless he paid her $$$$$.

If you threaten to tell the truth about someone
unless they pay you, is it blackmail ?
Would it be a criminal offense ?
How is it different from extortion ?

If they can prove that she took money to keep quiet,
has she committed a criminal offense ?
further
If she took the cash, then told anyway,
would she be liable in civil court for "breach of contract" ?

????

( it's a slow SW day..... )

rj

Stinger December 25th 03 04:08 PM

Wow... "Law and Order" liberals!

And they said Rush was a hypocrite...

This is just too damn funny.

-- Stinger

"Richard Cranium" wrote in message
om...
nobody wrote in message

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In article ,
(Richard Cranium) wrote:

Soliloquy wrote in message
. 44...
"JC" wrote in

:

Payback time for what, his opinions?

Ummm, yes. Rush is the moron who said that all drug abusers should be
rounded up and thrown in prison. Are you saying this shouldn't apply
to him?



No, but the law is. Do you think he should be put in jail for his
opinions?


Since he's the one who said it, Yes, I think it should apply especially

to him.



Stinger December 25th 03 04:13 PM

RHF -- Excellent job identifying the latest "urban legend." Of course,
facts won't stop them from spreading this manure.

Next thing the libs will find out that they don't get $5,000 for forwarding
the Disney "e-mail test."

Let them down gently.

-- Stinger


"RHF" wrote in message
om...
kt, Kt. KT !

"KT" Says (Writes): "Rush would take several hundred pills on a
weekend
- several hundred
- think about it."

OBTW: "KW" I like Your Style: AKA: th "-s" :o)

IRT: Your Statement "KT" - Your NOSE is... G r o w i n g :o)

"Wilma Cline, 42, says Limbaugh was Hooked on the Potent
Prescription Drugs: OxyContin, Lorcet and Hydrocodone"
Source= http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-110349c.html

* Hydrocodone
Anti-cough agent and painkiller similar to morphine. Side effects
include anxiety, poor mental performance, emotional dependence,
drowsiness, mood changes, difficulty breathing and itchiness.

* Lorcet
Brand Name for the combination of Tylenol and Hydrocodone,
prescribed for moderate to severe pain. Side effects include
dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, decreased appetite, dizziness,
tiredness, muscle twitches, sweating and itching.

* OxyContin
Potent time-release medication for relief of moderate to severe
pain, known as hillbilly heroin because of black-market popularity
in some rural areas. Side effects include drowsiness, dizziness,
sweating, muscle twitches and decreased sex drive.
TBL: A Large Dose Can Be FATAL.
"The RUSH on Drugs"
http://www.seattleweekly.com/feature...s_limbaugh.php

Once again let us remember "KT" Says (Writes):
"Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend
- several hundred - think about it."

I Have Thought About It "KT".
Lets get Real Here "KT" Several Hundred of Any One of these Pills
would be a Death Sentence (Life Ending Drug Over Dose) for Anyone [.]

Last Time I Checked: Rush Is Alive !

"Rush Limbaugh Supported Legalizing Drugs in 12 March 1998"
Source= http://www.talkleft.com/archives/004605.html

"Drug Policy Alliance Urges Rush Limbaugh to Use Power and Influence
to Benefit Hundreds of Thousands of Fellow Addicts Languishing in
Prison"
Source=

http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/press.../pr1118b03.cfm

"America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude,
- - - Libertarians say"
Source= http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?...iew&record=652

"Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories"
Make-A-Shorter-Link URL-Key= http://makeashorterlink.com/?X48B313E6

"Rush Limbaugh and the Hypocrisy Smokescreen"
Source= http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1018-04.htm

ssi ~ RHF
= = = So Say I (My Personal Opinons and Beliefs Stated As Facts.)
.
.
= = = Ken Thomas
= = = wrote in message

. ..

Farve was an asshole for taking that sack so Strahan could get
the record... and Rush would take several hundred pills
on a weekend - several hundred - think about it.

.
- S N I P -
.




Stinger December 25th 03 04:18 PM

How true. But their sold-out career politicians are worse than our our
sold-out career politicians ;^)

The term-limit issue needs to be readdressed. They've swept it under the
rug again. We need people that will have to go back to real life and work
under the laws they created when in Congress.

-- Stinger

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"nobody" wrote in message
...


If being an asshole were sufficient grounds for incarceration, most the
the current collection of nobodies trying for the Democratic nomination
would be in jail.


Let's not damn with faint praise here... so would most of the current
administration.. but then, I figure that could easily be applied to nearly
every politician on both sides of the spectrum... :)





Michael Bryant December 25th 03 05:14 PM

From: "Stinger"

Wow... "Law and Order" liberals!



Only a extremist would really believe that one's desire for law and order is
determined by their political perspective.

Stop trolling on Christmas, you moron.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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Frank Dresser December 25th 03 06:28 PM


"RHF" wrote in message
om...

[snip]


Once again let us remember "KT" Says (Writes):
"Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend
- several hundred - think about it."

I Have Thought About It "KT".
Lets get Real Here "KT" Several Hundred of Any One of these Pills
would be a Death Sentence (Life Ending Drug Over Dose) for Anyone [.]

Last Time I Checked: Rush Is Alive !


It's probably not worth checking out, but I did anyway. I couldn't find
the lethal dose of oxycodone, but I did find something on heroin. Just
for the sake of arguement, let's say the lethal doses are similar:

Depending on purity and the user, a lethal dose of heroin may range from
200 to 500mg, but hardened addicts have survived doses of 1800mg and
over."

This is from:

http://www.drug-overdose.com/heroin.htm


So how much oxycodone is in each oxycontin pill?

"It is supplied in 10 mg, 20 mg, 40 mg, 80 mg, and 160 mg tablet
strengths for oral administration."

The website says the 40 mg pills are the most commonly abused.

Oxycontin, unlike heroin, is a time release drug.

"Taking broken, chewed, or crushed tablets could lead to the rapid
release and absorption of a potentially toxic dose of oxycodone."

These quotes are from:

http://www.stopoxycontinaddiction.co...ontin-pill.htm

I'll assume Rush wasn't chewing or grinding and snorting the pills.

The original poster didn't support his claim, but hundreds of pills in a
weekend aren't inconceiveable. It would take a fistful of 10 mg
oxycontin pills to have the kick that one 160 mg pill has. I suppose
Rush might have been managing the opiate side effects with other drugs.
Elvis did. Rush might have been downing vitamins and minerals and other
stuff the way bodybuilders and the health food crowd do.



"Rush Limbaugh Supported Legalizing Drugs in 12 March 1998"
Source= http://www.talkleft.com/archives/004605.html


The TalkLeft site has the headline wrong. Rush wasn't supporting
legalizing drugs:

"Raise the price sky high and fund all sorts of other wonderful social
programs."

Did Rush really want to "fund all sorts of other wonderful social
programs" with drug tax money? Or was he illustrating the absurdity of
the tabacco restrictions?



"Drug Policy Alliance Urges Rush Limbaugh to Use Power and Influence
to Benefit Hundreds of Thousands of Fellow Addicts Languishing in
Prison"
Source=

http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/press.../pr1118b03.cfm

There's actually a good point at the drugpolicy site. Prisions aren't
drug treatment centers.

Rush wasn't personally hijacking trucks or breaking into pharmacies.
But he was throwing cash into the criminal culture. Maybe, after this
case is worked out, he'll talk about such things as criminalizing drug
abuse. I'd like to hear it. But that's not the sort of radio which has
given him plenty of money to throw around.


"America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude,
- - - Libertarians say"
Source= http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?...iew&record=652



Very funny! To quote the Libertarian writer:

"The entire nation owes radio broadcaster Rush Limbaugh a debt of
gratitude, Libertarians say, because his ordeal has exposed every drug
warrior in America as a rank hypocrite."

How true! To be fair to Rush, the drug war rarely came up on his show.
So, on this issue, Rush is a low rank hypocrite.



"Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories"
Make-A-Shorter-Link URL-Key= http://makeashorterlink.com/?X48B313E6

"Rush Limbaugh and the Hypocrisy Smokescreen"
Source= http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1018-04.htm

That's an interesting cite. Among the things it says is:

"With appalling chutzpa, the conservative choir has excused Limbaugh's
hypocrisy while simultaneously accusing "liberals and the media" of
either themselves doing drugs or defending those who do. Indeed,
according to the warped logic of one of his most vocal supporters,
Limbaugh's hypocrisy is acceptable in large part because of the media's
hypocrisy."

But to claim Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite one would have to believe the
Rush Limbaugh radio character is the same as the real Rush Limbaugh.


ssi ~ RHF
= = = So Say I (My Personal Opinons and Beliefs Stated As Facts.)
.
.
.


Frank Dresser



nobody December 25th 03 06:44 PM

In article ,
(Richard Cranium) wrote:

nobody wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Richard Cranium) wrote:

Soliloquy wrote in message
. 44...
"JC" wrote in :

Payback time for what, his opinions?

Ummm, yes. Rush is the moron who said that all drug abusers should be
rounded up and thrown in prison. Are you saying this shouldn't apply
to him?



No, but the law is. Do you think he should be put in jail for his
opinions?


Since he's the one who said it, Yes, I think it should apply especially
to him.




OK, you're now on record for wanting to punish someone for expressing
his opinion. How American of you.

nobody December 25th 03 06:46 PM

In article ,
"RJ" wrote:

Here's a topic for discussion;

it's claimed that;
Rush's houskeeper blackmailed him,
threatening to tell of his addiction
unless he paid her $$$$$.

If you threaten to tell the truth about someone
unless they pay you, is it blackmail ?




Yep.



Would it be a criminal offense ?



It is.


How is it different from extortion ?



They may be two different names for the same thing.



If they can prove that she took money to keep quiet,
has she committed a criminal offense ?



Yep.



further
If she took the cash, then told anyway,
would she be liable in civil court for "breach of contract" ?



don't know.

nobody December 25th 03 06:47 PM

In article om,
"ASW" wrote:

It is not whether the law was broken, it was.

In the case of Bill Clinton he obstructed justice, perjured himself, and
tampered with witnesses. Rush obtained prescription drugs illegally,
tampered with witnesses,....

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Can you expand on that last one?

Stinger December 25th 03 08:16 PM

That's what was said in the thread by you and your buddies -- you moron.
Have someone read it to you.

Merry Christmas!

-- Stinger

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: "Stinger"


Wow... "Law and Order" liberals!



Only a extremist would really believe that one's desire for law and order

is
determined by their political perspective.

Stop trolling on Christmas, you moron.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)





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