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Hello Brian,
Just a quick note to say that my 1102 is now preferred by me to my Sony ICF-7600G, ATS909 and my my Grundig Yatchboy. The 1102 is not the best but for a $100 new it's a great deal. Regards, Alan "Brian Denley" wrote in message news:CAt7c.56170$_w.900795@attbi_s53... Overwelmed by Stupidity wrote: Sorry, I thought the sarcasm would have been quite evident. If you would or have followed the DEGEN DE1102 posts on this forum, you would have found people comparing this radio to the R-75 and Drake R8 and being surprised that it did not perform as well. Please also note again the name I posted under. Some people just never seem to understand. My orignal comment was based on comparing that radio to a 'decent' portable such as the Sony icf-7600. I made no attempt to compare it to a table top receiver. I don't think the DE1102 is a very good radio (even though it is cheap) and I wouldn't recommend it to someone starting in the hobby. |
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Hello,
I agree with you on that point. The trouble with these SW groups is that some folk will "trash" any receiver that is not theirs, it's always the same. Anything that might be good/better/value for money and they come on here telling everyone such and such is rubbish, so and so is junk with no evidence or any reasonable/subjective approach to the receiver in question. The best SW receiver I have used was in the navy, I could listen almost anything out there but as I am not able to buy this stuff I settle for the what I can afford, a Degen 1102 (plus a few others) which lets me listen to most stuff of interest to me. I feel a bit sorry for some folk....now where's me 1102........ Regards, Alan "Corbin Ray" wrote in message ... My feeling on the subject (which really gets some people's dander up sometimes) is that my DE1102 will let me pick up more than 95% of what a $5000 rig can get. If that 95% is enough for you, welcome to the club. |
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I have run up about 200 hours of
listening on my 1102 and have found it to be a capable little addition to my SW receiver collection, not the best receiver you can buy but certainly one of the best for a $100. Yes, my thoughts exactly. I would not compare the DE1102 (or my KA1102) to a Drake R8 or other high-end tabletop radio, but for a small portable shortwave, it's a good deal for the price. Jackie |
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"Jackie" wrote in message news:qjM7c.61264$_w.940878@attbi_s53... I have run up about 200 hours of listening on my 1102 and have found it to be a capable little addition to my SW receiver collection, not the best receiver you can buy but certainly one of the best for a $100. Yes, my thoughts exactly. I would not compare the DE1102 (or my KA1102) to a Drake R8 or other high-end tabletop radio, but for a small portable shortwave, it's a good deal for the price. Jackie Actually, I would qualify it even further. The KA1102's niche is as a unique "Walkman"-type radio for use with light stereo headphones on-the-go. It really excels in that application. However, if you're going to put it on a nightstand and listen via the speaker, you would be much better off with a YB400 or an ATS-909 (both of which are more expensive than a KA1102 -- but well worth it in terms of better audio quality). -- Stinger |
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"Stinger" wrote in message . .. Actually, I would qualify it even further. The KA1102's niche is as a unique "Walkman"-type radio for use with light stereo headphones on-the-go. It really excels in that application. I can see how it would fit neatly into that niche. My KA1102 is barely larger than my Yaesu VX-5R handi-talkie, which is pocket-sized. Now that it's warming up outside, I'm going to take my KA1102 out with me when I go walking and biking. Jackie |
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However, if you're going to put it on a nightstand and listen via the speaker, you would be much better off with a YB400 or an ATS-909 (both of which are more expensive than a KA1102 -- but well worth it in terms of better audio quality). Had both the YB400 and the 909....how does the 1102 compare to them in performance? Gil -- Please remove NOSPAM to reply Stinger wrote in message . .. "Jackie" wrote in message news:qjM7c.61264$_w.940878@attbi_s53... I have run up about 200 hours of listening on my 1102 and have found it to be a capable little addition to my SW receiver collection, not the best receiver you can buy but certainly one of the best for a $100. Yes, my thoughts exactly. I would not compare the DE1102 (or my KA1102) to a Drake R8 or other high-end tabletop radio, but for a small portable shortwave, it's a good deal for the price. Jackie Actually, I would qualify it even further. The KA1102's niche is as a unique "Walkman"-type radio for use with light stereo headphones on-the-go. It really excels in that application. However, if you're going to put it on a nightstand and listen via the speaker, you would be much better off with a YB400 or an ATS-909 (both of which are more expensive than a KA1102 -- but well worth it in terms of better audio quality). -- Stinger |
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Alan J Giddings wrote:
Hello Brian, Just a quick note to say that my 1102 is now preferred by me to my Sony ICF-7600G, ATS909 and my my Grundig Yatchboy. The 1102 is not the best but for a $100 new it's a great deal. Regards, Alan Alan: You find it superior because it costs less? I tried one for three days and found it to be a rather cheap feeling radio with VERY pedestrian performance. The price means nothing to me if the performance isn't decent...and it wasn't. -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
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"gil" wrote in message link.net...
Had both the YB400 and the 909....how does the 1102 compare to them in performance? Gil Gil, I have a DX-398 (a 909) and an 1102 and ears wise, when the 1102 is using its included wire it performs very well compared to the 398 (909). The 398 will handle MUCH more antenna and what that does for you is not for me to say. The DX-398 has a better speaker and sound, but it should for the price and it is comparatively much bigger than the 1102. The 1102 seems to do better on batteries for me. I don't think you can go wrong with either, it is just a matter of money in my book. acs http://homepage.mac.com/chevyorange |
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In article v6O7c.61320$JL2.805657@attbi_s03,
"Brian Denley" wrote: You find it superior because it costs less? I tried one for three days and found it to be a rather cheap feeling radio with VERY pedestrian performance. The price means nothing to me if the performance isn't decent...and it wasn't. I would have to say that you had a lemon. I just received a Kaito KA1102 (same radio), and it's performance is really quite amazing. Now before you think "he has no experience", let me say that I also have an original Drake R8, a Grundig Satellit 650, a Radio Shack DX-440 and several antique tube receivers. The 1102 is a great compact portable, that really excels when using headphones. It's general performance is equal to the DX-440, but of course the DX-440 sounds better thru it's speaker, which is to be expected. Thru headphones they are nearly identical. Keep in mind the DX-440 weighs about 5 pounds including it's 6 "D" batteries, is about 3 times bigger, and cost $150 when new. The 1102 was $80 including shipping. It's a great addition to a collection, and IMO can't be beat as a travel portable. Dan |
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Dan wrote:
I would have to say that you had a lemon. I just received a Kaito KA1102 (same radio), and it's performance is really quite amazing. It's a great addition to a collection, and IMO can't be beat as a travel portable. Dan Dan: I put it up against my Sony portable because that's what I use as a travel radio. The Sony (SW55) had much better weak signal sensitivity (it also costs much more!) and so I was dissapointed. But my main problem with these Chinese portables is that they remind me of the Japanese portables of many years ago: poor quality control. Japanese radios now have excellent quality and hopefully it's only a matter of time until the Chinese manufacturers get it right. Until then I will look elsewhere for a smaller travel radio: maybe the SW1 or SW100. -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
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