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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Dee D. Flint wrote: "reasonable doubt" wrote in message . net... ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access by 2007. Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot Act II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a population as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter after all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells them to. Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here. Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even via a wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used alone, means BPL (Broadband over Power Line). I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband. As one of the endangered species of fiscal conservatives, I wonder how this will be funded? There are large parts of the country that will require many many miles of fiber to reach one family. - Mike KB3EIA - What really needs to be done is at the point of end of the line, simply go with RF. Works for cellular quite well. Small low power 'nodes'. Linked by fiber and/or wire. No RFI, better security, and a dang lot easier to run and keep working. Dan/W4NTI |
"RadioGuy" wrote in message ... reasonable doubt wrote in message . net... ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access by 2007. Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot Act II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a population as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter after all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells them to. Hardly... I see broadband as another step toward Total Information Access... RG BPL will be a god send for the FBI. All they will need to do is plug in and listen. Probably won't even need a piece of paper. Since its all over the HF spectrum anyway. So much for secure connections. Now do you all understand what is REALLY going on? Dan/W4NTI |
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:32:11 GMT, Dan/W4NTI wrote:
What really needs to be done is at the point of end of the line, simply go with RF. Works for cellular quite well. Small low power 'nodes'. Linked by fiber and/or wire. No RFI, better security, and a dang lot easier to run and keep working. That's what someone did in rural eastern Oregon to cover a 600 square mile area - lots of non-licensed low power Part 15 "Wi-Fi" nodes. Off-the shelf low-cost equipment for both the provider and the subscriber and no communication interference problems. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon |
= = = "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
= = = ... "reasonable doubt" wrote in message . net... ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access by 2007. Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot Act II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a population as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter after all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells them to. Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here. Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even via a wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used alone, means BPL (Broadband over Power Line). I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE DDF, Liberal-Left Propaganga is NOT what Bush actually said. But the Subject HeadLine "Bush Backs Broadband" and the Twisting of the Message to "Bush Backs PBL" ~ RHF .. |
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"RadioGuy" wrote in message ... reasonable doubt wrote in message v.net... ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access by 2007. Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot Act II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a population as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter after all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells them to. Hardly... I see broadband as another step toward Total Information Access... RG BPL will be a god send for the FBI. All they will need to do is plug in and listen. Probably won't even need a piece of paper. Since its all over the HF spectrum anyway. So much for secure connections. Now do you all understand what is REALLY going on? Dan/W4NTI And the average teenage hacker will have a hayday and so will the hackers stealing passwords, personsl infomation, credit card info, ect., ect. |
RHF wrote:
= = = "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message = = = ... "reasonable doubt" wrote in message v.net... ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access by 2007. Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot Act II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a population as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter after all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells them to. Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here. Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even via a wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used alone, means BPL (Broadband over Power Line). I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE DDF, Liberal-Left Propaganga is NOT what Bush actually said. But the Subject HeadLine "Bush Backs Broadband" and the Twisting of the Message to "Bush Backs PBL" Since you invoked the "L" word, it is kind of strange that the methods of implementing the "universal access called for in the speech: "We ought to have universal, affordable access to broadband technology by the year 2007," Bush said in a speech focusing mostly on homeownership. "And then we ought to make sure that as soon as possible thereafter consumers have plenty of choices..." Assuming that we would have to expand the cable tv broadband system - and if there is to be universal access, this would almost certainly mean changing cable data service to a public utility. Remember that cable is at present NOT a Public utility, it cannot be forced to run it's lines where it doesn't see a profit. Supplying broadband to everyone in the country is a project similar to the electrification of rural America. And right now, there are certainly *not* plenty of choices. So it is left up to the listener to determine how the number of choices will be expanded. So to me it is a very liberal idea to even attempt universal broadband access, and since not many other choices are available for increasing the number of choices, it by default includes BPL. - Mike KB3EIA - |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... RHF wrote: = = = "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message = = = ... "reasonable doubt" wrote in message v.net... ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access by 2007. Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot Act II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a population as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter after all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells them to. Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here. Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even via a wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used alone, means BPL (Broadband over Power Line). I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE DDF, Liberal-Left Propaganga is NOT what Bush actually said. But the Subject HeadLine "Bush Backs Broadband" and the Twisting of the Message to "Bush Backs PBL" Since you invoked the "L" word, it is kind of strange that the methods of implementing the "universal access called for in the speech: "We ought to have universal, affordable access to broadband technology by the year 2007," Bush said in a speech focusing mostly on homeownership. "And then we ought to make sure that as soon as possible thereafter consumers have plenty of choices..." Assuming that we would have to expand the cable tv broadband system - and if there is to be universal access, this would almost certainly mean changing cable data service to a public utility. Remember that cable is at present NOT a Public utility, it cannot be forced to run it's lines where it doesn't see a profit. Supplying broadband to everyone in the country is a project similar to the electrification of rural America. And most of the electrification of rural America was NOT done by the utilities. The rural residents themselves banded together and got the lines run. Once the lines were in place, then the public "futility" was happy to take over as the major expense had already been covered by someone else. And right now, there are certainly *not* plenty of choices. So it is left up to the listener to determine how the number of choices will be expanded. So to me it is a very liberal idea to even attempt universal broadband access, and since not many other choices are available for increasing the number of choices, it by default includes BPL. - Mike KB3EIA - The universal access with multiple choices means very heavy investment as now that could be construed to mean that BPL, DSL, cable, and WI-FI all need set up in our rural areas to provide those choices. Guess what! Ain't gonna happen. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Dee D. Flint wrote:
And most of the electrification of rural America was NOT done by the utilities. The rural residents themselves banded together and got the lines run. Once the lines were in place, then the public "futility" was happy to take over as the major expense had already been covered by someone else. Most of the electrification of rural America was accomplished via the Rural Electrification Authority aka REA. There had to be so many houses per mile to justify the cost of running the lines and you had to be within a certain distance of the right-of-way to get service or pay for the cost of the line to be run to your residence. |
= = = Mike Coslo wrote in message
= = = ... - - - - - S N I P - - - - - Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here. Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even via a wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used alone, means BPL (Broadband over Power Line). I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband. As one of the endangered species of fiscal conservatives, I wonder how this will be funded ? There are large parts of the country that will require many many miles of fiber to reach one family. - Mike KB3EIA - The Funding is already there . . . The Gore TAX for School Internet Connection. Run the Main BPL Trunk-Lines and Distribution Points to the Schools and have the Federal Government pay for that with the existing Gore TAX. WHY - BPL Broadband In Every Class Room - How Can Anyone Say NO To That ! Once Neighborhood Schools become the Distribution Points and the BPL Broadband a 'low cost' BPL Broadband "Product" can be offered within the neighborhood for home use. ~ RHF .. |
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