"David" wrote in message
...
''Classical liberalism'' is an oxymoron.

It's hard ot respond to this since I'm not sure if you don't know what
an oxymoron is or don't know what liberalism is in the classic sense.

Al Franken is a New Yorker.

This comment alone should give you pause the next time you're tempted
to state anything as fact.


Today's ''liberals'' are truer to their heritage than the nutjobs
running around today falsely claiming to be ''conservatives''.

See above.

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:07:51 -0500, "T. Early"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
I said ''Liberal''

The word has been turned into a put-down by the neofascists. Mr.
Franken intends to reclaim it. He uses it himself without
hesitation.



Nice try, Franken-phile. Hollywood Al isn't reclaiming
anything--he
is your standard left-wing, one-note, Bush-bashing -modern day-
liberal who has no clue what classical "liberalism" used to be
about.
He may use the term "without hesitation," but, like most things he
says without hesitation, he's wrong. The word has been turned into
a
put-down very justifiably because so many of today's liberals are
so
clueless about the heritage of their alleged political philosophy,
as
they are about the history of pretty much everything.

"David" wrote in message
...

[snip]


"We cannot think of a better way to bring our important message
directly into the cars, homes and minds of Americans than broadcasting
on XM Satellite Radio," said Mark Walsh, CEO of Progress Media. "There
is a great underserved market of Americans who want to hear compelling
and funny talk voices expressing viewpoints long absent from the radio
airwaves. Air America on XM will go a long way to correcting this
imbalance at a particularly opportune time."


[snip]

I listened in for about an hour. Nothing but Bush bashing. Bashing
politicians is OK, but it gets tiresome. I wonder if they really have a
handle on the success of Rush Limbaugh. Rush was one of the first media
people who made it seem fun to be a conservative.

Conservatives used to be ridiculed as a bunch of uptight squares. It was
the conservatives who wrote the Blue Laws. It was the conservatives who
banned books and movies. It was the conservatives who got the vapors when
skirts went above the knee.

Rush properly turned the ridicule back on the liberals (actually it's the
progressives, but that distinction got blurred about a century ago). The
liberals tell you not to smoke. The liberals punish people who don't wear a
seat belt. The liberals say a steak is not only unheathy, but meat
production will destroy the world's environment. The modern
liberals(progressives) have become the new administrators of the nanny
state.

I think liberal talk radio could be successful. But I'm sure guilt radio
will never get past the NPR level.

Frank Dresser

Neither Bush nor Rush Limbaugh are the slightest bit ''conservative''.
They are right-wing wackos.

Gordon Liddy is a conservative. Ben Stein is a conservative. Both of
them called Al Franken yesterday and wished him great success.

And please give me a break about tedious bashing. ****ing Limbaugh
still whines about Bill Clinton.

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 05:53:59 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .

[snip]


"We cannot think of a better way to bring our important message
directly into the cars, homes and minds of Americans than broadcasting
on XM Satellite Radio," said Mark Walsh, CEO of Progress Media. "There
is a great underserved market of Americans who want to hear compelling
and funny talk voices expressing viewpoints long absent from the radio
airwaves. Air America on XM will go a long way to correcting this
imbalance at a particularly opportune time."


[snip]

I listened in for about an hour. Nothing but Bush bashing. Bashing
politicians is OK, but it gets tiresome. I wonder if they really have a
handle on the success of Rush Limbaugh. Rush was one of the first media
people who made it seem fun to be a conservative.

Conservatives used to be ridiculed as a bunch of uptight squares. It was
the conservatives who wrote the Blue Laws. It was the conservatives who
banned books and movies. It was the conservatives who got the vapors when
skirts went above the knee.

Rush properly turned the ridicule back on the liberals (actually it's the
progressives, but that distinction got blurred about a century ago). The
liberals tell you not to smoke. The liberals punish people who don't wear a
seat belt. The liberals say a steak is not only unheathy, but meat
production will destroy the world's environment. The modern
liberals(progressives) have become the new administrators of the nanny
state.

I think liberal talk radio could be successful. But I'm sure guilt radio
will never get past the NPR level.

Frank Dresser

"David" wrote in message
news
Neither Bush nor Rush Limbaugh are the slightest bit ''conservative''.
They are right-wing wackos.

Gordon Liddy is a conservative. Ben Stein is a conservative. Both of
them called Al Franken yesterday and wished him great success.

And please give me a break about tedious bashing. ****ing Limbaugh
still whines about Bill Clinton.


I think Rush was at his best when he was at his best at his start, during
the first Bush's administration. Rush was more conservative and less
Republican. He was even saying nice things about such disparate
conservatives as Pat Buchanan and the libertarians.

Rush became a cheerleader for the Republican establishment just before the
1992 elections. His show still had it's good moments, but I haven't
listened much lately.

Frank Dresser

Cool - I'll probably be getting an XM setup soon because of the Jesus
Freaks running freedom of speech right out of the country. My
favorite morning show is being targeted and will probably move to
satellite due to the FCC deciding for us what "indecency" is.

I never thought I'd be going for Satellite but it looks like it has
its foothold. Thank God that the advertised Grundig Eton 900 Whatever
is supposed to have a Satellite receiver built in ... best of all
worlds for me. But will it ever be sold???

"AC Smith" wrote in message
om...
Cool - I'll probably be getting an XM setup soon because of the
Jesus
Freaks running freedom of speech right out of the country. My
favorite morning show is being targeted and will probably move to
satellite due to the FCC deciding for us what "indecency" is.


Yeah, freedom of speech is really threatened by coming down on a
morning show over yakking about anal sex on the -public- airwaves.
What a friggin' outrage--after all, only those @#$$@ Jesus freaks
would get upset about that.

Lenny wrote:

Yeah, freedom of speech is really threatened by coming down on a
morning show over yakking about anal sex on the -public- airwaves.

It wasn't about freedom of speech. Cinammon Cheeri-O-s sales were
plummeting nationwide. It was bad for business.




mike

AirAmerica Radio will also be on Sirius Satellite radio beginning April
19.

--
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

NPR morning Edition has about 9 million listeners. Almost
twice the audience of the "Today" show which is the leader
of the morning TV news magazines.


Frank Dresser wrote:
"David" wrote in message
Th

I think liberal talk radio could be successful. But I'm sure guilt radio
will never get past the NPR level.

Frank Dresser

"Larry Ozarow" wrote in message
...
NPR morning Edition has about 9 million listeners. Almost
twice the audience of the "Today" show which is the leader
of the morning TV news magazines.


I'm sure Rush's afternoon numbers are higher, and that's not counting all
the Rush clones on the radio. But you raise a good point.

I doubt the new liberal radio hosts will get a small fraction of NPR numbers
unless they can let liberalism somehow seem at least a bit hedonistic, at
least once in a while.

I listened to Franken again today. Same Bush bashing grind.

Frank Dresser