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Old April 1st 04, 04:00 PM
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

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Old April 1st 04, 04:24 PM
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In article , Burr
writes:


http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp



OK, so he didn't take out an entire batallion single handed;

- BUT he has seen combat, and knows first hand what it's like.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp


"On Feb. 28, 1969, Kerry's boat received word that a swift boat was being
ambushed. As Kerry raced to the scene, his boat became another target, as a
Viet Cong B-40 rocket blast shattered a window. Kerry could have ordered his
crew to hit the enemy and run. But the skipper had a more aggressive reaction
in mind. Beach the boat, Kerry ordered, and the craft's bow was quickly rammed
upon the shoreline. Out of the bush appeared a teenager in a loin cloth,
clutching a grenade launcher. "

This is more akin to what we're facing in the decades to come.

Not batallions of tanks, but 2-3 guys with RPG's , AK-47's or Suicide Bombs...
Or worse.



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Old April 1st 04, 05:36 PM
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"Diverd4777" wrote in message
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In article , Burr


writes:
This is more akin to what we're facing in the decades to come.


Not batallions of tanks, but 2-3 guys with RPG's , AK-47's or Suicide

Bombs...
Or worse.

What do you mean, were facing that now!



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Old April 2nd 04, 04:27 AM
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Diverd4777 wrote:



"On Feb. 28, 1969, Kerry's boat received word that a swift boat was being
ambushed. As Kerry raced to the scene, his boat became another target, as a
Viet Cong B-40 rocket blast shattered a window. Kerry could have ordered his
crew to hit the enemy and run. But the skipper had a more aggressive reaction
in mind. Beach the boat, Kerry ordered, and the craft's bow was quickly rammed
upon the shoreline. Out of the bush appeared a teenager in a loin cloth,
clutching a grenade launcher. "


Doing everything against military proceedure.

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Old April 2nd 04, 09:44 PM
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= = = Burr wrote in message
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp


"Kerry declined a request from the Globe to sign a waiver
authorizing the release of military documents that are covered
under the Privacy Act and that might shed more light on the
extent of the treatment Kerry needed as a result of the wounds."
SOURCE= http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

What is John 'f' Kerry - Hiding ?

Why won't John 'f' Kerry release All of his Military Records ?

What is John 'f' Kerry - Covering Up ?

Should a man who is a 'candidate' for the Presidency of the USofA
be Open and Honest with the American People ?

What is John 'f' Kerry - Keeping Secret ?

The American People - Have The Right To Know !

John 'f' Kerry - Release Your Military Records Now !

ja ~ RHF

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Old April 3rd 04, 02:13 AM
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In article ,
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"So Kerry shot and killed the guerrilla. "I don't have a second's question
about that, nor does anybody who was with me,"


http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

Snip

On Feb. 28, 1969, Kerry's boat received word that a swift boat was being
ambushed. As Kerry raced to the scene, his boat became another target, as a
Viet Cong B-40 rocket blast shattered a window. Kerry could have ordered his
crew to hit the enemy and run. But the skipper had a more aggressive reaction
in mind. Beach the boat, Kerry ordered, and the craft's bow was quickly rammed
upon the shoreline. Out of the bush appeared a teenager in a loin cloth,
clutching a grenade launcher.

An enemy was just feet away, holding a weapon with enough firepower to blow up
the boat. Kerry's forward gunner, [Tommy] Belodeau, shot and clipped the Viet
Cong in the leg. Then Belodeau's gun jammed, according to other crewmates
(Belodeau died in 1997). [Michael] Medeiros tried to fire at the Viet Cong, but
he couldn't get a shot off.

In an interview, Kerry added a chilling detail.

"This guy could have dispatched us in a second, but for . . . I'll never be
able to explain, we were literally face to face, he with his B-40 rocket and us
in our boat, and he didn't pull the trigger. I would not be here today talking
to you if he had," Kerry recalled. "And Tommy clipped him, and he started going
[down.] I thought it was over."

Instead, the guerrilla got up and started running. "We've got to get him, make
sure he doesn't get behind the hut, and then we're in trouble," Kerry recalled.


So Kerry shot and killed the guerrilla. "I don't have a second's question about
that, nor does anybody who was with me," he said. "He was running away with a
live B-40, and, I thought, poised to turn around and fire it." Asked whether
that meant Kerry shot the guerrilla in the back, Kerry said, "No, absolutely
not. He was hurt, other guys were shooting from back, side, back. There is no,
there is not a scintilla of question in any person's mind who was there [that]
this guy was dangerous, he was a combatant, he had an armed weapon."

Another member of the crew confirmed Kerry's account for the Boston Globe and
expressed no doubt that Kerry's action had saved both the boat and its crew:

The crewman with the best view of the action was Frederic Short, the man in the
tub operating the twin guns. Short had not talked to Kerry for 34 years, until
after he was recently contacted by a Globe reporter. Kerry said he had "totally
forgotten" Short was on board that day.


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DiverD,

We are not talking about this specific instance.

But about the other more general instances that John 'f' Kerry
had claimed in his VVAW Years to have participated in personally.

LEAST YOU (WE) FORGET.
John 'f' Kerry has Privately and Publicly 'admitted' to
"Participating In" WAR CRIMES Against Vietnamese Civilians
during his tour in Vietnam.


There Is NO Gravity - Reality Sucks ~ RHF
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= = = (Diverd4777) wrote in message
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In article ,
(RHF) writes:





"So Kerry shot and killed the guerrilla. "I don't have a second's question
about that, nor does anybody who was with me,"


http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

Snip

On Feb. 28, 1969, Kerry's boat received word that a swift boat was being
ambushed. As Kerry raced to the scene, his boat became another target, as a
Viet Cong B-40 rocket blast shattered a window. Kerry could have ordered his
crew to hit the enemy and run. But the skipper had a more aggressive reaction
in mind. Beach the boat, Kerry ordered, and the craft's bow was quickly rammed
upon the shoreline. Out of the bush appeared a teenager in a loin cloth,
clutching a grenade launcher.

An enemy was just feet away, holding a weapon with enough firepower to blow up
the boat. Kerry's forward gunner, [Tommy] Belodeau, shot and clipped the Viet
Cong in the leg. Then Belodeau's gun jammed, according to other crewmates
(Belodeau died in 1997). [Michael] Medeiros tried to fire at the Viet Cong, but
he couldn't get a shot off.

In an interview, Kerry added a chilling detail.

"This guy could have dispatched us in a second, but for . . . I'll never be
able to explain, we were literally face to face, he with his B-40 rocket and us
in our boat, and he didn't pull the trigger. I would not be here today talking
to you if he had," Kerry recalled. "And Tommy clipped him, and he started going
[down.] I thought it was over."

Instead, the guerrilla got up and started running. "We've got to get him, make
sure he doesn't get behind the hut, and then we're in trouble," Kerry recalled.


So Kerry shot and killed the guerrilla. "I don't have a second's question about
that, nor does anybody who was with me," he said. "He was running away with a
live B-40, and, I thought, poised to turn around and fire it." Asked whether
that meant Kerry shot the guerrilla in the back, Kerry said, "No, absolutely
not. He was hurt, other guys were shooting from back, side, back. There is no,
there is not a scintilla of question in any person's mind who was there [that]
this guy was dangerous, he was a combatant, he had an armed weapon."

Another member of the crew confirmed Kerry's account for the Boston Globe and
expressed no doubt that Kerry's action had saved both the boat and its crew:

The crewman with the best view of the action was Frederic Short, the man in the
tub operating the twin guns. Short had not talked to Kerry for 34 years, until
after he was recently contacted by a Globe reporter. Kerry said he had "totally
forgotten" Short was on board that day.

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RHF wrote:

DiverD,

We are not talking about this specific instance.

But about the other more general instances that John 'f' Kerry
had claimed in his VVAW Years to have participated in personally.

LEAST YOU (WE) FORGET.
John 'f' Kerry has Privately and Publicly 'admitted' to
"Participating In" WAR CRIMES Against Vietnamese Civilians
during his tour in Vietnam.


He indeed did, and he should be brought up on charges for doing so.


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