B Banton wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 10:10:11 -0400, starman wrote:

Dan wrote:

In article ,
(oan) wrote:

Dear friends,
I know you are fed up with these kind of "this or that" questions.
But, if you spare a couple of seconds to answer, I'll be very happy. I
searched the archives and other resources from net, i downloaded the
user's manuels of both radios. It seems that satellite has more
specialities but it is unreliable. You have to be lucky if you choose
a satellite800, because, some users say they had unending factory
problems with their product. I live in Istanbul and I will order it
from a friend who lives in US (because it is the half price in US).

I would go for the Satellit 800. The early ones had quality control
issues, now they seem to be pretty stable. Since you are having a US
friend order it, he can check it out before he ships it to you.

If I had $500 to spend, the 800 is definitely the radio I would be
getting. I already have a 650, and just picked up a 700 on eBay. I
may yet get an 800 if I can find a good deal on one.

Have you considered a used 700? It will likely perform as well - if
not better - than a new 800, and will cost considerably less.

Dan



The sync' detector on the '800' is much better than the '700'.

Simply not true.

It is VERY MUCH true. I sold my Satellit 700 as it was a big
disappointment to me. The Satellit 800 is superior to the 700. The
sync detector on the 800 is superior to that of the 700. I purchased
my 700 from Universal Radio and was so unhappy with it they exchanged
it for another. Still a disappointment. My Sat 500 was much better
than the 700 except that the sync detector on the 700 wasn't as flawed
as the one on the 500.

"Gary" wrote in message
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B Banton wrote in message
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 10:10:11 -0400, starman wrote:

Dan wrote:

In article ,
(oan) wrote:

Dear friends,
I know you are fed up with these kind of "this or that" questions.
But, if you spare a couple of seconds to answer, I'll be very
happy. I
searched the archives and other resources from net, i downloaded
the
user's manuels of both radios. It seems that satellite has more
specialities but it is unreliable. You have to be lucky if you
choose
a satellite800, because, some users say they had unending factory
problems with their product. I live in Istanbul and I will order it
from a friend who lives in US (because it is the half price in US).

I would go for the Satellit 800. The early ones had quality control
issues, now they seem to be pretty stable. Since you are having a
US
friend order it, he can check it out before he ships it to you.

If I had $500 to spend, the 800 is definitely the radio I would be
getting. I already have a 650, and just picked up a 700 on eBay.
I
may yet get an 800 if I can find a good deal on one.

Have you considered a used 700? It will likely perform as well - if
not better - than a new 800, and will cost considerably less.

Dan



The sync' detector on the '800' is much better than the '700'.

Simply not true.

It is VERY MUCH true. I sold my Satellit 700 as it was a big
disappointment to me. The Satellit 800 is superior to the 700. The
sync detector on the 800 is superior to that of the 700. I purchased
my 700 from Universal Radio and was so unhappy with it they exchanged
it for another. Still a disappointment. My Sat 500 was much better
than the 700 except that the sync detector on the 700 wasn't as flawed
as the one on the 500.

The new Drake sync detectors are outstanding! I think it uses the same SD.

DeWayne

In article ,
says...
I know, some of you will advice me table top receivers like icom R75.
But, I don't have more then 500 dollars for this radio.
thank you very much for sparing your valuable time.

$500 is about what the R75 goes for in the US. If you'd asked a couple
weeks ago it would have been even less since Icom had a $50 factory
rebate deal going. I don't know what currency exchange rates and
shipping would do to the final price for you. You might also check the
used equipment lists at some of the online dealers. R75s pop up fairly
often. Ebay is also an option, though getting someone to ship to
Istanbul might be a bit of a challenge. Perhaps your friend who was
going to help with the Sat800 might be able to help out.

If you're willing to accept used equipment, very good quality receivers
from the past frequently appear on ebay.

One other that I think would generally be an improvement over the 7600
would be the TenTec RX320. It does have the downside of requiring a
computer to operate the radio (no front panel controls), but the price
should be well within your limit. They go for about US$330 direct from
the factory.

-- Jay

From: (oan)

I already have a sony icf 7600D. But, it is not satisfactory for the
purposes i use it. I need a stronger receiver. I want to listen to
the weak local radio stations of central asia and siberia which
usually uses 49 and 60 meter bands. I don't like to listen to the
amateurs.

It sounds like you're into DXing. The much smaller SW-77, in my opinion, is a
better receiver for DXing than is the SAT800. I own both and I think the higher
noise floor and quality control issues make the SAT800 a receiver for American
program listeners.

A better bet might be a good used Sony ICF-2010.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

oan wrote:
Dear friends,
I know you are fed up with these kind of "this or that" questions.
But, if you spare a couple of seconds to answer, I'll be very happy. I
searched the archives and other resources from net, i downloaded the
user's manuels of both radios. It seems that satellite has more
specialities but it is unreliable. You have to be lucky if you choose
a satellite800, because, some users say they had unending factory
problems with their product. I live in Istanbul and I will order it
from a friend who lives in US (because it is the half price in US).
But, obviosly, I will have problems with guarentee. So, I need a
stable product. Also, I couldn't decide which radio has better
specialities.
I already have a sony icf 7600D. But, it is not satisfactory for the
purposes i use it. I need a stronger receiver. I want to listen to
the weak local radio stations of central asia and siberia which
usually uses 49 and 60 meter bands. I don't like to listen to the
amateurs. It2s not a pro for me to have a radio with a good ham
receiving abilities.
I know, some of you will advice me table top receivers like icom R75.
But, I don't have more then 500 dollars for this radio.
thank you very much for sparing your valuable time.
regards, oan

You don't have to spend $500 to get a table top radio - especially if
you don't mind buying a used radio.

If you're patient, odds are you'll be able to find a used Drake R8 in
good condition on ebay that's in your price range.

You might also consider a ten-tec rx320 or rx320d. These go for about
$200-225 used, and $325 new. It needs some sort of computer to control
it, but it's a champ when it comes to bang for the buck.

The Lowe HF-150 is a "tabletop/portatop" that is generally available
used in your price range - but the laws of supply and demand are putting
it in the same general price range as the R8.

Likewise, the Palstar R30 might be a radio worth looking at. New ones
are a bit out of your price range, but used ones should be in the ball park.

All of these radios are considerably smaller than the Sat 800.

My experience is most people take good care of table top radios.

Good luck.

You might also want to consider the Super ATS-909 at :

http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php

It's $330 USD.

DeWayne

"oan" wrote in message
om...
Dear friends,
I know you are fed up with these kind of "this or that" questions.
But, if you spare a couple of seconds to answer, I'll be very happy. I
searched the archives and other resources from net, i downloaded the
user's manuels of both radios. It seems that satellite has more
specialities but it is unreliable. You have to be lucky if you choose
a satellite800, because, some users say they had unending factory
problems with their product. I live in Istanbul and I will order it
from a friend who lives in US (because it is the half price in US).
But, obviosly, I will have problems with guarentee. So, I need a
stable product. Also, I couldn't decide which radio has better
specialities.
I already have a sony icf 7600D. But, it is not satisfactory for the
purposes i use it. I need a stronger receiver. I want to listen to
the weak local radio stations of central asia and siberia which
usually uses 49 and 60 meter bands. I don't like to listen to the
amateurs. It2s not a pro for me to have a radio with a good ham
receiving abilities.
I know, some of you will advice me table top receivers like icom R75.
But, I don't have more then 500 dollars for this radio.
thank you very much for sparing your valuable time.
regards, oan

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 06:11:56 GMT, "DeWayne" wrote:

You might also want to consider the Super ATS-909 at :

http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php

It's $330 USD.

DeWayne

"oan" wrote in message
. com...
Dear friends,
I know you are fed up with these kind of "this or that" questions.
But, if you spare a couple of seconds to answer, I'll be very happy. I
searched the archives and other resources from net, i downloaded the
user's manuels of both radios. It seems that satellite has more
specialities but it is unreliable. You have to be lucky if you choose
a satellite800, because, some users say they had unending factory
problems with their product. I live in Istanbul and I will order it
from a friend who lives in US (because it is the half price in US).
But, obviosly, I will have problems with guarentee. So, I need a
stable product. Also, I couldn't decide which radio has better
specialities.
I already have a sony icf 7600D. But, it is not satisfactory for the
purposes i use it. I need a stronger receiver. I want to listen to
the weak local radio stations of central asia and siberia which
usually uses 49 and 60 meter bands. I don't like to listen to the
amateurs. It2s not a pro for me to have a radio with a good ham
receiving abilities.
I know, some of you will advice me table top receivers like icom R75.
But, I don't have more then 500 dollars for this radio.
thank you very much for sparing your valuable time.
regards, oan


No one on the planet pays $500 for an 800. If you're willing to pay
that price you can payPal me the money. I'll sell you as many as
you'd like. It boggles the mind!!