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"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message newsI find the Grundig YB-400 to be especially bad on batteries.. even if
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Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message m... No where did I say how many hours I get with batteries - I merely said the set eats them up quickly. I get at least 20 hours on batteries which, to me, is a waste of money. One expects such a large radio with so much energy-intensive circuitry to suck down the batteries.. most boom-boxes have atrociously short battery life. I find the Grundig YB-400 to be especially bad on batteries.. even if you don't use the radio, the batteries will die within a couple weeks or so.. and if you do use it, you get far less than 20 hours (of course, those are AA, and not D size.. ) That's funny, I've got a YB-550PE that's quite energy-efficient. I only have to change the batteries in this thing about every other month. Jeff Seale Louisville, KY YB-550PE, Satellit 800 |
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Although, you COULD put a 12 volt motorcycle battery into the Sat 800. The handle would probably break when you try to lift it ;) I just run mine off the 'mains'. I put batteries in it though for when bad stuff happens (power outage, severe weather, etc.) Jeff Seale Louisville, KY Satellit 800, YB-550PE |
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"Jeff Seale" wrote in message news:KBaec.118119$K91.332078@attbi_s02... Michael Bryant wrote: From: Jeff Seale I just run mine off the 'mains'. I put batteries in it though for when bad stuff happens (power outage, severe weather, etc.) Jeff Seale Louisville, KY Satellit 800, YB-550PE What do you use your S800 for? Doesn't it have a slight AC hum, particularly through the headphones? When you turn the tuning knob fast, doesn't the noise floor go way up? Does your low battery indicator start flashing about an hour after you put new batteries in? Does your sync start to how after you've left batteries in a while? I've had a lot of radios. I'm just suggesting that compared to the others I've owned, the S800 is disappointing. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) For one thing, I use it for WeFAX downloading. This radio and my PC are a great team. I've had no problems with the headphones or any of the external audio jacks on the radio. Heck, those Grundig headphones are so nice, I use 'em with other stuff in my shack (i.e.: scanner, PC, mini-disc recorder). Like I said earlier, I don't run this thing off the battery very much, only in emergencies, so I haven't had that problem you mentioned just yet. This radio's been good as gold in the month that I've had it. Jeff Seale Louisville, KY Satellit 800, YB-550PE I see you're both in Louisville. One of you needs to lug your S800 to the other, and you guys could try them side-by-side. That would be interesting. -- Stinger |
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Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:
The Grundig Satellit 800, like all SW radios, is not perfect. But at its price level, it is by far the best receiver available. It offers FM and portability which other communication receivers do not. It is a much better radio for program listening than the stock ICOM R75, the SW receiver closest in price, which must be modified by "third-party" companies (or yourself at your own risk) in order to function properly. The sound quality in all modes is very good. That said, it is apparent that the quality-control problems have not been solved, Eton's spokesperson(s) to the contrary. There are two solutions: one is to return (and keep returning) defective units until you get one "right;" you must insist that the company pay for return shipping (inquire about this before the purchase) or buy it locally. (If you purchase one from Universal Radio, they will test it for you on request before shipping; this ensures that your particular unit is satisfactory.) Second is to buy a Drake-refurbished unit as available. Not only is that cheaper, you know it will be "right." Several companies offer this. I have an early-production (May 2000) model which I purchased new from Universal Radio; it arrived in June 2000. It operated satisfactorily until last year when the encoder started to "go." I sent it to Drake who repaired the encoder and totally refurbished the radio, bringing it up to current standards. The price was $109.00 including all shipping and packaging. I thought that, given the amount of use the radio has had, this was quite reasonable, though I feel that the "refurbishing" shouldn't have been necessary. (I had violated one of my own rules: never be the first kid on your block to buy a new product. Let others be the guinea pigs.) I would like to mention the battery "problem." I use the radio almost exclusively on batteries due to local electrical noise prevalent at my location. The solution is to buy NiMH "D" cell batteries (I got mine from C.Crane Company) and use a recharger (I also purchased mine from C.Crane). These batteries last 30 - 40 hours and can be recharged many times. If you buy two sets of betteries, as I did (quite expensive as a one-time purchase, but far cheaper in the long run), you will always have battery power. When I sent my radio to Drake for repairs/refurbishing, I asked that the battery indicator be set for 1.2V rechargeable batteries as opposed to 1.5V alkalines. They did this for me. This radio is superb for program listening and is an excellent DX machine. This past winter I was able to clearly listen to Morocco on 5980 kHz which is right next to the BBC powerhouse. This is very good performance. (The ICOM R75 is a better DX receiver, but not in stock form. Certain factory options must be purchased and, after the required "third-party" modifications, which must be put off until the warranty expires, are effected, the price is much higher than the Grundig. Plus the audio, therefore, the recoverable signal, is not as good. This makes the ICOM much inferior for program listening.) Want better sound? Run the Satellit through your stereo system. The sound will then be as good as your system can make it. I use an AOR WL500 Active Window Loop with my Grundig receiver. It is much superior to the whip, though the whip is satisfactory for outdoor/portable use. On MW I use a Justice antenna indoors and a Select-a-Tenna outdoors. The Satellit is not my main SW radio, but I do listen to it extensively, especially on my deck or in my yard, or for program listening to powerful stations. I also do some Dxing with it, both on SW and MW. It could easily be someone's exclusive SW radio as, considering the price, no apologies for performace are necessary. I am very glad I purchased it. I hope this has been of some help to those owning or contemplating the purchase of a Satellit 800. Lawrence Jeff Seale wrote in message news:5Z2ec.8398$wP1.26196@attbi_s54... Jim Hackett wrote: Although, you COULD put a 12 volt motorcycle battery into the Sat 800. The handle would probably break when you try to lift it ;) I just run mine off the 'mains'. I put batteries in it though for when bad stuff happens (power outage, severe weather, etc.) Jeff Seale Louisville, KY Satellit 800, YB-550PE |
I'm assuming you have first hand experience with an R-75 and are not just
"parroting" what you've read or been told? "Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message m... Dear Ladies and Gentlemen: The Grundig Satellit 800, like all SW radios, is not perfect. But at its price level, it is by far the best receiver available. It offers FM and portability which other communication receivers do not. It is a much better radio for program listening than the stock ICOM R75, the SW receiver closest in price, which must be modified by "third-party" companies (or yourself at your own risk) in order to function properly. {SNIPPED} |
huh ??? hummmmmmmmm .......... I must have missed something ! I drove through Louisville , on my way to Covington , Ky last september and it seemed deshelved , poor ( people didn't have avery high standard of living ) ...and rather smallish. where are all those people, prosperity and growth located at ? I live in one of the smallest metro areas in my own state , a agriculture based town / metro of only 1.3 million people. quite smallish for my state where metro areas can exceed 15 million people. as a matter of fact , I can't even find Louisville on this list of top 48 cities / metros of population http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa122099c.htm this site says that Louisville is the largest city IN KENTUCKY ... and 16th in the USA ....... ( course it is the CC site ah ahaha , possibly stating that from some measurement technicality ) http://www.gotolouisville.com/ hummmmmmmmmmm ......... must be something amiss somewhere. Louisville seemed quite tiny to me ... and rather poor .... ( low cost houses average price of a house in my little town is about $387,000 beat cars most old cars are illegal polluters , out here ...and ... undeveloped metro spaces , lots of oldish urban decay ) ......... I kinda felt sorry for many of the towns I went through and Louisville was definitely one of them. hey what do I know ..??? ...maybe I misjudged the place !!! haaah ah ahaha ha k..................... btw: I was born in Ky in Covington and lived in harlin county when " they shot the sheriff " , got my first radio license there too. the " entire " town of Covington has turned into slums nowadays .... only about a 3rd of it , was slums when I lived there. sad to visit my old blue collar neighborhood now ........ everyone probably moved to Louisville ...... A lot of posters in here over the past few years have been from Louisville. Louisville's growth rate, combined with the recent city-county governmental merger, make us the 16th largest city in the US. Mr. Seale, I went to high school with someone with your name. What part of town do you live in? |
"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message m... Dear Ladies and Gentlemen: The Grundig Satellit 800, like all SW radios, is not perfect. But at its price level, it is by far the best receiver available. It offers FM and portability which other communication receivers do not. It is a much better radio for program listening than the stock ICOM R75, the SW receiver closest in price, which must be modified by "third-party" companies (or yourself at your own risk) in order to function properly. The sound quality in all modes is very good. Thank you for your detailed assessment. I'm not sure about the "much better" than the stock R-75 part, and the "portability" strikes me as a bit of a reach too. |
From: krackula
hummmmmmmmm .......... I must have missed something ! I drove through Louisville , on my way to Covington , Ky last september and it seemed deshelved , poor ( people didn't have avery high standard of living ) ...and rather smallish. where are all those people, prosperity and growth located at ? Sounds like you drove through the old city's West End. You need to visit Louisville's east end. All cities have good and bad sides. Just had a beautiful drive across town today on Louisville's Gene Snyder Freeway out on the edge of Jefferson Co. Nothing like what you describe. Still laughing about being dissed by someone from Covington, KY! ;-)I can't even find Louisville on this list of top 48 cities / metros of population http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa122099c.htm this site says that Louisville is the largest city IN KENTUCKY ... and 16th in the USA ....... ( course it is the CC site ah ahaha , possibly stating that from some measurement technicality ) Yes, the technicality of total population. http://www.gotolouisville.com/ hummmmmmmmmmm ......... must be something amiss somewhere. Yep. You hit the nail on the tip of your pointy head. Louisville seemed quite tiny to me ... and rather poor .... ( low cost houses average price of a house in my little town is about $387,000 beat cars most old cars are illegal polluters , out here ...and ... undeveloped metro spaces , lots of oldish urban decay ) ......... I kinda felt sorry for many of the towns I went through and Louisville was definitely one of them. hey what do I know ..??? ...maybe I misjudged the place !!! haaah ah ahaha ha The part you saw on your trip through to Covington could fit that description. But that's nowhere near most of Louisville. k..................... btw: I was born in Ky in Covington and lived in harlin county when " they shot the sheriff " , got my first radio license there too. the " entire " town of Covington has turned into slums nowadays .... only about a 3rd of it , was slums when I lived there. sad to visit my old blue collar neighborhood now ........ everyone probably moved to Louisville No, just into the other slums of Cincinnati, one of America's most quickly deteriorating cities. Louisville's no Nirvana. Good and bad sides. But it does have the 16th highest population in the US. It's the city's official PR line. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
On 11 Apr 2004 22:12:21 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote: From: krackula hummmmmmmmm .......... I must have missed something ! I drove through Louisville , on my way to Covington , Ky last september and it seemed deshelved , poor ( people didn't have avery high standard of living ) ...and rather smallish. where are all those people, prosperity and growth located at ? Sounds like you drove through the old city's West End. You need to visit Louisville's east end. All cities have good and bad sides. Just had a beautiful drive across town today on Louisville's Gene Snyder Freeway out on the edge of Jefferson Co. Nothing like what you describe. Still laughing about being dissed by someone from Covington, KY! ;-)I can't even find Louisville on this list of top 48 cities / metros of population http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa122099c.htm this site says that Louisville is the largest city IN KENTUCKY ... and 16th in the USA ....... ( course it is the CC site ah ahaha , possibly stating that from some measurement technicality ) Yes, the technicality of total population. http://www.gotolouisville.com/ hummmmmmmmmmm ......... must be something amiss somewhere. Yep. You hit the nail on the tip of your pointy head. Louisville seemed quite tiny to me ... and rather poor .... ( low cost houses average price of a house in my little town is about $387,000 beat cars most old cars are illegal polluters , out here ...and ... undeveloped metro spaces , lots of oldish urban decay ) ......... I kinda felt sorry for many of the towns I went through and Louisville was definitely one of them. hey what do I know ..??? ...maybe I misjudged the place !!! haaah ah ahaha ha The part you saw on your trip through to Covington could fit that description. But that's nowhere near most of Louisville. k..................... btw: I was born in Ky in Covington and lived in harlin county when " they shot the sheriff " , got my first radio license there too. the " entire " town of Covington has turned into slums nowadays .... only about a 3rd of it , was slums when I lived there. sad to visit my old blue collar neighborhood now ........ everyone probably moved to Louisville No, just into the other slums of Cincinnati, one of America's most quickly deteriorating cities. Louisville's no Nirvana. Good and bad sides. But it does have the 16th highest population in the US. It's the city's official PR line. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) Of coures they count cows, pigs, and chickens there too! Tracy |
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On 11 Apr 2004 22:36:49 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote: From: Tracy Fort Of coures they count cows, pigs, and chickens there too! Don't get us confused with Macon, GA. Do they still have those Sunday morning cockfights in that open field across from Mercer University? Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) That's right! And we kicked Louisville's ass like 13 to 0 last night! It was great!!! Tracy |
For some reason, Louisville has always been a good radio town. Back in the
60s and 70s, no medium market town in the US had better radio stations than Louisville. WAKY (790) and WKLO (1080) were two of the best anywhere. I know, it wasn't about the Satellit 800, but at least I got radio back into the discussion. |
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Michael Bryant wrote: From: Tracy Fort Don't get us confused with Macon, GA. Do they still have those Sunday morning cockfights in that open field across from Mercer University? That's right! And we kicked Louisville's ass like 13 to 0 last night! It was great!!! In what? Cockfighting?!? Like i'm supposed to care about some victory over one of UofL's sports teams? You are pretty pathetic! And you are damn pathetic, nothing pretty about it! |
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Michael Bryant wrote: From: "Corbin Ray" For some reason, Louisville has always been a good radio town. Back in the 60s and 70s, no medium market town in the US had better radio stations than Louisville. WAKY (790) and WKLO (1080) were two of the best anywhere. Thanks for that memory, Ray. I grew up tuned to those very stations. Their absence is sorely missed! Yours won't be! |
On 11 Apr 2004 22:54:32 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote: From: Tracy Fort Don't get us confused with Macon, GA. Do they still have those Sunday morning cockfights in that open field across from Mercer University? That's right! And we kicked Louisville's ass like 13 to 0 last night! It was great!!! In what? Cockfighting?!? Like i'm supposed to care about some victory over one of UofL's sports teams? You are pretty pathetic! Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) That's right! Cockfighting! You have a comprehension problem? That seems to be your word of the day. Did you learn it at Sunday school? Tracy |
Dear Jim,
I have a friend who owns one and I have heard it quite a bit. His is modified "to the teeth" by ICOM, Kiwa and others; it's not bad, yet I would still not buy one. Though more sensitive, I believe that overall, in terms of "what you hear," it is inferior, at least to my ears, to the Satellit 800, which I brought over to his house once for side-by-side comparison. (Formal "true" A/B comparisons are not possible as he has only one antenna connection, so the antenna must be disconnected from one receiver and then hooked to the other. It doesn't take long, but it's not true A/B.) That evening there was nothing heard on the ICOM that could not also be heard on the Grundig and the Grundig sounded much better (he uses a Radio Shack external speaker; I used the Grundig's speaker). His radio cost much more than mine. My friend likes his ICOM. Lawrence "Jim Hackett" wrote in message link.net... I'm assuming you have first hand experience with an R-75 and are not just "parroting" what you've read or been told? "Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message m... Dear Ladies and Gentlemen: The Grundig Satellit 800, like all SW radios, is not perfect. But at its price level, it is by far the best receiver available. It offers FM and portability which other communication receivers do not. It is a much better radio for program listening than the stock ICOM R75, the SW receiver closest in price, which must be modified by "third-party" companies (or yourself at your own risk) in order to function properly. {SNIPPED} |
"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... Dear Jim, I have a friend who owns one and I have heard it quite a bit. His is modified "to the teeth" by ICOM, Kiwa and others; it's not bad, yet I would still not buy one. Though more sensitive, I believe that overall, in terms of "what you hear," it is inferior, at least to my ears, to the Satellit 800, which I brought over to his house once for side-by-side comparison. (Formal "true" A/B comparisons are not possible as he has only one antenna connection, so the antenna must be disconnected from one receiver and then hooked to the other. It doesn't take long, but it's not true A/B.) That evening there was nothing heard on the ICOM that could not also be heard on the Grundig and the Grundig sounded much better (he uses a Radio Shack external speaker; I used the Grundig's speaker). His radio cost much more than mine. My friend likes his ICOM. I feel that most receiver preferences are subjective. Comes down not to specs, or even to features, but to what the listener personally likes. My favorite portable radio of all time is a Grundig Transistor 1000. It has LW/MW/SW1(49m Europa band)/SW2 (6-16 MHz)/FM. It has no SSB capabilities at all. It is, however, an outstanding program listening radio, with excellent sensitivity and selectivity. Not as selective, perhaps, as something with a sharp ceramic filter, but I have no trouble separating stations on it. It was made back when Grundig was at the top of it's form, sounds fantastic, and is quite solidly built. It's no $700 radio, but it does everything important to me in a SW receiver... (if I want to hear SSB signals, I'll fire up my ham rig.. ) |
I see. I personally own both and in MY opinion, the sat-800 is nowhere near
the performer the STOCK R-75 is. It does "sound" better [.] The R-75 will hear things the 800 NEVER could. I could go on but you've obviously made up your mind and I hope your happy with your Sat800. I am. It makes a dandy clock-radio... "Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... Dear Jim, I have a friend who owns one... [SNIPPED] |
He doesn't need to own both radios to evaluate them. You conveniently
snipped the part where he made a direct comparison using the same antenna and found that the 800 could hear anything the R75 was receiving and with better audio. He made up his mind based on real world evidence. That's the best anyone can do. Jim Hackett wrote: I see. I personally own both and in MY opinion, the sat-800 is nowhere near the performer the STOCK R-75 is. It does "sound" better [.] The R-75 will hear things the 800 NEVER could. I could go on but you've obviously made up your mind and I hope your happy with your Sat800. I am. It makes a dandy clock-radio... "Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... Dear Jim, I have a friend who owns one... [SNIPPED] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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longwave wrote: He doesn't need to own both radios to evaluate them. You conveniently snipped the part where he made a direct comparison using the same antenna and found that the 800 could hear anything the R75 was receiving and with better audio. He made up his mind based on real world evidence. That's the best anyone can do. Indeed. If anyone cares, I will be taking delivery of a new 800 and a little used 700 this week (probably Tuesday, 4/13). I will be doing extensive comparisons with my other radios, and will be happy to report my findings. Dan Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440, Grundig S650, S700, S800, YB400 Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102 Hallicraters S-120 (1962) Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937) E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936) |
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ha hah ah aha ha ......... probably a LOT better than poor old Covington ......which has gone down hill so much. I liked the nice river area development in Louisville ... where I live would be a desert if it wasn't for irrigation. pretty green hardwood trees out there too ...... !!! oddly enough ( as if there wasn't enough odd things about California to start with ) ...." everything " here ... all the plant life , for the most part , is man made and artificial. nothing to do with the natural local or terrain in any natural way. sure it's fragrant flowering and green , year around .. and don't get me wrong , thats nice too ..... BUT ...it's ALL artificial, and unnatural ..kinda like Disney Land or something. those beautiful hardwood forests and natural surroundings are quite nice and feels good after so much stuff like we live in , out here. ( liked the vibrant and LOUD at night insect life too ..out here we nuked everything for the farmers and have nothing like that , it adds a lot to the pleasant natural ambiance ) k.................... On 11 Apr 2004 22:12:21 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote: From: krackula hummmmmmmmm .......... I must have missed something ! I drove through Louisville , on my way to Covington , Ky last september and it seemed deshelved , poor ( people didn't have avery high standard of living ) ...and rather smallish. where are all those people, prosperity and growth located at ? Sounds like you drove through the old city's West End. You need to visit Louisville's east end. All cities have good and bad sides. Just had a beautiful drive across town today on Louisville's Gene Snyder Freeway out on the edge of Jefferson Co. Nothing like what you describe. Still laughing about being dissed by someone from Covington, KY! ;-)I can't even find Louisville on this list of top 48 cities / metros of population http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa122099c.htm this site says that Louisville is the largest city IN KENTUCKY ... and 16th in the USA ....... ( course it is the CC site ah ahaha , possibly stating that from some measurement technicality ) Yes, the technicality of total population. http://www.gotolouisville.com/ hummmmmmmmmmm ......... must be something amiss somewhere. Yep. You hit the nail on the tip of your pointy head. Louisville seemed quite tiny to me ... and rather poor .... ( low cost houses average price of a house in my little town is about $387,000 beat cars most old cars are illegal polluters , out here ...and ... undeveloped metro spaces , lots of oldish urban decay ) ......... I kinda felt sorry for many of the towns I went through and Louisville was definitely one of them. hey what do I know ..??? ...maybe I misjudged the place !!! haaah ah ahaha ha The part you saw on your trip through to Covington could fit that description. But that's nowhere near most of Louisville. k..................... btw: I was born in Ky in Covington and lived in harlin county when " they shot the sheriff " , got my first radio license there too. the " entire " town of Covington has turned into slums nowadays .... only about a 3rd of it , was slums when I lived there. sad to visit my old blue collar neighborhood now ........ everyone probably moved to Louisville No, just into the other slums of Cincinnati, one of America's most quickly deteriorating cities. Louisville's no Nirvana. Good and bad sides. But it does have the 16th highest population in the US. It's the city's official PR line. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
I'd appreciate your opinion, Dan.
-- Stinger "Dan" wrote in message ... In article , longwave wrote: He doesn't need to own both radios to evaluate them. You conveniently snipped the part where he made a direct comparison using the same antenna and found that the 800 could hear anything the R75 was receiving and with better audio. He made up his mind based on real world evidence. That's the best anyone can do. Indeed. If anyone cares, I will be taking delivery of a new 800 and a little used 700 this week (probably Tuesday, 4/13). I will be doing extensive comparisons with my other radios, and will be happy to report my findings. Dan Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440, Grundig S650, S700, S800, YB400 Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102 Hallicraters S-120 (1962) Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937) E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936) |
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I've had them side by side on the same antenna and that is simply not true.
I am done and will step away from the podium... "longwave" wrote in message ... He doesn't need to own both radios to evaluate them. You conveniently snipped the part where he made a direct comparison using the same antenna and found that the 800 could hear anything the R75 was receiving and with better audio. He made up his mind based on real world evidence. That's the best anyone can do. Jim Hackett wrote: I see. I personally own both and in MY opinion, the sat-800 is nowhere near the performer the STOCK R-75 is. It does "sound" better [.] The R-75 will hear things the 800 NEVER could. I could go on but you've obviously made up your mind and I hope your happy with your Sat800. I am. It makes a dandy clock-radio... "Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... Dear Jim, I have a friend who owns one... [SNIPPED] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
In article ,
Dan wrote: In article , longwave wrote: He doesn't need to own both radios to evaluate them. You conveniently snipped the part where he made a direct comparison using the same antenna and found that the 800 could hear anything the R75 was receiving and with better audio. He made up his mind based on real world evidence. That's the best anyone can do. Indeed. If anyone cares, I will be taking delivery of a new 800 and a little used 700 this week (probably Tuesday, 4/13). I will be doing extensive comparisons with my other radios, and will be happy to report my findings. What I find interesting is in another thread someone compared his $60 dollar Chinese portable to his IC-R75 and found that it heard everything the IC-R75 did. I've done some thinking on this "one radio hears a station and the other didn't" situation when the sensitivity of the radios are within a few dBm of each other. Normally it would not be reasonable to expect this result. I think the reason has to do with the radios input impedance changing over frequency and not looking like a resistive load. With an antenna not matched well on one end of a coax and the radio not being a good match on some frequencies on the other end results can be unpredictable with resonances at different frequencies for the different radios. This will lead to unpredictable results. In order to flatten out the response of the antenna / coax an attenuator could be used absorb the reflections in the antenna system. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Michael Bryant wrote: From: krackula ha hah ah aha ha ......... probably a LOT better than poor old Covington ......which has gone down hill so much. I liked the nice river area development in Louisville ... where I live would be a desert if it wasn't for irrigation. Yep. I moved back to Kentucky in Dec 2001 after spending 20 years outside the state, the last 14 in northern Utah. So how long ago was it then that you attended Wayne State? (And lived in the slums of Detroit). If it was prior to the 14 years you lived in Utah then you certainly knew long before 2001 that you had not received the PhD. Hmmmmmmmmmmm... |
Dear Ms. Dyer,
You're absolutely right about preferences for radios (and other possessions) really being subjective. (My two favorite portables are a Hitachi KH-1108S [the South African version - don't ask; I've never been to South Africa] which I bought back in 1969 and the Radio Shack DX-375. Both are poor compared to what is available, but I still really like using them [and I own many other portables].) Re-reading my first posting I see I was unduly harsh on the ICOM IC-R75 which, after all, is an excellent receiver and, as far as I know, is properly assembled of quality parts (no q.c. problems). This is very important and is a major problem with the Satellit. What I was really trying to do was to offer people who aren't sure about purchasing a Satellit some information based on my own experience. When I sent my unit to Drake, I asked the technician to write the measured sensitivity of my unit on my invoice; he did so, saying that my unit measured 0.4 mcv for 10 db S/N on SSB. That's not bad for a $500.00 receiver considering the other facilities offered for "digging out" signals. I personally just feel that at $500.00 the Grundig Satellit 800 is the best receiver available at the price at this time. The q.c. problems can be ameliorated with careful attention when purchasing. I don't wish to "plug" a company on this newsgroup, but I have had very good luck with Universal. They are helpful and informative. Their prices are as good as any. They will test a piece of equipment for you before shipment if you ask. (I haven't used Grove for major purchases, but I exppect they would do the same.) As I said in my first sentence on my first posting, the Satellit, like all radios (and I don't care the price), is not perfect. But if one is contemplating purchase, I think that it is a fine receiver with good sensitivity, good facilities, and good sound. If my comments about the ICOM offended anyone, I apologize sincerely. Lawrence "Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message ... "Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... Dear Jim, I have a friend who owns one and I have heard it quite a bit. His is modified "to the teeth" by ICOM, Kiwa and others; it's not bad, yet I would still not buy one. Though more sensitive, I believe that overall, in terms of "what you hear," it is inferior, at least to my ears, to the Satellit 800, which I brought over to his house once for side-by-side comparison. (Formal "true" A/B comparisons are not possible as he has only one antenna connection, so the antenna must be disconnected from one receiver and then hooked to the other. It doesn't take long, but it's not true A/B.) That evening there was nothing heard on the ICOM that could not also be heard on the Grundig and the Grundig sounded much better (he uses a Radio Shack external speaker; I used the Grundig's speaker). His radio cost much more than mine. My friend likes his ICOM. I feel that most receiver preferences are subjective. Comes down not to specs, or even to features, but to what the listener personally likes. My favorite portable radio of all time is a Grundig Transistor 1000. It has LW/MW/SW1(49m Europa band)/SW2 (6-16 MHz)/FM. It has no SSB capabilities at all. It is, however, an outstanding program listening radio, with excellent sensitivity and selectivity. Not as selective, perhaps, as something with a sharp ceramic filter, but I have no trouble separating stations on it. It was made back when Grundig was at the top of it's form, sounds fantastic, and is quite solidly built. It's no $700 radio, but it does everything important to me in a SW receiver... (if I want to hear SSB signals, I'll fire up my ham rig.. ) |
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Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV So how long ago was it then that you attended Wayne State? (And lived in the slums of Detroit). If it was prior to the 14 years you lived in Utah then you certainly knew long before 2001 that you had not received the PhD. Duh. It's obvious that you 1.) Understand little about how one works toward a PhD and that 2.) You are bored and looking to keep a fight going. Why don't you take another drive to Ohio? It's obvious that you need something besides your Drake to keep you occupied. Get a life, Steve. Get a PhD Fat Boy... You gotta remember that YOU were the one who lied about having one in the first place! |
Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV So how long ago was it then that you attended Wayne State? (And lived in the slums of Detroit). If it was prior to the 14 years you lived in Utah then you certainly knew long before 2001 that you had not received the PhD. Duh. It's obvious that you 1.) Understand little about how one works toward a PhD and that 2.) You are bored and looking to keep a fight going. You claimed you did your PhD work at Wayne State... Why don't you take another drive to Ohio? I may just do that Fat Boy! It's obvious that you need something besides your Drake to keep you occupied. Drake's Fat Boy, Drake's... plural... pay attention! If you can. Get a life, Steve. Like I stated before... try and get that PhD! |
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