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May 11th 04, 06:21 AM
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-=jd=- wrote:
On Mon 10 May 2004 02:09:56p, m II wrote in message news:UzPnc.43821$U75.21266@edtnps89: -=jd=- wrote: What does any of that have to do with your personal choice to refuse to condemn the muslims as well for their attrocities? Why does which "Side" they were on have any bearing on your *selective* condemnation of attrocities? Now you have demonstrated you are a hypocrite on a whole new level! Good-Gravy Man! When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is to stop digging! You are the only one who can be perceived as "defending" attrocities by your selective condemnation that refuses to condemn the Chechen muslims for their barbarous acts. I'm afraid I won't be able to allow you to spin your way out of this one. You still remain steadfast in your failure to also condemn the muslims in Chechnya for their attrocities. You still fail to have a valid point of reference when you freely choose to *selectively* condemn attrocities. It's *EASY* to condemn the Islamic types who commit these atrocities. I have no love for Islam per se. In certain circles, the tenets of Islam have caused what can best be described as a mental illness, of the same variety heard on nut case shortwave 'religious' broacdasts. Lunacy is lunacy and it doesn't respect borders or political camps. I should have been clearer in my rants, as you seem to have mistaken my postings as a defense. It's not now or ever has been a defense. What I've been trying to show, is that there *is* a lead up to what these people do. In the vast majority of cases, whether it's a real or perceived wrong, it appears that REVENGE is a major cause of the action. Look at the insanity in Palestine or, previously, in the Northern part of Ireland. It never ends and it's always 'the other side' that's a criminal. Look at Custer and the Little Big Horn. Custer may well have been a mental case who had NO business being in the Military. Seen in the retrospect of what the westward moving settlers had already done to the native population, ask yourself this. Was Custer a hero or *******? Did the 'natives' act in a spontaneous manner or did something lead them to the events? The hard core perverts will be by in a minute to tell us that every 'bloody indian' should have been exterminated BEFORE the troubles started. That opinion is the one I am against, not yours, where all atrocities are condemned. I have no idea what the Israeli-Pallie, Custer, American Indians have to do with what started this sub-discussion: you condemning Russians for killing some livestock, but not having a clue as to the extent of the attrocities of the Chechen muslim combatants and veritibly ignoring it - then going on to resist documented evidence that would make self-evident the selective spin you were seemingly applying: "The Russains are animals to the Chechens!" Depending on the observer, that could certainly be quite relative. If you want to bring grneral provocation and retaliation into the mix, the muslims are cast in a far harsher light. Unless you feel destroying some livestock by the Russians equates to slow, casual beheading of Russian officers, or the removal of eyes prior to killing a Russian. What you need to do is resist your bias and not try to explain away *any* attrocity based on provocation or retaliation. That kind of silliness could lead to someone ludicrously claiming: "...MII's assertion may provide justification for the treatment of those Abu Ghraib POWs as retaliation for those contractors being hacked-up and hung on display!" There is no justification. Not all Russians, Muslims, Americans, are to be condemned based on the actions of a few -and- those few are to be resoundingly condemned for their actions. This you most certainly know, but your insatiable liberal desire to paint with the broadest of brushes, simply for self-serving emotional and dramatic effect with total disregard for the actual facts is patently obvious. I don't normally care about petty spin, but when it is applied against something as dead-serious as sub-human attrocities simply for emotional effect to further someone's twisted political agenda, I get to call "Bull****". You know far better - shame on you! -=jd=- good grief |
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