MII,

Gee Wow ! - Here We Go Off the Deep End Again - Oh Canada )

I simply present 'my view points' on being a Good Citizen and
Helping People or Taking Action when an Emergency Happens.

MII - You however, seem to have a real problem with the concept
of 'acting responsible' as a Good Citizen.

MII - Lets Examine Your Warpped 'sense' of "Social Values":

* Not one of their examples applies to spying for the secret police.
MII - The FBI is NOT a 'secret police' Agency.
? Did I ever mention 'spying' simply reporting what you might
see as a Good Citizen.

* By equating these more or less common sense actions to 'homeland
security' they try to make the undefendable more palatable.
MII - Homeland Security starts with Hometown Security and extends
to the State and the Nation. Simply be a Good Citizen with in
your Community and having a 'relationship' with your Neighbors.
? "Undefendable" to you acting 'responsible' and being a Good
Citizenship is undefendable.

* They're all non-applicable as far as using civilians to spy
on each other is concerned.
MII - Ther your go again with Spying, vice Good Citizenship
which is reporting a Crime if an when you see it happening.
! You have a real "Fixation" on Spying MII !

* This is an old attempt at distraction from the main argument.
MII - Since I made the original Posting and then Followed-Up
with a Defense of that Posting. I "Define-the-Argument" and
what your have 'presented' is the "Distraction".
Think about it MII, Four Positive items to explore and One item
that could be view as either Positive and Negative. You only
choise the Last Item and ONLY Choise to view it as Negative.
MII - You Failed the Holtzman Ink Blot Test and the Rorschach
Test of: Brotherly Love for All, Honest Concern for your
Neighbors, Working to Improve Your Community, and just being a
Good Citizen.

* It's like saying: "If you don't believe in God, you worship the devil"
MII - These are your words NOT mine.
- To me they are an Ink Blot Test of your Mind's Eye.
- Everything is Black and White.

* It's like saying: "Childless couples are unnatural perverts"
MII - These are your words NOT mine.
- To me they are an Ink Blot Test of your Mind's Eye.
- Wow you condem people so easily.

* It's like saying: "Jews sell atomic secrets to the highest bidder"
MII - These are your words NOT mine.
- To me they are an Ink Blot Test of your Mind's Eye.
- Again a "Fixation" with JEWS.
- Note the Quote from 'adolph hitler' invoking his name.

* By your reasoning, wee should be keeping a very close eye on
atheists, childless couples and Jews.
MII - My Reasoning has been stated in the 'original' Posting
and then Followed-Up with a Defense of that Posting. The above
and what is below are your points and are reflective of your
'skewed' Mentality NOT mine.
- My Reasoning are my stated reasons: Brotherly Love for All,
Honest Concern for your Neighbors, Working to Improve Your
Community, and just being a Good Citizen.
- Your are the One who seems to be "Fixated" on 'keeping a very
close eye' {spying} on: atheists, childless couples and Jews.

* There are non so blind as those who will not see.
MII - Heed your own words and Open Up Your Eyes.
- I was Lost and Now I am Found.
- freedom, Freedom. FREEDOM !

* it looks to me as though you've been brainwashed into
thinking that spying on your neighbours is a GOOD thing.
MII - I have never Advocated or Stated that One should "SPY"
on their Neighbors or anyone else.
- Once again we see that you are "Fixated" on Spying.
- What I do Advocate: Brotherly Love for All, Honest Concern
for your Neighbors; Working to Improve Your Community, and
just being a Good Citizen.

* Sad..
MII - My Canadian Brother - Yes You are Sad.
- But MII, I have Hope for You and will Pray for You.
- After All, What Else should a Good Citizen Do )

* Closing with a Quote from 'adolph hitler' invoking his name.
MII - Are you "Fixated" on 'adolph hitler' and the NAZIs ?
? Again MII where is your Mind ?
- As for me, I Believe in America and I Believe in Me.
- For I Am An American !

MII - I will close with this Quote:
"Let us, therefore, in training our Scouts, keep their higher
aims in the forefront, not let ourselves get too absorbed in
the steps. Don't let the technical outweigh the moral. Field
efficiency, camping, hiking, good turns, are all means, not
the end. The End is "Character with a Purpose", and that Purpose,
that the Next Generation may be Sane in an insane world, and
Develop the Highest Realization of Service. Active Service of
Love, and Duty to God and Neighbor."
- Lord Baden Powell {Founder of the Boy Scouts}


MII - After all is said and done - I am just an 'old' Boy Scout
who On His Honor Believes in: Being Prepared and Doing a
Good Turn Daily for God and Country ~ RHF
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ABOUT THE BOY SCOUTS:
http://www.scouting.org/nav/enter.jsp?s=mc&c=fs
* On my honor I will do my best:
- To Do My Duty to God and My Country and to Obey the Scout Law
- To Help other people at all times
- To Keep Myself Physically Strong, Mentally Awake, and Morally Straight.
* Scout Law - A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly,
Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and
Reverent.
* Motto - Be Prepared
* Slogan - Do a Good Turn Daily
* By Living According to the Scout Oath and Law, you are adding
your bit to the fires of Good Citizenship and World Brotherhood.
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RHF wrote:
MII,

YOUR CHOICES AND PRE-DISPOSITIONS:
(OT) - We all have a role in Hometown
(Homeland) Security and a Better America
1) USA "Citizen Corps"
2) USA "Freedom Corps"
3) "Learn & Serve" America
4) "Senior Corps" for America
5) FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}


? SO WHERE DID YOU COME OUT ?

* Holtzman Ink Blot Test
http://www.ehendrick.org/healthy/000679.htm

* The Rorschach Test
http://www.medical-library.org/journals/mddx/Rorshach/
http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/rorschach.htm

FWIW: There were four 'positive' Building a "Better America"
Things-to-Explore; and one that some warped individuals with a
certain Slanted / Political / Perspective/ may view a being "Negative".

? Which One(s) did you Choose ?
- and -
? What is there in You ? - That "Made" You Choose It ?

Concerning an Individuals "Attitude" about:
5) FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}

As a Good Citizen when you see your Neighbors House Catch Fi
- Do You Call the Fire Department or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see an Automobile Accident with Injured People:
- Do You Call the Police Department or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see a Lost Child or Run-Away Pet:
- Do You Stop and Help Them and then Call for Help or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see an Elderly Person Being Robbed:
- Do You Call the Police Department or Dial 911 ?

Are You 'simply' Motivated by being a Responsible Good Citizen ?
Or - Are You Living in Fear of "What the Government Will Do To You ?"

The 'problem' is NOT the FBI "Tips" Program; for it has Always Existed.
[ The Problem lays between Your Ears and the Way You Think. ]

Not one of their examples applies to spying for the secret police.
By equating these more or less common sense actions to 'homeland
security' they try to make the undefendable more palatable
They're all non-applicable as far as using civilians to spy on each
other is concerned.

This is an old attempt at distraction from the main argument.

It's like saying:

"If you don't believe in God, you worship the devil"
or
"Childless couples are unnatural perverts"
or
"Jews sell atomic secrets to the highest bidder"

By your reasoning, wee should be keeping a very close eye on
atheists, childless couples and Jews.


There are non so blind as those who will not see..it looks to me as
though you've been brainwashed into thinking that spying on your
neighbours is a GOOD thing. Sad..

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"The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training
of the individual, but in calling the masses' attention to certain
facts, processes, necessities, etc., whose significance is thus for
the first time placed within their field of vision.

All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be
adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is
addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to
reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But
if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence
a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our
public, and too much caution cannot be extended in this direction."

adolph hitler

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mike