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Old June 3rd 04, 11:22 PM
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06/03/04 @ 21:50 UTC

Done with R-75 and 200ft "FRANKENSTEIN"

7190; In am mode there is moderate noise and fade out. There is also a
serious heterodyne or some kind of IF causing a groan/whistle on the usb.
Signal from a low of s-3 to a high of s-8 in am. LSB is nice and clear.
Peak modulation brings it up to a max of s-6 in LSB. It is still a bit
noisy but some nr helps enough to make it practical to listen to in lsb.

7225: Solid in am mode and a fair bit cleaner then the 7190 signal. In am a
low of s-6 to a height of s-8. Good in both lsb and usb. In ssb at peak
modulation it is also a max of s-6.

I tried my PL-550 and my KA-1102 on both signals using the Tecsun external
reel antenna and found that neither radio is doing a good job of dealing
with it. Both are nothing but LOTS of noise on 7190. On 7225, you can hear
it on both radios, but it is noisy as all get out. Usually, I find that my
portables can hear most of what my R-75 can hear, but it this case, they
cant.

Clearly, 7190 has problems making it here clearly for one reason or another
compared to 7225 that is doing well on the R-75. Despite that though, in
ssb on the R-75, even though 7190 is more noisy, both come in at a max of
s-6 when they are in ssb.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: KA-1101,KA-1102,PL-550,
KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com


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Old June 3rd 04, 11:33 PM
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Currently both frequencies here are S9 to 10 over at 2230.

Michael wrote:

06/03/04 @ 21:50 UTC

Done with R-75 and 200ft "FRANKENSTEIN"

7190; In am mode there is moderate noise and fade out. There is also a
serious heterodyne or some kind of IF causing a groan/whistle on the usb.
Signal from a low of s-3 to a high of s-8 in am. LSB is nice and clear.
Peak modulation brings it up to a max of s-6 in LSB. It is still a bit
noisy but some nr helps enough to make it practical to listen to in lsb.

7225: Solid in am mode and a fair bit cleaner then the 7190 signal. In am a
low of s-6 to a height of s-8. Good in both lsb and usb. In ssb at peak
modulation it is also a max of s-6.

I tried my PL-550 and my KA-1102 on both signals using the Tecsun external
reel antenna and found that neither radio is doing a good job of dealing
with it. Both are nothing but LOTS of noise on 7190. On 7225, you can hear
it on both radios, but it is noisy as all get out. Usually, I find that my
portables can hear most of what my R-75 can hear, but it this case, they
cant.

Clearly, 7190 has problems making it here clearly for one reason or another
compared to 7225 that is doing well on the R-75. Despite that though, in
ssb on the R-75, even though 7190 is more noisy, both come in at a max of
s-6 when they are in ssb.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: KA-1101,KA-1102,PL-550,
KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com


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Old June 3rd 04, 11:37 PM
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dxAce wrote:

Currently both frequencies here are S9 to 10 over at 2230.


And I just tried them with a 10' wire inside the aluminium sided shack and get
them both at about S6.

Still a decent signal, listening in AM with the 6 kHz filter on the R8.



Michael wrote:

06/03/04 @ 21:50 UTC

Done with R-75 and 200ft "FRANKENSTEIN"

7190; In am mode there is moderate noise and fade out. There is also a
serious heterodyne or some kind of IF causing a groan/whistle on the usb.
Signal from a low of s-3 to a high of s-8 in am. LSB is nice and clear.
Peak modulation brings it up to a max of s-6 in LSB. It is still a bit
noisy but some nr helps enough to make it practical to listen to in lsb.

7225: Solid in am mode and a fair bit cleaner then the 7190 signal. In am a
low of s-6 to a height of s-8. Good in both lsb and usb. In ssb at peak
modulation it is also a max of s-6.

I tried my PL-550 and my KA-1102 on both signals using the Tecsun external
reel antenna and found that neither radio is doing a good job of dealing
with it. Both are nothing but LOTS of noise on 7190. On 7225, you can hear
it on both radios, but it is noisy as all get out. Usually, I find that my
portables can hear most of what my R-75 can hear, but it this case, they
cant.

Clearly, 7190 has problems making it here clearly for one reason or another
compared to 7225 that is doing well on the R-75. Despite that though, in
ssb on the R-75, even though 7190 is more noisy, both come in at a max of
s-6 when they are in ssb.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: KA-1101,KA-1102,PL-550,
KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com


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Old June 4th 04, 02:28 AM
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I wonder if it may be useful to do some comparisons on some other signal
arriving from different directions/frequencies?

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



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Old June 4th 04, 02:37 AM
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"dxAce" wrote in message
...
I wonder if it may be useful to do some comparisons on some other signal
arriving from different directions/frequencies?


Sounds like a good idea... Any recommendations on what/when to check ???
I'll post a reception report.

Michael




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Old June 4th 04, 02:40 AM
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Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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I wonder if it may be useful to do some comparisons on some other signal
arriving from different directions/frequencies?


Sounds like a good idea... Any recommendations on what/when to check ???
I'll post a reception report.


I'll leave it up to you. Tonight or tomorrow.


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Old June 4th 04, 03:05 AM
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"dxAce" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
I wonder if it may be useful to do some comparisons on some other

signal
arriving from different directions/frequencies?


Sounds like a good idea... Any recommendations on what/when to check

???
I'll post a reception report.


I'll leave it up to you. Tonight or tomorrow.


Tomorrow night would be good. We can pick a time for me to start. Either 2
or 3 UTC. What ever is best for you. What I'll do is take the first 30
minutes of the hour and go through either the 31,41 or 49 meter bands. I'll
post a reception log by half way through the hour. This way you'll have
time to check out my report and compare how your receiving them before the
one hour time slot is more then half way over and the show is off the air.

Your pick on either 2 or 3 UTC. Your pick on either 31, 41 or 49 meter
band.

Michael



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Old June 4th 04, 03:11 AM
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Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
I wonder if it may be useful to do some comparisons on some other

signal
arriving from different directions/frequencies?


Sounds like a good idea... Any recommendations on what/when to check

???
I'll post a reception report.


I'll leave it up to you. Tonight or tomorrow.


Tomorrow night would be good. We can pick a time for me to start. Either 2
or 3 UTC. What ever is best for you. What I'll do is take the first 30
minutes of the hour and go through either the 31,41 or 49 meter bands. I'll
post a reception log by half way through the hour. This way you'll have
time to check out my report and compare how your receiving them before the
one hour time slot is more then half way over and the show is off the air.

Your pick on either 2 or 3 UTC. Your pick on either 31, 41 or 49 meter
band.


Let's do 2 UTC and 31 meter band.

We can always check the others later on.

Or we could select various targets, and do them in real time together.

Either way, it might be interesting.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm


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Old June 4th 04, 05:39 AM
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"Michael" wrote:

06/03/04 @ 21:50 UTC

Done with R-75 and 200ft "FRANKENSTEIN"

7190; In am mode there is moderate noise and fade out. There is also a
serious heterodyne or some kind of IF causing a groan/whistle on the usb.
Signal from a low of s-3 to a high of s-8 in am. LSB is nice and clear.
Peak modulation brings it up to a max of s-6 in LSB. It is still a bit
noisy but some nr helps enough to make it practical to listen to in lsb.

7225: Solid in am mode and a fair bit cleaner then the 7190 signal. In am a
low of s-6 to a height of s-8. Good in both lsb and usb. In ssb at peak
modulation it is also a max of s-6.

I tried my PL-550 and my KA-1102 on both signals using the Tecsun external
reel antenna and found that neither radio is doing a good job of dealing
with it. Both are nothing but LOTS of noise on 7190. On 7225, you can hear
it on both radios, but it is noisy as all get out. Usually, I find that my
portables can hear most of what my R-75 can hear, but it this case, they
cant.

Clearly, 7190 has problems making it here clearly for one reason or another
compared to 7225 that is doing well on the R-75. Despite that though, in
ssb on the R-75, even though 7190 is more noisy, both come in at a max of
s-6 when they are in ssb.


Before you make that assumption about 7190 you should consider making a
dipole cut for 7190.

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Telamon
Ventura, California
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Old June 4th 04, 10:39 PM
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"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Michael" wrote:

06/03/04 @ 21:50 UTC

Done with R-75 and 200ft "FRANKENSTEIN"

7190; In am mode there is moderate noise and fade out. There is also a
serious heterodyne or some kind of IF causing a groan/whistle on the

usb.
Signal from a low of s-3 to a high of s-8 in am. LSB is nice and

clear.
Peak modulation brings it up to a max of s-6 in LSB. It is still a bit
noisy but some nr helps enough to make it practical to listen to in lsb.

7225: Solid in am mode and a fair bit cleaner then the 7190 signal. In

am a
low of s-6 to a height of s-8. Good in both lsb and usb. In ssb at peak
modulation it is also a max of s-6.

I tried my PL-550 and my KA-1102 on both signals using the Tecsun

external
reel antenna and found that neither radio is doing a good job of dealing
with it. Both are nothing but LOTS of noise on 7190. On 7225, you can

hear
it on both radios, but it is noisy as all get out. Usually, I find

that my
portables can hear most of what my R-75 can hear, but it this case, they
cant.

Clearly, 7190 has problems making it here clearly for one reason or

another
compared to 7225 that is doing well on the R-75. Despite that though,

in
ssb on the R-75, even though 7190 is more noisy, both come in at a max

of
s-6 when they are in ssb.


Before you make that assumption about 7190 you should consider making a
dipole cut for 7190.


I found that 7190 was also poor on my portables compared to 7225.
Practically speaking, 7190 was not as effective to my location at that time.
It wasn't the antennas, it wasn't the radio. Keep in mind that I have a
preselector between my R-75 and both my antennas and my PL-500 has a built
in antenna tuner.

Michael





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