In article , John Barnard
wrote:

If you ever get the chance see "Good-bye, Lenin". It's a very good movie
concerning the fall of communism in East Germany.

By all means continue getting your perspective from the movies while the
rest of us stick to reality.

The following from

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissin...43&sid=4983826

FORMER SOLIDARITY LEADER AND POLISH PRESIDENT LECH WALESA

"When I heard of President Reagan's death, as a Christian I prayed for
him. As a politician I recalled the important role he had played in
the overthrow of world communism.

"Somewhere at the turn of the 1980s a number of politicians and others
at different points on the globe began moving towards a single goal:
the overthrow of the murderous communist system that had the blood of
200 million people on its hands. Reagan was one of the world leaders
who made a major contribution to communism's collapse."

FORMER GERMAN CHANCELLOR HELMUT KOHL, who stood with
Reagan as he made a historic Cold War appeal at the Berlin Wall.

"His consistent championing of freedom contributed decisively to
overcoming the division of Europe and Germany. We Germans
have much to thank Ronald Reagan for."

FORMER SOVIET PRESIDENT MIKHAIL GORBACHEV

"I view Reagan as a great president," said Gorbachev, adding
that his dialogue with Reagan "kick-started the process which
ultimately put an end to the Cold War".

"I do not know how other statesmen would act in his place at the
time. Reagan, who was considered ultra-conservative, dared those
steps and that was his strength."

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon,

You wouldn't know reality if it bit you on your ass. The fact that you had to
twist the intent of my words is proof enough. Please, feel free to show me
where I stated that the movie should be taken as reality. Have you actually
seen the movie? As Diverd4777 has pointed out "- its an interesting peice
about the fall of Communist East Germany, with some comedy sub plot . . ."

I suggest that you read the following CIA document before crowing about the
Ronald Reagan and the US undoing communism in Eastern Europe. Very shameful
how the USA decided not to warn Solidarity, don't you think?

http://www.cia.gov/csi/books/poland/

Furthermore, the Poles had always been at odds with the Communists. I can damn
well assure you that the Reagan and the gang had nothing to do with various
uprisings in 1956, 1970 and 1976. The Poles brought about the revolution
themselves to eventually free themselves. It wasn't the USA! Live with the
fact!

Please, no more revisionist history from you. I don't care what you thought
you saw in "real time" but a few of my Polish colleagues easily tell a story
different from yours.

Regards

John Barnard

Telamon wrote:

In article , John Barnard
wrote:

If you ever get the chance see "Good-bye, Lenin". It's a very good movie
concerning the fall of communism in East Germany.

By all means continue getting your perspective from the movies while the
rest of us stick to reality.

The following from

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissin...43&sid=4983826

FORMER SOLIDARITY LEADER AND POLISH PRESIDENT LECH WALESA

"When I heard of President Reagan's death, as a Christian I prayed for
him. As a politician I recalled the important role he had played in
the overthrow of world communism.

"Somewhere at the turn of the 1980s a number of politicians and others
at different points on the globe began moving towards a single goal:
the overthrow of the murderous communist system that had the blood of
200 million people on its hands. Reagan was one of the world leaders
who made a major contribution to communism's collapse."

FORMER GERMAN CHANCELLOR HELMUT KOHL, who stood with
Reagan as he made a historic Cold War appeal at the Berlin Wall.

"His consistent championing of freedom contributed decisively to
overcoming the division of Europe and Germany. We Germans
have much to thank Ronald Reagan for."

FORMER SOVIET PRESIDENT MIKHAIL GORBACHEV

"I view Reagan as a great president," said Gorbachev, adding
that his dialogue with Reagan "kick-started the process which
ultimately put an end to the Cold War".

"I do not know how other statesmen would act in his place at the
time. Reagan, who was considered ultra-conservative, dared those
steps and that was his strength."

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
(Llgpt) writes:

Subject: The Greatest President In My Lifetime


I mostly remember Iran Contra, arms for hostages
and how no one could recall.

Fixing an election rather than fixing a country..

the Beiruit Barracks Bombing

- the flawless timing of the Hostage Release
with Regan taking office...

- And the great speeches Peggy Noonan wrote that he recited..

In article , Noel
writes:

Llgpt is right, the Soviet Union spent itself out of
existence.


War in Afghanistan, ( against the CIA supported rebels ) Supporting Cuba, then
the arms race and troubles in
the Muslim strongholds ( Chechnia )..,.

- Pfft !

- Regan could have just played Golf & read Peggy Noonan speeches

"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...
| In article , Noel
| writes:
|
| Llgpt is right, the Soviet Union spent itself out of
| existence.
|
|
| War in Afghanistan, ( against the CIA supported rebels ) Supporting Cuba,
then
| the arms race and troubles in
| the Muslim strongholds ( Chechnia )..,.
|
| - Pfft !
|
| - Regan could have just played Golf & read Peggy Noonan speeches

I knew the worms would come crawling out, re-writing history.

Well, I guess if it makes you feel better....

73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

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DiverD,

Say what you will.

But that does not change the fact that anywhere from
2/3 to 3/4 of Americans in the last several years say:

That they "Liked" Ronald W Reagan as a person and thought
that he was a 'good' President and had respected him [.]

I know that this simple fact causes Liberal Democrats
to "See Red" and 'Galls' the Leftist Media Elite to speak
a few Kind-Words now at his passing.

God Blessing Be Upon the Soul of Ronald W Reagan
and Grant his Family and Friends Peace and Comfort
at the Loss of a Loved One - Amen ~ RHF
..
..
= = = (Diverd4777) wrote in message
= = = ...
In article , Noel
writes:

Llgpt is right, the Soviet Union spent itself out of
existence.


War in Afghanistan, ( against the CIA supported rebels ) Supporting Cuba, then
the arms race and troubles in
the Muslim strongholds ( Chechnia )..,.

- Pfft !

- Regan could have just played Golf & read Peggy Noonan speeches

Yeah, as a person he was probably an OK Guy;

(- Just ask Jane Wyman )

He was a B Movie actor / Lifeguard who had a good speech writer;

Probably a decent human being, politics aside..



In article ,
(RHF) writes:


DiverD,

Say what you will.

But that does not change the fact that anywhere from
2/3 to 3/4 of Americans in the last several years say:

That they "Liked" Ronald W Reagan as a person and thought
that he was a 'good' President and had respected him [.]

DiverD,

What now seems a long time ago.

I worked with an Old Man from Tennessee, who wore a small Wooden
Cross on a Red String around his neck. We were talking about a
Senior Manager who have died and who's Funeral we were attending.
What he told me was at times like these; we should Focus on the
'things' the would "Recommend" the Dead Man to God;
and put aside those things that were of a mere earthly concern.

Ronald W Reagan was a good California Governor and a good President.
But most of all, he was a Kind and Gentle Man, who was a Good
Husband and Father.

"God Blessing Be Upon the Soul of Ronald W Reagan and Grant his
Family and Friends Peace and Comfort at the Loss of a Loved One
- Amen ~ RHF"
..
..
= = = (Diverd4777) wrote in message
= = = ...
Yeah, as a person he was probably an OK Guy;

(- Just ask Jane Wyman )

He was a B Movie actor / Lifeguard who had a good speech writer;

Probably a decent human being, politics aside..



In article ,
(RHF) writes:


DiverD,

Say what you will.

But that does not change the fact that anywhere from
2/3 to 3/4 of Americans in the last several years say:

That they "Liked" Ronald W Reagan as a person and thought
that he was a 'good' President and had respected him [.]


..

DiverD,

"Just ask Jane Wyman"

Since you Begged the Question... Here is the Answer )

"America has lost a great president and a great,
kind and gentle man." - Jane Wyman

"First Wife Lauds Reagan"
Long Beach Press Telegram
Friday, June 11, 2004
http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories...208126,00.html
PALM SPRINGS Jane Wyman, the first wife of Ronald Reagan,
has released a statement through a friend praising the
nation's 40th president.

r e s p e c t ~ RHF
..
..
= = = (Diverd4777) wrote in message
= = = ...
Yeah, as a person he was probably an OK Guy;

(- Just ask Jane Wyman )

He was a B Movie actor / Lifeguard who had a good speech writer;

Probably a decent human being, politics aside..



In article ,
(RHF) writes:


DiverD,

Say what you will.

But that does not change the fact that anywhere from
2/3 to 3/4 of Americans in the last several years say:

That they "Liked" Ronald W Reagan as a person and thought
that he was a 'good' President and had respected him [.]

at (CRUSH THE LEFT) wrote ...

Ronald Reagan. The man who defeated Soviet Communism (no wonder liberals hate
him). May he rest in peace.

Both sides are producing some good points here. So it all started
when Reagan beat Carter in '80. If I recall, Bugs Bunny could have
beaten Carter that year. A few watch-words of the era we
"Double digit inflation" and "Double digit interest rates". Add to
that the Iran hostage crisis.

Why the Democrats chose to run him again is a mystery, ain't it.