to read differing political opinions here. Keeping an open mind, one can
learn something from even someone they don't normally agree with.

However, what has been going on in here lately is simply a lot of childish
"my dad's better than your dad". There's been no discussion of issues, only
bashing of each other's political beliefs (and much of it hasn't even been
to that level). Both sides are only parroting what someone else has said
without giving any thought to it whatsoever. Mindless sheep are still
mindless sheep whether they follow Bush or Kerry. There has been wholesale
corruption of government and of minimization of our Constitutional rights
since 9/11. This is wrong. But you know what?? I don't see where Kerry will
be any better.

In the last election, I didn't vote for either major candidate. One didn't
know the English language, the other was a pathological liar. In this
election, the incumbant has become less than trustworthy, and the other
candidate couldn't make a decision and stick with it if his life depended on
it.

So, how about, instead of calling each other names, we start looking
legitimately at the issues, from both sides, and start doing something about
them ourselves.. after all, it IS supposed to be US that have the real power
in the US. The politicians are supposed to be there to do what WE want, not
to make US do what THEY want. How did representative government ever
degrade into something where we don't elect someone to represent us to the
rest of the people, but instead elect who we will have to dictate and
micromanage our lives?

Let's grow up and see that not everything the conservatives or the liberal
say is gospel, but neither is it evil. Both sides have good sections of
their platforms, what we somehow need to do is bring those good sections
together into something positive for everyone.. isn't that what this country
is supposed to be about anyway?



--
Illigitimus non tatum carborundum

(Don't let the *******s wear you down)

Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:

to read differing political opinions here. Keeping an open mind, one can
learn something from even someone they don't normally agree with.

However, what has been going on in here lately is simply a lot of childish
"my dad's better than your dad". There's been no discussion of issues, only
bashing of each other's political beliefs (and much of it hasn't even been
to that level). Both sides are only parroting what someone else has said
without giving any thought to it whatsoever. Mindless sheep are still
mindless sheep whether they follow Bush or Kerry. There has been wholesale
corruption of government and of minimization of our Constitutional rights
since 9/11. This is wrong. But you know what?? I don't see where Kerry will
be any better.

In the last election, I didn't vote for either major candidate. One didn't
know the English language, the other was a pathological liar. In this
election, the incumbant has become less than trustworthy, and the other
candidate couldn't make a decision and stick with it if his life depended on
it.

Do they allow you to vote in the Korean erection? And why would it be important
to know Engrish? ;-)

dxAce

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
...
to read differing political opinions here. Keeping an open mind, one can
learn something from even someone they don't normally agree with.

There's always something interesting
in the ham/shortwave NG's. Ever since
RH cleaned the kooks from off of ham
radio 75 and 20 meters Usenet has been
a 24/7 nuthouse. (...well, sort of)

"After years of drooling on himself and complaining
that blueberry pancakes attack him at night, ex-President
Ronald Reagan finally succumbs to the ravages of dotering
stupidity. A grateful nation orders a #3 with Biggie Fries
and moves on...."

- Scopia Futori in alt.tasteless

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:

to read differing political opinions here. Keeping an open mind, one can
learn something from even someone they don't normally agree with.

However, what has been going on in here lately is simply a lot of
childish
"my dad's better than your dad". There's been no discussion of issues,
only
bashing of each other's political beliefs (and much of it hasn't even
been
to that level). Both sides are only parroting what someone else has said
without giving any thought to it whatsoever. Mindless sheep are still
mindless sheep whether they follow Bush or Kerry. There has been
wholesale
corruption of government and of minimization of our Constitutional
rights
since 9/11. This is wrong. But you know what?? I don't see where Kerry
will
be any better.

In the last election, I didn't vote for either major candidate. One
didn't
know the English language, the other was a pathological liar. In this
election, the incumbant has become less than trustworthy, and the other
candidate couldn't make a decision and stick with it if his life
depended on
it.

Do they allow you to vote in the Korean erection? And why would it be
important
to know Engrish? ;-)


I vote in the US elections. As well as my home state/county elections.

I applaud your optimism. However (not to berate the obvious), it's been
tried and found to be an act of utter futility to attempt a reasoned
discussion on most any subject -much less politics- in any usenet forum
regardless of best intentions.

I predict any reasoned discourse on politics would start off slow, and
taper-off/degrade from there. Although I think you (B.A.) would have a
better chance than most; my hat's off to you or anyone else that could
pull it off.

-=jd=-


I could not agree more with a single post since I began following this
group. However, I feel my time spent here establishes, to some degree, the
level of my intellect, and very regretfully so. Good luck, Brenda Ann.


Brian

In article et, "Brian"
writes:


I could not agree more with a single post since I began following this
group. However, I feel my time spent here establishes, to some degree, the
level of my intellect, and very regretfully so. Good luck, Brenda Ann.

From
http://myrockport.com/world.htm

Robotender
A popular bar had a new robotic bartender installed.
A fellow came in for a drink and the robot asked him, 'What's your IQ?'
The man replied, '150.' So the robot proceeded to make conversation about
Quantum physics, string theory, atomic chemistry, and so on.
The man listened intently and thought, 'This is really cool.'
The man decided to test the robot. He walked out the bar, turned around, and
came back in for another drink.
Again, the robot asked him, 'What's your IQ?'
The man responded, '100.' So the robot started talking about football,
baseball, and so on.
The man thought to himself, 'Wow, this is amazing.' The man went out and came
back in a third time.
As before, the robot asked him, 'What's your IQ?' The man replied, '50.'
The robot then said, 'So, you gonna vote for Bush again?'

From
http://myrockport.com/world.htm

Robotender
A popular bar had a new robotic bartender installed.
A fellow came in for a drink and the robot asked him, 'What's your IQ?'
The man replied, '150.' So the robot proceeded to make conversation about
Quantum physics, string theory, atomic chemistry, and so on.
The man listened intently and thought, 'This is really cool.'
The man decided to test the robot. He walked out the bar, turned around,
and
came back in for another drink.
Again, the robot asked him, 'What's your IQ?'
The man responded, '100.' So the robot started talking about football,
baseball, and so on.
The man thought to himself, 'Wow, this is amazing.' The man went out and
came
back in a third time.
As before, the robot asked him, 'What's your IQ?' The man replied, '50.'
The robot then said, 'So, you gonna vote for Bush again?



Thanks for the laugh, Dan.


Brian

Perhaps the name of the group should be changed to something like ...oh,
sci.politics or the like???

jw
k9rzz

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:11:40 +0900, "Brenda Ann Dyer"
wrote:

to read differing political opinions here. Keeping an open mind, one can
learn something from even someone they don't normally agree with.

[snip]

micromanage our lives?

Let's grow up and see that not everything the conservatives or the liberal
say is gospel, but neither is it evil. Both sides have good sections of
their platforms, what we somehow need to do is bring those good sections
together into something positive for everyone.. isn't that what this country
is supposed to be about anyway?

Well OK - I would agree that we can have an educated political
discussion right here on RRS although my dad can take anyone's dad.

I'm worried about the National Debt and that fact that it is growing.
How can we stop that from happening without needing a large jar of
Kool-aid?

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
...
to read differing political opinions here. Keeping an open mind, one can
learn something from even someone they don't normally agree with.

However, what has been going on in here lately is simply a lot of childish
"my dad's better than your dad".

Usenet is a terrible place for friendly political/religious discusion. But
then again so is almost any venue.