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Dwight Stewart September 5th 04 11:21 AM


"-=jd=-" wrote:

In one unit, I had to wear a unit citation
ribbon for actions my unit took before
I was *born*. (snip)



A unit citation ribbon? Is that the same as the Air Force Outstanding Unit
Award, awarded to units "which have distinguished themselves by
exceptionally meritorious service or outstanding achievement that clearly
sets the unit above and apart from similar units, the services include;
performance of exceptionally meritorious service, accomplishment of a
specific outstanding achievement of national or international significance,
combat operations against an armed enemy of the United States, or military
operations involving conflict with or exposure to hostile actions by an
opposing foreign force."

http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil/awardsAsp/Medal.asp

Regardless, after a lengthy search, I could not find anything that would
agree or disagree with the idea of personnel later joining a unit wearing
the awards previously presented to that unit. Therefore, the only thing
remaining is the general regulations against wearing unauthorized ribbons
and awards. And, lacking anything else, I guess I'll leave it at that.

Stewart


Tom Betz September 5th 04 02:38 PM

Quoth Dan in
:

As always, the more we find out about this guy, the less
likely folks will be to vote for him.


The more we find out about ANY politician, the less likely folks
will be to vote for him. That's why Bush has refused to release
his TANG records, despite having said otherwise.


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dxAce September 5th 04 02:59 PM



Tom Betz wrote:

Quoth Dan in
:

As always, the more we find out about this guy, the less
likely folks will be to vote for him.


The more we find out about ANY politician, the less likely folks
will be to vote for him. That's why Bush has refused to release
his TANG records, despite having said otherwise.


Well, Kerry certainly has a lot of problems, the majority of which will
not be cured by releasing records.

It's rather difficult to correct character flaws at this point in time.

dxAce



Mark S. Holden September 5th 04 03:36 PM

Dwight Stewart wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote:

Dennis Hassert and John Warner
have both publicly said the information
about his attendance can be released
if Sen. Kerry gives permission. (Warner
said it on Meet the Press)

So far, the Kerry campaign doesn't
seem to have offered a response.




Can you blame him, Mark? This is clearly a one sided deal. Are Dennis
Hassert and John Warner going to release their committee attendance history?
Are the other Intelligence Committee members? Is Bush going to account for
his Intelligence briefings and activities? Of course not. It's all on Kerry
instead. As such, the only thing Kerry has done wrong, in my opinion, is not
telling all those asking for this information to go to hell.

Stewart



You'd think if his attendance at the closed meetings was good, he'd be
anxious to take away the argument.

My guess is way back when, John Kerry underestimated how much of an
issue national security and defense would be when he ran for President.





nojunk@this_address.com (Mike Pearson September 5th 04 06:32 PM

-=jd=- wrote:


In my case, it was either wear it or be "out-of-uniform" with everyone
else. Once it was awarded to the unit, everyone assigned to the unit from
that point forward gets to wear it. I stopped wearing mine with Class A's
after I left that unit and I do not know if I should have continued
wearing it. Like I said, it is quite possible the zoomies do things
differently and someone from the Air-Force would have to confirm.


In the Air Force, it was essentially "wear it while assigned to the
unit, unless you were assigned to the unit for the time period for which
it was awarded, in which case you wear it forever".


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Telamon September 5th 04 08:44 PM

In article . net,
"Dwight Stewart" wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote:

Dennis Hassert and John Warner
have both publicly said the information
about his attendance can be released
if Sen. Kerry gives permission. (Warner
said it on Meet the Press)

So far, the Kerry campaign doesn't
seem to have offered a response.



Can you blame him, Mark? This is clearly a one sided deal. Are Dennis
Hassert and John Warner going to release their committee attendance history?
Are the other Intelligence Committee members? Is Bush going to account for
his Intelligence briefings and activities? Of course not. It's all on Kerry
instead. As such, the only thing Kerry has done wrong, in my opinion, is not
telling all those asking for this information to go to hell.


Well he is asking for my vote so Kerry can go to hell as far as I'm
concerned.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Dwight Stewart September 6th 04 03:35 AM


"Dan" wrote:

(snip) At least Bush *attended* the
briefings. (snip)



How do you know that? As far as any of us know, Bush could have been in
bed asleep while his staff attended the briefings. Indeed, we don't even
know for sure his staff attended. They could have sent a part-time secretary
instead. I'm not saying any of that is true, only that we (including you)
don't know.

Stewart


Dwight Stewart September 6th 04 03:51 AM


"Mark S. Holden" wrote:

You'd think if his attendance at
the closed meetings was good,
he'd be anxious to take away
the argument. (snip)



No, I think he is just darn tired of being asked to provide information
which nobody else involved in all this is providing.

Stewart


dxAce September 6th 04 03:53 AM



Dwight Stewart wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote:

You'd think if his attendance at
the closed meetings was good,
he'd be anxious to take away
the argument. (snip)


No, I think he is just darn tired of being asked to provide information
which nobody else involved in all this is providing.


But wouldn't stepping forward and providing the info be a coup for him.
Showing leadership and all?

dxAce



Dwight Stewart September 6th 04 04:08 AM


"Telamon" wrote:
"Dwight Stewart" wrote:
(snip) As such, the only thing Kerry
has done wrong, in my opinion, is not
telling all those asking for this
information to go to hell.



Well he is asking for my vote so
Kerry can go to hell as far as I'm
concerned.



Well, that is hardly a surprise. Based on your prior messages in this
newsgroup, you wouldn't vote for Kerry even if God came down tonight and
told you to do so. Therefore, Kerry wouldn't get your vote if he released
more information, no matter what that information might say. The same is
probably true for most others in this newsgroup ranting about info not being
released.

Stewart



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