= = =m II wrote in message
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RHF wrote:

American politicians calling their enemies 'girly men'. What a farce.
It's just like grade three. What next? Pro wrestlers as Political leaders?

mike


MII,

Where have your been ? ? ?

Ever heard of Jesse "The Body" Ventura ? ? ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura

This is a bad medium for the finer nuances of irony, sarcasm, hyperbole,
understatement. I was belabouring the obvious in an attempt to add
credence to the statements preceding the question.

mike

MII,

An I was just 'acting' "Presidential" a la RWR )

~ RHF
..

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:47 am -0600 UTC, m II
posted: %MM

This is a bad medium for the finer nuances of irony, sarcasm, hyperbole,
understatement. I was belabouring the obvious in an attempt to add
credence to the statements preceding the question.

mike

You are right on that point Mike. Nuances? Subtlety? Wazzat?

horoscopes and tried to keep him awake. Steroid-formed Schwartzenegger
lied about seeing Soviet tanks in his town - so says the Austrian gov't -
never any in his town.

Someone is telling lies about what Arnold said -- he didn't say that he
saw the tanks in his home town. Read the transcript. This is similar
to the Austrian misinterpretation of the American usage of the term
'Socialist'. Indeed, the European governments do tend to be 'socialist'
but that is different (in American usage) from being communist. Frankly,
some of the European nations do tend to come closer to 'Communist' than
they seem to be comfortable in admitting, but it would be wrong to make
the blanket assertion that they are 'Communist.' Lots
of these kinds of misinterpretations cause quite a bit of confusion, but
those who are limited in worldliness will tend to blow the confusion
out of proportion. It is incredible that someone in the European
press (or whomever) would still not know that the Americans use the
term 'socialist' in a different way than the Europeans... Geesh, similarly,
an automobiles 'boot' would be hard for an American to find -- if he
is equally provincial as those who complained about Arnolds usage of
the term 'Socialist.'

John

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:37 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:47 am -0600 UTC, m II
posted: %MM

This is a bad medium for the finer nuances of irony, sarcasm, hyperbole,
understatement. I was belabouring the obvious in an attempt to add
credence to the statements preceding the question.

mike

You are right on that point Mike. Nuances? Subtlety? Wazzat?

horoscopes and tried to keep him awake. Steroid-formed Schwartzenegger
lied about seeing Soviet tanks in his town - so says the Austrian gov't -
never any in his town.

Someone is telling lies about what Arnold said -- he didn't say that he
saw the tanks in his home town. Read the transcript.

I don't need a transcript. I watched him say it. The whole thing was on
CPAC. He went further and talked about worries his father would be taken at
Soviet checkpoints. Equally false. No such checkpoints in the time frame
of his life.

This is similar
to the Austrian misinterpretation of the American usage of the term
'Socialist'. Indeed, the European governments do tend to be 'socialist'
but that is different (in American usage) from being communist. Frankly,
some of the European nations do tend to come closer to 'Communist' than
they seem to be comfortable in admitting, but it would be wrong to make
the blanket assertion that they are 'Communist.' Lots
of these kinds of misinterpretations cause quite a bit of confusion, but
those who are limited in worldliness will tend to blow the confusion
out of proportion. It is incredible that someone in the European
press (or whomever) would still not know that the Americans use the
term 'socialist' in a different way than the Europeans... Geesh,
similarly, an automobiles 'boot' would be hard for an American to find --
if he is equally provincial as those who complained about Arnolds usage of
the term 'Socialist.'

Schartzennegger has been in the US long enough to know this and temper or
modify his usage. BTW, radical means liberal in Europe. I find that
Americans are less informed in general about the rest of the world than the
rest of world is about the US and the rest of the world. And the National
Geographic shows this continuously in their ratings of different countries'
knowledge of the world. I think Americans believe the rest of the world
doesn't matter as much. Other posts have indicated that knowledge of
American history is deficient.

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:37 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:47 am -0600 UTC, m II
posted: %MM

This is a bad medium for the finer nuances of irony, sarcasm, hyperbole,
understatement. I was belabouring the obvious in an attempt to add
credence to the statements preceding the question.

mike

You are right on that point Mike. Nuances? Subtlety? Wazzat?

horoscopes and tried to keep him awake. Steroid-formed Schwartzenegger
lied about seeing Soviet tanks in his town - so says the Austrian gov't -
never any in his town.

Someone is telling lies about what Arnold said -- he didn't say that he
saw the tanks in his home town. Read the transcript.

I don't need a transcript. I watched him say it. The whole thing was on
CPAC.

You don't provide quotes. I heard the speech realtime... He didn't
say that he saw the tanks in his home town. Also, what a child would
call (and remember) as a 'tank' might be a personel carrier. Memory
of such items (even as an older child) would be quite distorted. Take
a look at the inside of your old grade-school -- it will seem much
smaller nowadays.

The impression left in the mind of a child will often persist into
adulthood. Demanding an adult mentality inside of Arnold as a child
is MUCH MUCH more than the mentality demanded by the left for John
Friggen Kerry or BJ Clinton.

Again, where did Arnold claim that the tanks were in his home town?
Please provide quotes, and not paraphrase...

Where Arnold claimed that the tanks were in his home town was obviously
in the distorted, hatefilled, leftist mind.

John

In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:37 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:47 am -0600 UTC, m II
posted: %MM

This is a bad medium for the finer nuances of irony, sarcasm, hyperbole,
understatement. I was belabouring the obvious in an attempt to add
credence to the statements preceding the question.

mike

You are right on that point Mike. Nuances? Subtlety? Wazzat?

horoscopes and tried to keep him awake. Steroid-formed Schwartzenegger
lied about seeing Soviet tanks in his town - so says the Austrian gov't -
never any in his town.

Someone is telling lies about what Arnold said -- he didn't say that he
saw the tanks in his home town. Read the transcript.

I don't need a transcript. I watched him say it. The whole thing was on
CPAC. He went further and talked about worries his father would be taken at
Soviet checkpoints. Equally false. No such checkpoints in the time frame
of his life.

This is similar
to the Austrian misinterpretation of the American usage of the term
'Socialist'. Indeed, the European governments do tend to be 'socialist'
but that is different (in American usage) from being communist. Frankly,
some of the European nations do tend to come closer to 'Communist' than
they seem to be comfortable in admitting, but it would be wrong to make
the blanket assertion that they are 'Communist.' Lots
of these kinds of misinterpretations cause quite a bit of confusion, but
those who are limited in worldliness will tend to blow the confusion
out of proportion. It is incredible that someone in the European
press (or whomever) would still not know that the Americans use the
term 'socialist' in a different way than the Europeans... Geesh,
similarly, an automobiles 'boot' would be hard for an American to find --
if he is equally provincial as those who complained about Arnolds usage of
the term 'Socialist.'

Schartzennegger has been in the US long enough to know this and temper or
modify his usage. BTW, radical means liberal in Europe. I find that
Americans are less informed in general about the rest of the world than the
rest of world is about the US and the rest of the world. And the National
Geographic shows this continuously in their ratings of different countries'
knowledge of the world. I think Americans believe the rest of the world
doesn't matter as much. Other posts have indicated that knowledge of
American history is deficient.

Well your posts indicate you to be incapable of rational thought or
possess the ability to assess information. Be sure to let us know how it
feels to be a deficient moron.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:17 pm -0600 UTC, Telamon
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:37 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:47 am -0600 UTC, m II
posted: %MM

This is a bad medium for the finer nuances of irony, sarcasm,
hyperbole,
understatement. I was belabouring the obvious in an attempt to add
credence to the statements preceding the question.

mike

You are right on that point Mike. Nuances? Subtlety? Wazzat?

horoscopes and tried to keep him awake. Steroid-formed
Schwartzenegger lied about seeing Soviet tanks in his town - so says
the Austrian gov't - never any in his town.

Someone is telling lies about what Arnold said -- he didn't say that he
saw the tanks in his home town. Read the transcript.

I don't need a transcript. I watched him say it. The whole thing was on
CPAC. He went further and talked about worries his father would be taken
at
Soviet checkpoints. Equally false. No such checkpoints in the time frame
of his life.

This is similar
to the Austrian misinterpretation of the American usage of the term
'Socialist'. Indeed, the European governments do tend to be
'socialist'
but that is different (in American usage) from being communist.
Frankly, some of the European nations do tend to come closer to
'Communist' than they seem to be comfortable in admitting, but it would
be wrong to make
the blanket assertion that they are 'Communist.' Lots
of these kinds of misinterpretations cause quite a bit of confusion,
but those who are limited in worldliness will tend to blow the
confusion
out of proportion. It is incredible that someone in the European
press (or whomever) would still not know that the Americans use the
term 'socialist' in a different way than the Europeans... Geesh,
similarly, an automobiles 'boot' would be hard for an American to find
-- if he is equally provincial as those who complained about Arnolds
usage of the term 'Socialist.'

Schartzennegger has been in the US long enough to know this and temper or
modify his usage. BTW, radical means liberal in Europe. I find that
Americans are less informed in general about the rest of the world than
the
rest of world is about the US and the rest of the world. And the
National Geographic shows this continuously in their ratings of different
countries'
knowledge of the world. I think Americans believe the rest of the world
doesn't matter as much. Other posts have indicated that knowledge of
American history is deficient.

Well your posts indicate you to be incapable of rational thought or
possess the ability to assess information. Be sure to let us know how it
feels to be a deficient moron.

I think you mean that you have no further points to make and therefore stoop
to attacks on the person of the poster. It's okay, we understand. Sad
though.
-

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:04 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:37 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:47 am -0600 UTC, m II
posted: %MM

This is a bad medium for the finer nuances of irony, sarcasm,
hyperbole,
understatement. I was belabouring the obvious in an attempt to add
credence to the statements preceding the question.

mike

You are right on that point Mike. Nuances? Subtlety? Wazzat?

horoscopes and tried to keep him awake. Steroid-formed Schwartzenegger
lied about seeing Soviet tanks in his town - so says the Austrian gov't
- never any in his town.

Someone is telling lies about what Arnold said -- he didn't say that he
saw the tanks in his home town. Read the transcript.

I don't need a transcript. I watched him say it. The whole thing was on
CPAC.

You don't provide quotes. I heard the speech realtime... He didn't
say that he saw the tanks in his home town. Also, what a child would
call (and remember) as a 'tank' might be a personel carrier. Memory
of such items (even as an older child) would be quite distorted. Take
a look at the inside of your old grade-school -- it will seem much
smaller nowadays.

The impression left in the mind of a child will often persist into
adulthood. Demanding an adult mentality inside of Arnold as a child
is MUCH MUCH more than the mentality demanded by the left for John
Friggen Kerry or BJ Clinton.

Again, where did Arnold claim that the tanks were in his home town?
Please provide quotes, and not paraphrase...

Where Arnold claimed that the tanks were in his home town was obviously
in the distorted, hatefilled, leftist mind.

John

You forgot "girlie man".

From what I understand, Arnold is now an adult. So are all of the
politicians, and they all lie and behave like children. I agree with that
much.

In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:17 pm -0600 UTC, Telamon
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:37 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:47 am -0600 UTC, m II
posted: %MM

This is a bad medium for the finer nuances of irony, sarcasm,
hyperbole,
understatement. I was belabouring the obvious in an attempt to add
credence to the statements preceding the question.

mike

You are right on that point Mike. Nuances? Subtlety? Wazzat?

horoscopes and tried to keep him awake. Steroid-formed
Schwartzenegger lied about seeing Soviet tanks in his town - so says
the Austrian gov't - never any in his town.

Someone is telling lies about what Arnold said -- he didn't say that he
saw the tanks in his home town. Read the transcript.

I don't need a transcript. I watched him say it. The whole thing was on
CPAC. He went further and talked about worries his father would be taken
at
Soviet checkpoints. Equally false. No such checkpoints in the time frame
of his life.

This is similar
to the Austrian misinterpretation of the American usage of the term
'Socialist'. Indeed, the European governments do tend to be
'socialist'
but that is different (in American usage) from being communist.
Frankly, some of the European nations do tend to come closer to
'Communist' than they seem to be comfortable in admitting, but it would
be wrong to make
the blanket assertion that they are 'Communist.' Lots
of these kinds of misinterpretations cause quite a bit of confusion,
but those who are limited in worldliness will tend to blow the
confusion
out of proportion. It is incredible that someone in the European
press (or whomever) would still not know that the Americans use the
term 'socialist' in a different way than the Europeans... Geesh,
similarly, an automobiles 'boot' would be hard for an American to find
-- if he is equally provincial as those who complained about Arnolds
usage of the term 'Socialist.'

Schartzennegger has been in the US long enough to know this and temper or
modify his usage. BTW, radical means liberal in Europe. I find that
Americans are less informed in general about the rest of the world than
the
rest of world is about the US and the rest of the world. And the
National Geographic shows this continuously in their ratings of different
countries'
knowledge of the world. I think Americans believe the rest of the world
doesn't matter as much. Other posts have indicated that knowledge of
American history is deficient.

Well your posts indicate you to be incapable of rational thought or
possess the ability to assess information. Be sure to let us know how it
feels to be a deficient moron.

I think you mean that you have no further points to make and therefore stoop
to attacks on the person of the poster. It's okay, we understand. Sad
though.

There you go again showing an inability to understand or assess
information. I was just returning an insult. You don't like it either do
you.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:04 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:37 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:47 am -0600 UTC, m II
posted: %MM

This is a bad medium for the finer nuances of irony, sarcasm,
hyperbole,
understatement. I was belabouring the obvious in an attempt to add
credence to the statements preceding the question.

mike

You are right on that point Mike. Nuances? Subtlety? Wazzat?

horoscopes and tried to keep him awake. Steroid-formed Schwartzenegger
lied about seeing Soviet tanks in his town - so says the Austrian gov't
- never any in his town.

Someone is telling lies about what Arnold said -- he didn't say that he
saw the tanks in his home town. Read the transcript.

I don't need a transcript. I watched him say it. The whole thing was on
CPAC.

You don't provide quotes. I heard the speech realtime... He didn't
say that he saw the tanks in his home town. Also, what a child would
call (and remember) as a 'tank' might be a personel carrier. Memory
of such items (even as an older child) would be quite distorted. Take
a look at the inside of your old grade-school -- it will seem much
smaller nowadays.

The impression left in the mind of a child will often persist into
adulthood. Demanding an adult mentality inside of Arnold as a child
is MUCH MUCH more than the mentality demanded by the left for John
Friggen Kerry or BJ Clinton.

Again, where did Arnold claim that the tanks were in his home town?
Please provide quotes, and not paraphrase...

Where Arnold claimed that the tanks were in his home town was obviously
in the distorted, hatefilled, leftist mind.

John

You forgot "girlie man".

From what I understand, Arnold is now an adult. So are all of the
politicians, and they all lie and behave like children. I agree with that
much.

That's "economic girly men."

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:04 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:37 pm -0600 UTC, John S. Dyson
posted: %MM

In article ,
uncle arnie writes:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:47 am -0600 UTC, m II
posted: %MM

This is a bad medium for the finer nuances of irony, sarcasm,
hyperbole,
understatement. I was belabouring the obvious in an attempt to add
credence to the statements preceding the question.

mike

You are right on that point Mike. Nuances? Subtlety? Wazzat?

horoscopes and tried to keep him awake. Steroid-formed Schwartzenegger
lied about seeing Soviet tanks in his town - so says the Austrian gov't
- never any in his town.

Someone is telling lies about what Arnold said -- he didn't say that he
saw the tanks in his home town. Read the transcript.

I don't need a transcript. I watched him say it. The whole thing was on
CPAC.

You don't provide quotes. I heard the speech realtime... He didn't
say that he saw the tanks in his home town. Also, what a child would
call (and remember) as a 'tank' might be a personel carrier. Memory
of such items (even as an older child) would be quite distorted. Take
a look at the inside of your old grade-school -- it will seem much
smaller nowadays.

The impression left in the mind of a child will often persist into
adulthood. Demanding an adult mentality inside of Arnold as a child
is MUCH MUCH more than the mentality demanded by the left for John
Friggen Kerry or BJ Clinton.

Again, where did Arnold claim that the tanks were in his home town?
Please provide quotes, and not paraphrase...

Where Arnold claimed that the tanks were in his home town was obviously
in the distorted, hatefilled, leftist mind.

John

You forgot "girlie man".

From what I understand, Arnold is now an adult. So are all of the
politicians, and they all lie and behave like children. I agree with that
much.

Firstly, the impression left as a child is still often kept with the
child's perspective (even when being an adult.) I certainly didn't
claim that Arnold had lied, but would agree that Kerry has been too
deceptive and made too many important claims that were deceptive (based
upon extremist sources.) I would only agree that most of the currently
running Dems are quite deceptive. (I would give leave for Lieberman,
Bayh, and a few others who are honest enough to be non-Dems if they
wished.)

John