In article ,
Kameron Spesial wrote:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:23:14 -0400, dxAce wrote:



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: Kameron Spesial

Telamon
wrote:

Best case - What you are doing is to tune something in, look it up a
database other people have taken the time to verify and generate then
state you heard that station without identifying them yourself so your
log is worthless.

Why is that worthless?

I've been in the hobby coming up on 40 years.

Yeah, and you still don't know the difference between Malaysia and
Indonesia.

In my years in high school and
college I studied a slew of languages.

Sure you did.



The first thing I do is try to identify
the language or language group.

No you don't, you look at the list.

Then I use several databases, including HFCC,
ILG, EiBi to make an educated guess. Then I listen up to three or minutes
usually, until I can pick up on what's being talked about.

But your logs don't indicate that you are listening that long.

Not really that
difficult.

List-logging never is.

I never claimed any of this stuff to be DX info.

Nobody said it was.

I'm just listing
what I'm hearing.

No, you're listing what is on the list.

Anyone with a radio with an external antenna ought to be able
to confirm any list I provide.

You're lucky at the moment, but like all list loggers, someday you'll really
screw
up, they all do. If you've been in the hobby for almost 40 years, surely
you'd be
aware of that.

dxAce



But ignore Telamon. He's a COMPLETE off-the-wall loon. Is he STILL making
constant delusions about me not even having a radio?

That's why he was one of the first to go into the killfile. This NG is
much
more enjoyable without seeing their posts. It would be better still, if
you
didn't re-post their attempts to try to lure me into fighting with them.

Radio can be fun.

Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A,
Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll,
Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nospam" to reply)

I'd have to agree with this Mike guy in this case - seams reasonable
enough.

Then you would be wrong. This is the argument, "seems" is not good
enough. If Bryant wants to list his assumption on what he heard then he
could post "presumed" in front of each station he did not verify. That
is if he really listens at all.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

IF he's listing his "Assumptions" on what he heard, then he might not
have heard those stations.

sometimes there's more than one station on the same frequency where you
can only hear the one one day and only hear the other another day.

true example from my loggings (althogh this veers off of shortwave a
bit)

one day, on 162.400 MHZ, I hear only NOAA weather radio. I think from
Castilla, Ohio (spelling?). On another day on the same radio and same
frequency, 162.400 MHZ, I hear only "Enviroment Canada"'s weather radio.

Some days, I can hear both depending on which direction I turn te radio.

On a normal day, I can't hear anything on 162.400 MHZ

My local NOAA weather radio station is on 162.55 MHZ which I can hear
all of the time.