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Old September 14th 04, 03:00 PM
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DesignGuy wrote:

let the flame war begin


Okay, I must have missed something here... posting logs to this newsgroup is
a bad thing? I've seen others do the same thing, but no flamefest follows.
It seems the OP is being singled out. Is it known for a *fact* that he is a
phony/list logger/time traveler/radioless or merely speculation - or not
even that?


If you look at the logs Bryant posts you'll find he logs a station about every two minutes.

When he tunes something in, if he doesn't recognize it right away, he looks it up on a schedule, finds the best fit, writes it down, and moves to the next one.

Reminds me a bit of the cell phone ad "can you hear me now?"

Purists feel you should wait until the station gives positive identification.

He's bound to get some errors, so I'd be concerned if he was doing it for national security. But most of his logs probably are accurate.

If you look in the archives, you'll find he's been a colorful character, and used to spend a lot of time in flame wars - calling just about anyone who disagreed with him a racist - even if race had nothing to do with the discussion.
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Old September 14th 04, 03:22 PM
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From: "Mark S. Holden"

If you look at the logs Bryant posts you'll find he logs a station about
every two minutes.

When he tunes something in, if he doesn't recognize it right away, he looks
it up on a schedule, finds the best fit, writes it down, and moves to the
next one.


Yes, I do use ILG, HFCC, and EiBi databases to determine if the language being
used matched up with known broadcasters, most of which have been broadcasting
on the same freqs and times for years. I also look for IDs, you'll see many
mentioned in the logs. Actually, when listening to news, two minutes is plenty
of time to catch a correspondent ID.


Reminds me a bit of the cell phone ad "can you hear me now?"

Purists feel you should wait until the station gives positive identification.

He's bound to get some errors, so I'd be concerned if he was doing it for
national security. But most of his logs probably are accurate.

If you look in the archives, you'll find he's been a colorful character, and
used to spend a lot of time in flame wars - calling just about anyone who
disagreed with him a racist - even if race had nothing to do with the
discussion.








He's bound to get some errors, so I'd be concerned if he was doing it for
national security. But most of his logs probably are accurate.


I challenge anyone to find one that's wrong. It's possible, but I think it will
be difficult. These aren't low-powered Africans. My logs are mainly int'l
broadcasters. My receiver, in recent logs, is a Degen 1103. And I'm not doing
it for national security - I'm doing it for fun.


If you look in the archives, you'll find he's been a colorful character, and
used to spend a lot of time in flame wars - calling just about anyone who
disagreed with him a racist - even if race had nothing to do with the
discussion.


Yes, this NG used to have a lot of racist posters. Any trip to the archives
will make that readily apparent. At one time instead of an infestation of
pro-Bush OT posts, we used to have a lot of people posting pro-racism posts. So
much so, in fact, that some major racists like Kevin Strom of the National
Alliance used to hang out in here. A lot of folks, ala Hal Turner, used to
suggest that the racist posts were simply accurate. I'm not ashamed of helping
to drive some of those folks out of this NG.

But I'm trying my best to make some actual SW-related posts. Hopefully the
passing of Nov. 2 will see people like Mark Holden return to shortwave. For
others, like Telamon and DXAce, they'll be here, acting uncivilly and demeaning
others, for trying to get this NG back to SW.

Some of them will go to great lengths to make up crap up and then repeat the
lies 20 times a day. Welcome to a place where some of the people simply aren't
very nice humans.

But witness what jerks some of them can be. And then fill the killfile. I have
no problem putting Mr. Holden back in it, even if occasionally he can be a
human.






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Old September 14th 04, 03:30 PM
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Michael Bryant wrote:

From: "Mark S. Holden"


If you look at the logs Bryant posts you'll find he logs a station about
every two minutes.

When he tunes something in, if he doesn't recognize it right away, he looks
it up on a schedule, finds the best fit, writes it down, and moves to the
next one.


Yes, I do use ILG, HFCC, and EiBi databases to determine if the language being
used matched up with known broadcasters, most of which have been broadcasting
on the same freqs and times for years. I also look for IDs, you'll see many
mentioned in the logs. Actually, when listening to news, two minutes is plenty
of time to catch a correspondent ID.


Reminds me a bit of the cell phone ad "can you hear me now?"

Purists feel you should wait until the station gives positive identification.

He's bound to get some errors, so I'd be concerned if he was doing it for
national security. But most of his logs probably are accurate.

If you look in the archives, you'll find he's been a colorful character, and
used to spend a lot of time in flame wars - calling just about anyone who
disagreed with him a racist - even if race had nothing to do with the
discussion.








He's bound to get some errors, so I'd be concerned if he was doing it for
national security. But most of his logs probably are accurate.


I challenge anyone to find one that's wrong. It's possible, but I think it will
be difficult. These aren't low-powered Africans. My logs are mainly int'l
broadcasters. My receiver, in recent logs, is a Degen 1103. And I'm not doing
it for national security - I'm doing it for fun.


If you look in the archives, you'll find he's been a colorful character, and
used to spend a lot of time in flame wars - calling just about anyone who
disagreed with him a racist - even if race had nothing to do with the
discussion.


Yes, this NG used to have a lot of racist posters. Any trip to the archives
will make that readily apparent. At one time instead of an infestation of
pro-Bush OT posts, we used to have a lot of people posting pro-racism posts. So
much so, in fact, that some major racists like Kevin Strom of the National
Alliance used to hang out in here. A lot of folks, ala Hal Turner, used to
suggest that the racist posts were simply accurate. I'm not ashamed of helping
to drive some of those folks out of this NG.

But I'm trying my best to make some actual SW-related posts. Hopefully the
passing of Nov. 2 will see people like Mark Holden return to shortwave. For
others, like Telamon and DXAce, they'll be here, acting uncivilly and demeaning
others, for trying to get this NG back to SW.


I'm not against getting the newsgroup on to SW, but neither am I against pointing
out your obvious and blatant lies.

Some of them will go to great lengths to make up crap up and then repeat the
lies 20 times a day.


I for one have made nothing up. You, on the other hand certainly have.

By the way, I just got off the phone with Louisville Technical Institute.

That's 1-800-844-6528 by the way.

dxAce



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Old September 14th 04, 03:48 PM
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dxAce wrote:

Some of them will go to great lengths to make up crap up and then repeat the
lies 20 times a day.



I for one have made nothing up. You, on the other hand certainly have.

By the way, I just got off the phone with Louisville Technical Institute.

That's 1-800-844-6528 by the way.

dxAce



How's the stalking going?




mike
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Old September 14th 04, 03:50 PM
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m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Some of them will go to great lengths to make up crap up and then repeat the
lies 20 times a day.



I for one have made nothing up. You, on the other hand certainly have.

By the way, I just got off the phone with Louisville Technical Institute.

That's 1-800-844-6528 by the way.

dxAce


How's the stalking going?


Who's stalking?

dxAce




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