"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Brian Hill wrote:

"Frank White" wrote in message


Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?



And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too.



True. But you'll be surprised how many people will just accept whatever
comes over that one-eyed monster in their living room.

I agree.

B.H.

"m II" wrote in message
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Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?


Therein might lie the key!


Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin
reception?

It creates broadband noise in the vicinity of power lines.

What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription.

Depends. IBOC, the digital capability being added to AM and FM in the US, is
free.

Satellite radio subscribers have addressable receivers which store
activation data and update it off the air. There is no key card.

If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who
is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web
cruising.

Nope. Satellite radio is one way, and only receives.

Brian Hill wrote:


Don't worry so much Mike.

Brian the Sinner!


Well! That is certainly a good step in your recovery. Admission of fault
is of the greatest importance in becoming the well rounded and liked
individuals we all aspire to be. It's work(1), but well worth it.

Believe me, I know! It took me at least three weeks to attain the level
of near perfection I enjoy now. With a bit more work, you too will
ascend to these lofty Olympian peaks.

We can wonder at the aimless wanderings of the unenlightened masses as
they confusedly stumble around our Mountain of Enlightenment.(2)

Look! I can see dxEh? down there now...ha...he's drunk again! I can't
blame him. He just found out that the deal he got on the last shipment
of fifty thousand .223 rounds was so cheap because the commies used
mercury fulminate primers. The EPA will surely make him clean it all up
after the next killing spree he goes on.



mike


(1) ..but NOT 'Bush' hard work. **REAL** hard work!
(2) Better than a Prayer Tower anyday.

"m II" wrote in message
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Brian Hill wrote:


Don't worry so much Mike.

Brian the Sinner!


Well! That is certainly a good step in your recovery. Admission of fault
is of the greatest importance in becoming the well rounded and liked
individuals we all aspire to be. It's work(1), but well worth it.

Believe me, I know! It took me at least three weeks to attain the level
of near perfection I enjoy now. With a bit more work, you too will
ascend to these lofty Olympian peaks.

We can wonder at the aimless wanderings of the unenlightened masses as
they confusedly stumble around our Mountain of Enlightenment.(2)

Look! I can see dxEh? down there now...ha...he's drunk again! I can't
blame him. He just found out that the deal he got on the last shipment
of fifty thousand .223 rounds was so cheap because the commies used
mercury fulminate primers. The EPA will surely make him clean it all up
after the next killing spree he goes on.

Speaking of guns and radios, some of you might find this of interest.

This is from a recent post that I read over in rec.guns.

"I recently purchased an antique radio, ca. 1920, hidden in the bottom
cavity of
which was an old pistol. As will become obvious, I know next to nothing
about
guns, and I was hoping that someone might be able to help me identify what
appears to be a very well made Belgian pistol from the early part of the
last
century."

He included links to pictures of the gun, and here they a


http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp4.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp5.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp6.jpg

Honus wrote:


This is from a recent post that I read over in rec.guns.

"I recently purchased an antique radio, ca. 1920, hidden in the bottom
cavity of
which was an old pistol. As will become obvious, I know next to nothing
about
guns, and I was hoping that someone might be able to help me identify what
appears to be a very well made Belgian pistol from the early part of the
last
century."

He included links to pictures of the gun, and here they a


http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp4.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp5.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp6.jpg



I don't know the type, but I'd bet it has a real story behind it.

There may be a slight chance of some help he

http://www.littlegun.be/index.htm


mike

m II wrote:
Honus wrote:


This is from a recent post that I read over in rec.guns.

"I recently purchased an antique radio, ca. 1920, hidden in the bottom
cavity of
which was an old pistol. As will become obvious, I know next to nothing
about
guns, and I was hoping that someone might be able to help me identify
what
appears to be a very well made Belgian pistol from the early part of the
last
century."

He included links to pictures of the gun, and here they a


http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp4.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp5.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp6.jpg



I don't know the type, but I'd bet it has a real story behind it.

There may be a slight chance of some help he

http://www.littlegun.be/index.htm



More specifically, he may submit a query he

http://www.littlegun.be/identificati...tification.htm


They seem to know what they're talking about.






mike

"m II" wrote in message
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m II wrote:
Honus wrote:


This is from a recent post that I read over in rec.guns.

"I recently purchased an antique radio, ca. 1920, hidden in the bottom
cavity of
which was an old pistol. As will become obvious, I know next to
nothing
about
guns, and I was hoping that someone might be able to help me identify
what
appears to be a very well made Belgian pistol from the early part of
the
last
century."

He included links to pictures of the gun, and here they a


http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp4.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp5.jpg
http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp6.jpg



I don't know the type, but I'd bet it has a real story behind it.

There may be a slight chance of some help he

http://www.littlegun.be/index.htm



More specifically, he may submit a query he

http://www.littlegun.be/identificati...tification.htm

Ha! That's exactly the link that was given to him. And man, I'd give almost
anything to know the story behind this. But then again, maybe not knowing is
more fun.

"m II" wrote in message
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Brian Hill wrote:


Don't worry so much Mike.

Brian the Sinner!


Well! That is certainly a good step in your recovery. Admission of fault
is of the greatest importance in becoming the well rounded and liked
individuals we all aspire to be. It's work(1), but well worth it.

Believe me, I know! It took me at least three weeks to attain the level
of near perfection I enjoy now. With a bit more work, you too will
ascend to these lofty Olympian peaks.
mike

Sounds like a lot of work Mike, I'm afraid I'll have to lower my level of
perfection.

B.H.

It sounds like you're a victim of media propaganda. The article you
quoteed says that the U.S. government seized Indymedia servers so that
Indymedia wasn't able to update anything.

Yet the article you quote says that the article is from Indymedia.

which means that Indymedia was able to update their servers after this
so-called seizure of Indymedia's servers.


you fell for media propagada lies.

you wrote:

I have lost the original link, but here's one of the many sites that
mirror the following article, along with related links.

http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/190952.html

From the IndyMedia website:

Thursday morning, US authorities issued a federal order to Rackspace
ordering them to hand over Indymedia web servers to the requesting
agency. Rackspace, which provides hosting services for more that 20
Indymedia sites at its London facility, complied and turned over the
requested servers, effectively removing those sites from the internet.

Since the subpoena was issued to Rackspace and not to Indymedia, the
reasons for this action are still unknown to Indymedia. Talking to
Indymedia volunteers, Rackspace stated that "they cannot provide
Indymedia with any information regarding the order." ISPs have received
gag orders in similar situations which prevent them from updating the
concerned parties on what is happening.

It is unclear to Indymedia how and why a server that is outside the US
jurisdiction can be seized by US authorities.

At the same time an additional server was taken down at Rackspace which
provided streaming radio to several radio stations, BLAG (linux distro),
and a handful of miscellanous things.

The last few months have seen numerous
attacks on independent media by the US Federal Government. In August the
Secret Service used a subpoena in an attempt to disrupt the NYC IMC
before the RNC by trying to get IP logs from an ISP in the US and the
Netherlands. Last month the FCC shut down community radio stations
around the US. Two weeks ago the FBI requested that Indymedia takes down
a post on the Nantes IMC that had a photo of some undercover Swiss
police and IMC volunteers in Seattle were visited by the FBI on the same
issue. On the other hand, Indymedia and other independent media
organisations were successfull with their victories for example against
Diebold and the Patroit Act. Today however, the US authorities shut down
IMCs around the world.

The list of affected local media collectives includes Ambazonia,
Uruguay, Andorra, Poland, Western Massachusetts, Nice, Nantes, Lilles,
Marseille (all France), Euskal Herria (Basque Country), Liege, East and
West Vlaanderen, Antwerpen (all Belgium), Belgrade, Portugal, Prague,
Galiza, Italy, Brazil, UK, part of the Germany site, and the global
Indymedia Radio site.

wrote: And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too.
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Not if they lose their liscence to transmit for failing to obey whatever
rules the government tells them to.