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October 13th 04, 04:04 PM
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Al Patrick wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web cruising. The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... mike |
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#12
October 13th 04, 04:07 PM
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m II wrote: Al Patrick wrote: Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web cruising. The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... But... it's not your home is it, 'tard boy? Keep buying those leaky, rusty submarines that your 'canoe' navy doesn't know how to operate. LMAO. dxAce Michigan USA |
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#13
October 13th 04, 04:16 PM
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"m II" wrote in message news:Atbbd.36945$663.20268@edtnps84... Al Patrick wrote: Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web cruising. The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... I think you left out a few things that a Stalinist state does that the U.S. does not do. |
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#14
October 13th 04, 05:56 PM
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Al Patrick wrote:
BDK wrote: In article AZ0bd.4101$Rp4.3913@trnddc01, honus1 @earthlink.net.is.invalid says... "BDK" wrote in message ... In article xt0bd.4090$Rp4.2255@trnddc01, honus1 @earthlink.net.is.invalid says... snip Al, sometimes you really frighten me. Sometimes?? It's hard to be scared when I'm LMAO.  The scary part is that Al isn't laughing! BDK Should I remind you if/when it happens? *IF* it happens, please do. |
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#15
October 13th 04, 05:58 PM
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m II wrote:
Al Patrick wrote: Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... Can you post some sources of these independent news web sites around the world being shut down by the US government? |
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October 13th 04, 06:35 PM
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#17
October 13th 04, 09:43 PM
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"Sir Cumferenc" wrote in message ... m II wrote: Al Patrick wrote: Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... Can you post some sources of these independent news web sites around the world being shut down by the US government? I have lost the original link, but here's one of the many sites that mirror the following article, along with related links. http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/190952.html From the IndyMedia website: Thursday morning, US authorities issued a federal order to Rackspace ordering them to hand over Indymedia web servers to the requesting agency. Rackspace, which provides hosting services for more that 20 Indymedia sites at its London facility, complied and turned over the requested servers, effectively removing those sites from the internet. Since the subpoena was issued to Rackspace and not to Indymedia, the reasons for this action are still unknown to Indymedia. Talking to Indymedia volunteers, Rackspace stated that "they cannot provide Indymedia with any information regarding the order." ISPs have received gag orders in similar situations which prevent them from updating the concerned parties on what is happening. It is unclear to Indymedia how and why a server that is outside the US jurisdiction can be seized by US authorities. At the same time an additional server was taken down at Rackspace which provided streaming radio to several radio stations, BLAG (linux distro), and a handful of miscellanous things. The last few months have seen numerous attacks on independent media by the US Federal Government. In August the Secret Service used a subpoena in an attempt to disrupt the NYC IMC before the RNC by trying to get IP logs from an ISP in the US and the Netherlands. Last month the FCC shut down community radio stations around the US. Two weeks ago the FBI requested that Indymedia takes down a post on the Nantes IMC that had a photo of some undercover Swiss police and IMC volunteers in Seattle were visited by the FBI on the same issue. On the other hand, Indymedia and other independent media organisations were successfull with their victories for example against Diebold and the Patroit Act. Today however, the US authorities shut down IMCs around the world. The list of affected local media collectives includes Ambazonia, Uruguay, Andorra, Poland, Western Massachusetts, Nice, Nantes, Lilles, Marseille (all France), Euskal Herria (Basque Country), Liege, East and West Vlaanderen, Antwerpen (all Belgium), Belgrade, Portugal, Prague, Galiza, Italy, Brazil, UK, part of the Germany site, and the global Indymedia Radio site. |
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#18
October 13th 04, 10:11 PM
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"Frank White" wrote in message Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too. -- 73 and good DXing. Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire! Zumbrota, Southern MN Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/ |
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#19
October 13th 04, 10:18 PM
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"m II" wrote in message Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web cruising. The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... mike Don't worry so much Mike. Brian the Sinner! |
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#20
October 13th 04, 10:43 PM
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Brian Hill wrote:
"Frank White" wrote in message Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too. True. But you'll be surprised how many people will just accept whatever comes over that one-eyed monster in their living room. |
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