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"Pilotbutteradio" wrote:


"Lucky" wrote in message
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"Lucky" wrote in message
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No, YOU go away. I'll say *WHAT I want, *WHEN I want, *WHERE I
want...

I'm sure you will. I'm sure I speak for many in here who have watched your
out of controll rants. I have not blocked you yet. I have faith you are
going to relax and temper your posts.

That's not going to happen. Do some research on the key clown.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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In article ,
"Pilotbutteradio" wrote:


"Lucky" wrote in message
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"T. Early" wrote in message
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"Lucky" wrote in message
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No, YOU go away. I'll say *WHAT I want, *WHEN I want, *WHERE I
want...

I'm sure you will. I'm sure I speak for many in here who have watched
your
out of controll rants. I have not blocked you yet. I have faith you are
going to relax and temper your posts.

That's not going to happen. Do some research on the key clown.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Go chase a Chupacabra. I think you and you family believe in things like
that am I not right?
How's the medication for your emotional
problems working out? You know, the anti- depressants that you need to stay
"normal"...

Lucky

In article 3Sadd.26429$z96.25871@clgrps12,
m II wrote:
clifto wrote:


I bet if Cheney were in the medical business, the supplier who was found
to be failing basic standards would still have failed the basic standards,
and there'd still be a shortage of vaccine.

Perhaps, but these flu outbreaks seem to have a fairly regular cycle of
recurrence. Why treat each and every one like it's never happened
before? The idea of inventories and stockpiles has been a round for a
while now.

One good outbreak and there is a potential for thousands of deaths.


Every year the flu strain is different and they have to cook up a
custom vaccine and make millions of doses, which is still done with
chicken eggs. Getting the eggs is one of the big problems.

Flu Vaccine policy is a mater of national importance; In 1918 tens of
millions of people died in the outbreak. Google it for yourself to
read about it. If we don't get it right, each and every year, a
million people could die.

As early as May 2001 the Bush administration has been getting reports
that indicate there were probelms with the vaccine supply and that
there were 3 factories and the loss of one could create serious
shortages. There have been shortages in 2002, 2003, and now 2004.
Americans have died becasue of this.


Here's the GAO report:

Title: FLU VACCINE Supply Problems Heighten Need to Ensure Access for
High-Risk People

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d01624.pdf

Also;

http://defazio.house.gov/051501HCRelease.shtml

GAO REPORT SHOWS FLU VACCINE PRICE GOUGING AND FAILED EMERGENCY
RESPONSE SYSTEM

The GAO reported that, "Because supply was so limited during the
usual vaccination period, distributors and others who had supplies
of the vaccine had the ability - and the economic incentive - to
sell their supplies to the highest bidder during this time rather
than filling lower-priced orders they had already received."




Kerry for President No more bushes
More Education Less Invasion
Kerry Shoots Back.... Where was George ?

Cheney says if we elect Kerry we will be attacked again;
Well, We were attacked when Bush was President,
Why give him a second chance ?

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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
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In article ,
clifto wrote:
m II wrote:
clifto wrote:
I bet that would be the case even if Cheney owned the supplier, since
they were shut down in the UK and not here.

Single sourced ANYTHING is a bad idea. You pay too much if there's no
competition. Are there no other makers of the vaccine ANYWHERE?

Hillary drove them out of business. Though she failed to pass HillaryCare,
she did manage to get a bill through that made the US Gov't the primary
consumer of vaccines; she didn't get any more children vaccinated, but
she did manage to drive the price of vaccines down so far that all but
two US manufacturers quit trying to make them.


In1996 Law was passed to protect vaccine manufacturers. I'l told
but can't give a citation that a stronger bill is sitting on Bush's desk
right now and he refuses to sign it.

http://hippo.findlaw.com/hippovac.html

The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program created a
no-fault compensation program for those injured by childhood
vaccines. By providing a standardized method to compensate
injured persons, the Act attempts to balance vaccine safety
and availability. It is funded by an excise tax on vaccines.

All the anti-lawyer verbaiage comming from Bush is just a bone to
Frist (R Tenn) since his family owns HCA, one of the biggest hospital
chain owners in the country. HCA has paid the Feds something like
600Million bucks to pay back for medicare fraud and damages.

http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmart...lumb_2003.html


The GAO reports that medical lawsuits are about 1% on national health
costs, and Kerry has proposals to cut that in half without limiting
people that have reallly been harmed to get recourse.


Kerry for President No more bushes
More Education Less Invasion
Kerry Shoots Back.... Where was George ?

Cheney says if we elect Kerry we will be attacked again;
Well, We were attacked when Bush was President,
Why give him a second chance ?

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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
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-=jd=- wrote:

A pharma manager explained the research and development cycle to me like
this: You can put 10 highly-motivated and dedicated women on the job and
see to their every want, need and desire... but it's still going to take
about 9-months to get a baby. Some things will not be hurried despite all
your efforts.

I like that. looks like I mixed up T cells with Stem cells in the
previous post.



mike.. who should have been banned from the school labs BEFORE that
nasty explosion. They never told us fermentation causes unvented glass
bottles to blow up in the back corner of the storage closet..