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Old October 25th 04, 11:22 PM
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two bit?


I can't tell? Is he for or against it?

P.S. I've never seen a 25c ham.


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Old October 25th 04, 11:35 PM
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Brian Hill wrote:

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two bit?


I can't tell? Is he for or against it?

P.S. I've never seen a 25c ham.


I think those may have been available in a can at the $ Store.

dxAce
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Old October 25th 04, 11:28 PM
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Richard wrote:

Well I doubt its bull****, these are the "big guns" talking not some two

bit
ham


two bit?



I can't tell? Is he for or against it?

P.S. I've never seen a 25c ham.


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Old October 26th 04, 11:39 AM
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From: "dxAce"

Richard wrote:


Well I doubt its bull****, these are the "big guns" talking not some two

bit
ham


two bit?


Binary..

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Old October 26th 04, 12:41 AM
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(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )


Bull****... it's just QRM


For you, maybe. However this could rejuvenate these bands for mainstream use,
instead of them being increasingly relegated to small pockets of niche users,
which will eventually see all major broadcasters dumping SW if left unchanged.


Az.




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Old October 26th 04, 12:46 AM
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Aztech wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message ...

(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )


Bull****... it's just QRM


For you, maybe. However this could rejuvenate these bands for mainstream use,
instead of them being increasingly relegated to small pockets of niche users,
which will eventually see all major broadcasters dumping SW if left unchanged.


I rather doubt that the 'mainstream' will ever gravitate back to shortwave.

Keep dreaming though.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Old October 26th 04, 01:12 AM
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Aztech wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )

Bull****... it's just QRM


For you, maybe. However this could rejuvenate these bands for mainstream use,
instead of them being increasingly relegated to small pockets of niche users,
which will eventually see all major broadcasters dumping SW if left
unchanged.


I rather doubt that the 'mainstream' will ever gravitate back to shortwave.


You might be surprised, if they bring out usable sets with combined DAB/DRM that
can pluck signals from Band-III, FM, SW, LW, MW based on station titles totally
abstracted from frequencies, you might find people listening to SW without them
even being aware of it.

Keep dreaming though.


Anything is better than the current nightmare of a dying medium with little else
to offer but propaganda stations from curious parts of the world, firebrands
reciting scripture and others reciting Pi.


Az.


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Aztech wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )

Bull****... it's just QRM

For you, maybe. However this could rejuvenate these bands for mainstream use,
instead of them being increasingly relegated to small pockets of niche users,
which will eventually see all major broadcasters dumping SW if left
unchanged.


I rather doubt that the 'mainstream' will ever gravitate back to shortwave.


You might be surprised, if they bring out usable sets with combined DAB/DRM that
can pluck signals from Band-III, FM, SW, LW, MW based on station titles totally
abstracted from frequencies, you might find people listening to SW without them
even being aware of it.

Keep dreaming though.


Anything is better than the current nightmare of a dying medium with little else
to offer but propaganda stations from curious parts of the world, firebrands
reciting scripture and others reciting Pi.


And you think that with DRM you'll get something better?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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In article ,
"Aztech" wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )


Bull****... it's just QRM


For you, maybe.


Snip

For me too.

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Old October 26th 04, 12:54 AM
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Mike Terry wrote:

Monday, 25 October 2004

"Digital short-wave will revolutionise cross-border broadcasts and will
initiate a world-wide renaissance of radio". This was the opinion of the
Director General of Deutsche Welle, Mr Erik Bettermann, during a panel
discussion at Münchner Medientage.

Bettermann, the head of the German international broadcaster - and
instigator of the event - was not the only one to present an optimistic
prediction of a "Digital Global Radio" development: The other panel
specialists also emphasised the advantages of digitalisation in the
so-called AM range, i.e. short-, medium- and long-wave.

The discussion was chaired by Peter Senger, Director of Distribution at
Deutsche Welle and Chairman of the Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM)
Consortium;
and next to Erik Bettermann, BBC representative Mike Cronk, Dan D'Aversa
of
RTL Group and Phil Laven of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) were
also
participating in the debate.

Senger outlined the advantages of digital short-wave as follows: The
world-wide accepted DRM standard provided an excellent audio-quality
comparable to FM. In addition, the search for frequencies was obsolete,
as
the station identification tuned in to the designated frequency and
automatically switched to the best one. In parallel, it allows for the
sending of accompanying programme information such as text messages.

"On top of everything, digital transmission technology saves a lot of
energy
and costs compared to the analogue one", Senger said. This would open up
enormous opportunities, especially for international broadcasters.

For several years, DW - like many other broadcasters - has noted that
listeners migrated from short-wave to FM or other new distribution
channels
in digital quality, said Bettermann. Deutsche Welle had to stay abreast
of
these changes. "According to test transmissions being operated by
Deutsche
Welle, we anticipate large area coverage in almost FM quality without
interference such as jitters, induced power-noise or fading", the General
Director stated. At the same time, not only stationery indoor reception,
but
also mobile reception in cars and with small portable devices is
possible...(snip).....
Mike Cronk stated that the BBC had invested heavily in DRM and that they
were now developing "a detailed strategy for its initial deployment,
probably into Europe, in 2005". According to Cronk, DRM offered the
unique
combination of wide area short-wave coverage and FM usability and
quality.
As a consequence of using this digital medium, continuous direct delivery
to
the audience avoiding "political or other regulatory obstacles" will be
possible...(snip)....

(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )


Bull****... it's just QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Hmmm - just like IBOC is 'QRM' for FM reception?

SW broadcasting is funded so that listeners can hear programs, not for the
benefit of amateur DXers.

DRM lets the intended listeners actually hear those programs clearly, and
tune them in easily. It sounds like you don't like it cause it sounds like
noise on your (probably highly expensive) set-up, and you like the tuning
process to be as difficult as possible.

Yes, without co-ordination there may be interefernce problems during the
transmition period, but the sooner the world goes DRM the better
international radio broadcastings prospects IMHO.



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