Monday, 25 October 2004

"Digital short-wave will revolutionise cross-border broadcasts and will
initiate a world-wide renaissance of radio". This was the opinion of the
Director General of Deutsche Welle, Mr Erik Bettermann, during a panel
discussion at Münchner Medientage.

Bettermann, the head of the German international broadcaster - and
instigator of the event - was not the only one to present an optimistic
prediction of a "Digital Global Radio" development: The other panel
specialists also emphasised the advantages of digitalisation in the
so-called AM range, i.e. short-, medium- and long-wave.

The discussion was chaired by Peter Senger, Director of Distribution at
Deutsche Welle and Chairman of the Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) Consortium;
and next to Erik Bettermann, BBC representative Mike Cronk, Dan D'Aversa of
RTL Group and Phil Laven of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) were also
participating in the debate.

Senger outlined the advantages of digital short-wave as follows: The
world-wide accepted DRM standard provided an excellent audio-quality
comparable to FM. In addition, the search for frequencies was obsolete, as
the station identification tuned in to the designated frequency and
automatically switched to the best one. In parallel, it allows for the
sending of accompanying programme information such as text messages.

"On top of everything, digital transmission technology saves a lot of energy
and costs compared to the analogue one", Senger said. This would open up
enormous opportunities, especially for international broadcasters.

For several years, DW - like many other broadcasters - has noted that
listeners migrated from short-wave to FM or other new distribution channels
in digital quality, said Bettermann. Deutsche Welle had to stay abreast of
these changes. "According to test transmissions being operated by Deutsche
Welle, we anticipate large area coverage in almost FM quality without
interference such as jitters, induced power-noise or fading", the General
Director stated. At the same time, not only stationery indoor reception, but
also mobile reception in cars and with small portable devices is
possible...(snip).....
Mike Cronk stated that the BBC had invested heavily in DRM and that they
were now developing "a detailed strategy for its initial deployment,
probably into Europe, in 2005". According to Cronk, DRM offered the unique
combination of wide area short-wave coverage and FM usability and quality.
As a consequence of using this digital medium, continuous direct delivery to
the audience avoiding "political or other regulatory obstacles" will be
possible...(snip)....


(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )

Yeah its going to be really interesting to watch developments over the next
few years. Either it will revolutiionize SW or else it will flop like HDTV
did.

I wonder what the implications for SW DXing are - will it be a hobby that
fades into hisotyr like listning to a crystal raifo 100 years ago?

Richad, Warsaw

PS nice to you on a postive note Mike! Stay away from UK amateur radio ng
"Mike Terry" wrote in message
...
Monday, 25 October 2004

"Digital short-wave will revolutionise cross-border broadcasts and will
initiate a world-wide renaissance of radio". This was the opinion of the
Director General of Deutsche Welle, Mr Erik Bettermann, during a panel
discussion at Münchner Medientage.

Bettermann, the head of the German international broadcaster - and
instigator of the event - was not the only one to present an optimistic
prediction of a "Digital Global Radio" development: The other panel
specialists also emphasised the advantages of digitalisation in the
so-called AM range, i.e. short-, medium- and long-wave.

The discussion was chaired by Peter Senger, Director of Distribution at
Deutsche Welle and Chairman of the Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM)
Consortium;
and next to Erik Bettermann, BBC representative Mike Cronk, Dan D'Aversa
of
RTL Group and Phil Laven of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) were
also
participating in the debate.

Senger outlined the advantages of digital short-wave as follows: The
world-wide accepted DRM standard provided an excellent audio-quality
comparable to FM. In addition, the search for frequencies was obsolete, as
the station identification tuned in to the designated frequency and
automatically switched to the best one. In parallel, it allows for the
sending of accompanying programme information such as text messages.

"On top of everything, digital transmission technology saves a lot of
energy
and costs compared to the analogue one", Senger said. This would open up
enormous opportunities, especially for international broadcasters.

For several years, DW - like many other broadcasters - has noted that
listeners migrated from short-wave to FM or other new distribution
channels
in digital quality, said Bettermann. Deutsche Welle had to stay abreast of
these changes. "According to test transmissions being operated by Deutsche
Welle, we anticipate large area coverage in almost FM quality without
interference such as jitters, induced power-noise or fading", the General
Director stated. At the same time, not only stationery indoor reception,
but
also mobile reception in cars and with small portable devices is
possible...(snip).....
Mike Cronk stated that the BBC had invested heavily in DRM and that they
were now developing "a detailed strategy for its initial deployment,
probably into Europe, in 2005". According to Cronk, DRM offered the unique
combination of wide area short-wave coverage and FM usability and quality.
As a consequence of using this digital medium, continuous direct delivery
to
the audience avoiding "political or other regulatory obstacles" will be
possible...(snip)....


(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )

HDTV is G R O W I N G ! ! !

- and I think Digital SWR is well worth the effort involved in trying it out;
Prices will come down once it's widely accepted;


In article , "Richard"
writes:

Subject: "Digital SW will revolutionise cross-border Radio"
From: "Richard"
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:08:56 +0200

Yeah its going to be really interesting to watch developments over the next
few years. Either it will revolutiionize SW or else it will flop like HDTV
did.

I wonder what the implications for SW DXing are - will it be a hobby that
fades into hisotyr like listning to a crystal raifo 100 years ago?

Richad, Warsaw

PS nice to you on a postive note Mike! Stay away from UK amateur radio ng
"Mike Terry" wrote in message
...
Monday, 25 October 2004

"Digital short-wave will revolutionise cross-border broadcasts and will
initiate a world-wide renaissance of radio". This was the opinion of the
Director General of Deutsche Welle, Mr Erik Bettermann, during a panel
discussion at Münchner Medientage.

Bettermann, the head of the German international broadcaster - and
instigator of the event - was not the only one to present an optimistic
prediction of a "Digital Global Radio" development: The other panel
specialists also emphasised the advantages of digitalisation in the
so-called AM range, i.e. short-, medium- and long-wave.

The discussion was chaired by Peter Senger, Director of Distribution at
Deutsche Welle and Chairman of the Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM)
Consortium;
and next to Erik Bettermann, BBC representative Mike Cronk, Dan D'Aversa
of
RTL Group and Phil Laven of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) were
also
participating in the debate.

Senger outlined the advantages of digital short-wave as follows: The
world-wide accepted DRM standard provided an excellent audio-quality
comparable to FM. In addition, the search for frequencies was obsolete, as
the station identification tuned in to the designated frequency and
automatically switched to the best one. In parallel, it allows for the
sending of accompanying programme information such as text messages.

"On top of everything, digital transmission technology saves a lot of
energy
and costs compared to the analogue one", Senger said. This would open up
enormous opportunities, especially for international broadcasters.

For several years, DW - like many other broadcasters - has noted that
listeners migrated from short-wave to FM or other new distribution
channels
in digital quality, said Bettermann. Deutsche Welle had to stay abreast of
these changes. "According to test transmissions being operated by Deutsche
Welle, we anticipate large area coverage in almost FM quality without
interference such as jitters, induced power-noise or fading", the General
Director stated. At the same time, not only stationery indoor reception,
but
also mobile reception in cars and with small portable devices is
possible...(snip).....
Mike Cronk stated that the BBC had invested heavily in DRM and that they
were now developing "a detailed strategy for its initial deployment,
probably into Europe, in 2005". According to Cronk, DRM offered the unique
combination of wide area short-wave coverage and FM usability and quality.
As a consequence of using this digital medium, continuous direct delivery
to
the audience avoiding "political or other regulatory obstacles" will be
possible...(snip)....


(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )

"Richard" wrote in message ...
Yeah its going to be really interesting to watch developments over the next
few years. Either it will revolutiionize SW or else it will flop like HDTV
did.

I wonder what the implications for SW DXing are - will it be a hobby that
fades into hisotyr like listning to a crystal raifo 100 years ago?

If it takes off, wouldn't it open up new DXing possibilities? At least
for those who are interested in new challenges.

With careful signal averaging or processing, it may (for example) be
possible to pull a station ID out of the DRM stream in reception
conditions where even the existence of a station would be doubtful
now.

However, the worries about DRM availability in oppressive regimes etc
are quite justified. Yet, if it means a traveller can receive BBC
World Service etc without hassle across the globe, it's worth having.
At least for travellers who don't take laptops with them, and/or go to
places without internet connections.

Cheers,
David.

David Robinson wrote:

"Richard" wrote in message ...
Yeah its going to be really interesting to watch developments over the next
few years. Either it will revolutiionize SW or else it will flop like HDTV
did.

I wonder what the implications for SW DXing are - will it be a hobby that
fades into hisotyr like listning to a crystal raifo 100 years ago?

If it takes off, wouldn't it open up new DXing possibilities? At least
for those who are interested in new challenges.

With careful signal averaging or processing, it may (for example) be
possible to pull a station ID out of the DRM stream in reception
conditions where even the existence of a station would be doubtful
now.

The power required for efficient DRM transmission kind of precludes it from being 'DX'... And if
you think that governments who can barely keep an ordinary station on shortwave are suddenly
going to embrace DRM and toss a lot of money into it you are sadly mistaken.

Also, it would seem that shortwave is used a lot these days to broadcast information to third
world countries and the folks in those areas probably don't have a lot of funds to put into the
purchase of new receiving sets.

It really seems to me that DRM is being embraced by a certain 'clique' in Europe, and for the
life of me I can't really understand why.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

In article , dxAce wrote:
The power required for efficient DRM transmission kind of precludes it
from being 'DX'... And if
you think that governments who can barely keep an ordinary station on
shortwave are suddenly
going to embrace DRM and toss a lot of money into it you are sadly mistaken.

Also, it would seem that shortwave is used a lot these days to broadcast
information to third
world countries and the folks in those areas probably don't have a lot
of funds to put into the
purchase of new receiving sets.

It really seems to me that DRM is being embraced by a certain 'clique'
in Europe, and for the
life of me I can't really understand why.

I think that using it, like a recent posting about Radio New Zealand,
as a Poor Man's Satelllite for regional program distribution for
rebroadcasting on local stations makes a lot of sense.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

"Richard" wrote in message
...
Yeah its going to be really interesting to watch developments over the
next
few years. Either it will revolutiionize SW or else it will flop like HDTV
did.

I wonder what the implications for SW DXing are - will it be a hobby that
fades into hisotyr like listning to a crystal raifo 100 years ago?

Richad, Warsaw


Getting the international broadcasters off the air would be the best thing
possible for the SW hobby.

There isn't much usable bandwith on SW, at least as compared with VHF and
UHF, and SW propagation is inconsistant and not fully predictable. Most of
the SW utility transmissions have moved to satellites. It's not 1950
anymore, and the SW bands don't have nearly the economic importance they had
then.

But, while SW's quirks make it unattactive for 100% reliable communication,
those quirks make SW a playground for the radio hobbyist. Radio amateurs
have been playing with SW for decades, and there has been a boom in pirate
radio in the last ten years or so. As soon as governments lose interest in
SW, the amateurs and pirates will have SW all to themselves.

Of course, governments can't be entirely disinterested in SW. There is a
need for military and emergency communications on SW. And out of band
interference must be controlled. But I'm convinced hobby broadcasting will
flourish long after the last international broadcaster turns off the switch.

Frank Dresser

Mike Terry wrote:

Monday, 25 October 2004

"Digital short-wave will revolutionise cross-border broadcasts and will
initiate a world-wide renaissance of radio". This was the opinion of the
Director General of Deutsche Welle, Mr Erik Bettermann, during a panel
discussion at Münchner Medientage.

Bettermann, the head of the German international broadcaster - and
instigator of the event - was not the only one to present an optimistic
prediction of a "Digital Global Radio" development: The other panel
specialists also emphasised the advantages of digitalisation in the
so-called AM range, i.e. short-, medium- and long-wave.

The discussion was chaired by Peter Senger, Director of Distribution at
Deutsche Welle and Chairman of the Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) Consortium;
and next to Erik Bettermann, BBC representative Mike Cronk, Dan D'Aversa of
RTL Group and Phil Laven of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) were also
participating in the debate.

Senger outlined the advantages of digital short-wave as follows: The
world-wide accepted DRM standard provided an excellent audio-quality
comparable to FM. In addition, the search for frequencies was obsolete, as
the station identification tuned in to the designated frequency and
automatically switched to the best one. In parallel, it allows for the
sending of accompanying programme information such as text messages.

"On top of everything, digital transmission technology saves a lot of energy
and costs compared to the analogue one", Senger said. This would open up
enormous opportunities, especially for international broadcasters.

For several years, DW - like many other broadcasters - has noted that
listeners migrated from short-wave to FM or other new distribution channels
in digital quality, said Bettermann. Deutsche Welle had to stay abreast of
these changes. "According to test transmissions being operated by Deutsche
Welle, we anticipate large area coverage in almost FM quality without
interference such as jitters, induced power-noise or fading", the General
Director stated. At the same time, not only stationery indoor reception, but
also mobile reception in cars and with small portable devices is
possible...(snip).....
Mike Cronk stated that the BBC had invested heavily in DRM and that they
were now developing "a detailed strategy for its initial deployment,
probably into Europe, in 2005". According to Cronk, DRM offered the unique
combination of wide area short-wave coverage and FM usability and quality.
As a consequence of using this digital medium, continuous direct delivery to
the audience avoiding "political or other regulatory obstacles" will be
possible...(snip)....

(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )

Bull****... it's just QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Well I doubt its bull****, these are the "big guns" talking not some two bit
ham

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Mike Terry wrote:

Monday, 25 October 2004

"Digital short-wave will revolutionise cross-border broadcasts and will
initiate a world-wide renaissance of radio". This was the opinion of the
Director General of Deutsche Welle, Mr Erik Bettermann, during a panel
discussion at Münchner Medientage.

Bettermann, the head of the German international broadcaster - and
instigator of the event - was not the only one to present an optimistic
prediction of a "Digital Global Radio" development: The other panel
specialists also emphasised the advantages of digitalisation in the
so-called AM range, i.e. short-, medium- and long-wave.

The discussion was chaired by Peter Senger, Director of Distribution at
Deutsche Welle and Chairman of the Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM)
Consortium;
and next to Erik Bettermann, BBC representative Mike Cronk, Dan D'Aversa
of
RTL Group and Phil Laven of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) were
also
participating in the debate.

Senger outlined the advantages of digital short-wave as follows: The
world-wide accepted DRM standard provided an excellent audio-quality
comparable to FM. In addition, the search for frequencies was obsolete,
as
the station identification tuned in to the designated frequency and
automatically switched to the best one. In parallel, it allows for the
sending of accompanying programme information such as text messages.

"On top of everything, digital transmission technology saves a lot of
energy
and costs compared to the analogue one", Senger said. This would open up
enormous opportunities, especially for international broadcasters.

For several years, DW - like many other broadcasters - has noted that
listeners migrated from short-wave to FM or other new distribution
channels
in digital quality, said Bettermann. Deutsche Welle had to stay abreast
of
these changes. "According to test transmissions being operated by
Deutsche
Welle, we anticipate large area coverage in almost FM quality without
interference such as jitters, induced power-noise or fading", the
General
Director stated. At the same time, not only stationery indoor reception,
but
also mobile reception in cars and with small portable devices is
possible...(snip).....
Mike Cronk stated that the BBC had invested heavily in DRM and that they
were now developing "a detailed strategy for its initial deployment,
probably into Europe, in 2005". According to Cronk, DRM offered the
unique
combination of wide area short-wave coverage and FM usability and
quality.
As a consequence of using this digital medium, continuous direct
delivery to
the audience avoiding "political or other regulatory obstacles" will be
possible...(snip)....

(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )

Bull****... it's just QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Richard wrote:

Well I doubt its bull****, these are the "big guns" talking not some two bit
ham

two bit?



"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Mike Terry wrote:

Monday, 25 October 2004

"Digital short-wave will revolutionise cross-border broadcasts and will
initiate a world-wide renaissance of radio". This was the opinion of the
Director General of Deutsche Welle, Mr Erik Bettermann, during a panel
discussion at Münchner Medientage.

Bettermann, the head of the German international broadcaster - and
instigator of the event - was not the only one to present an optimistic
prediction of a "Digital Global Radio" development: The other panel
specialists also emphasised the advantages of digitalisation in the
so-called AM range, i.e. short-, medium- and long-wave.

The discussion was chaired by Peter Senger, Director of Distribution at
Deutsche Welle and Chairman of the Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM)
Consortium;
and next to Erik Bettermann, BBC representative Mike Cronk, Dan D'Aversa
of
RTL Group and Phil Laven of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) were
also
participating in the debate.

Senger outlined the advantages of digital short-wave as follows: The
world-wide accepted DRM standard provided an excellent audio-quality
comparable to FM. In addition, the search for frequencies was obsolete,
as
the station identification tuned in to the designated frequency and
automatically switched to the best one. In parallel, it allows for the
sending of accompanying programme information such as text messages.

"On top of everything, digital transmission technology saves a lot of
energy
and costs compared to the analogue one", Senger said. This would open up
enormous opportunities, especially for international broadcasters.

For several years, DW - like many other broadcasters - has noted that
listeners migrated from short-wave to FM or other new distribution
channels
in digital quality, said Bettermann. Deutsche Welle had to stay abreast
of
these changes. "According to test transmissions being operated by
Deutsche
Welle, we anticipate large area coverage in almost FM quality without
interference such as jitters, induced power-noise or fading", the
General
Director stated. At the same time, not only stationery indoor reception,
but
also mobile reception in cars and with small portable devices is
possible...(snip).....
Mike Cronk stated that the BBC had invested heavily in DRM and that they
were now developing "a detailed strategy for its initial deployment,
probably into Europe, in 2005". According to Cronk, DRM offered the
unique
combination of wide area short-wave coverage and FM usability and
quality.
As a consequence of using this digital medium, continuous direct
delivery to
the audience avoiding "political or other regulatory obstacles" will be
possible...(snip)....

(See more in a long article at
http://ukradio.com/news/articles/E69...A75DE7F8A5.asp )

Bull****... it's just QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA